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MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-15 20:32:35
February 20 2007 15:13 GMT
#1
We have all heard the heroic tale of the blind SC player who gave Boxer (even if he was blind for the first few minutes) a legitimate run for his money. But, have you ever wondered just how hard it'd actually be to do?

...How about how fun?

My brothers, a friend of mine, and myself got together over the course of a few nights for one of the funnest experiences of my SC gaming life. No visuals. Relying completely on sound and randomly shouted expletives, we attacked each other, attacked ourselves, attacked thin air...That is, of course, if we could find our units. XD

Retarded? A little. Slow paced? Possibly. But, I restate: With my friends and a thoroughly exercised freedom of speech, I had some of the most fun ever, mostly in the watching of replays after matches were had.

I encourage everyone to try it once, and, of course, commentate upon your own play. O, and shout things that make no sense. That's a must.

Here is a pack of five games we had over those nights: http://download.yousendit.com/FA8D7242365755E4

(If you're going to watch any of them, watch 4-Day When Buildings Float)

It's obvious who I am and yes, I was being extremely retarded on purpose. Things are much more fun that way!

Thanks for reading. If you don't like the idea, eh. Just wanted to share and possibly get some others to experiment a little with the best game ever made.
Think. :)
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 20 2007 15:15 GMT
#2
lmfao

that sounds hilarious
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
February 20 2007 15:18 GMT
#3
sounds quite fun, actually. I'll have to try it sometime.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
chiflutz
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania1025 Posts
February 20 2007 15:35 GMT
#4
That was so funny. 'I EXPAND RIGHT HERE' *splat* hatchery in the middle of nowhere 'ZEALOTS?!'
kt violet Korea (South). July 27 2012 15:54. Posts 23
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-20 15:42:35
February 20 2007 15:42 GMT
#5
On February 21 2007 00:13 MTF wrote:
My brothers, a friend of mine, and myself got together over the course of a few nights for one of the funnest experiences of my SC gaming life. No visuals. Relying completely on sound and randomly shouted expletives, we attacked each other, attacked ourselves, attacked thin air...That is, of course, if we could find our units. XD

Retarded? A little. Slow paced? Possibly. But, I restate: With my friends and a thoroughly exercised freedom of speech, I had some of the most fun ever, mostly in the watching of replays after matches were had.

I encourage everyone to try it once, and, of course, commentate upon your own play. O, and shout things that make no sense. That's a must.


Well written and really funny. Art post.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
February 20 2007 16:28 GMT
#6
I'm happy I've gotten positive replies thus far.

Thank you for the compliment, Testie; you'd find, sadly (or maybe not), that my literacy did not transfer over to my games, though. ^_^
Think. :)
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
February 20 2007 16:45 GMT
#7
I might give it a try, but Id probably start small, like with Blood Bath.
Moonlight Shadow
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
February 20 2007 16:48 GMT
#8
On February 21 2007 01:45 useless wrote:
I might give it a try, but Id probably start small, like with Blood Bath.


That's the map we played for all of our games. :p

Believe me, we had a really hard time navigating ourselves around even such a simple place as that. Hell, we had a hard time finding out which corner our base was even in sometimes. >_<
Think. :)
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
February 20 2007 17:24 GMT
#9
I have no idea how you'd manage to mine. Units make sounds when you select them so you can figure out where they are. How are you supposed to locate your gas and minerals?
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-20 17:50:19
February 20 2007 17:47 GMT
#10
It's easy in theory and with some luckily placed misclicks. Find your workers and hotkey them. Then click around 'til you hit a patch, while hoping like hell that you aren't accidentally scrolling away from your main. Freeze your mouse there, select your hotkey, and right-click them to what you've selected. Hopefully you'll hear the sweet sound of light blue profit coming home. :p

Gas is a much more complicated issue, and is one boundary we haven't pushed. I mean, we've barely pushed the "half-assed noob" boundary here. Gas units (and almost any non-peon unit, really) are out of range for the moment. XD
Think. :)
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
February 20 2007 18:13 GMT
#11
This sounds a little too frustrating for me. I prefer to play SC while blind drunk. I can still technically see, I'm just uncertain of whether or not my eyes/brain are lying to me.

Me and my two room-mates down a bottle of Jim Beam Black Label and then play 3 man FFA's on super old school maps. This is about the only SC I play these days, I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing .
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 20 2007 19:25 GMT
#12
i played 2 games
i couldnt get my units to mine


i gave up
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
February 20 2007 19:36 GMT
#13
On February 21 2007 04:25 travis wrote:
i played 2 games
i couldnt get my units to mine


i gave up


hahahahahahahahaa
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 20 2007 21:05 GMT
#14
A Progamer could own you blind! :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
February 20 2007 21:08 GMT
#15
what if you play a UMS

where the whole map is permamently fog of war?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 20 2007 22:20 GMT
#16
you cant build in fog of war!
ha!
Prophezeiung
Profile Joined May 2006
United States44 Posts
February 20 2007 22:29 GMT
#17
On February 21 2007 07:20 thedeadhaji wrote:
you cant build in fog of war!
ha!
If someone sets the trigger where you hotkey your builder and then build, you can. ( One of MTF's brothers :D )
~ Engel Von Enttäuschen. ~ ~ You refuse to be, so I keep bending until I break ~
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
February 20 2007 22:39 GMT
#18
Someone posted a guide on this some time last year.

I think this is what it said on mining (and on game play):

Don't move your mouse! If you do, you are a dead man. Use your arrow keys to scroll around and keep on left clicking. If you hear the sound that the mineral makes, stop and hotkey the location. Control+select the workers and mine the minerals by using the location hotkey.


Here are some ideas I just thought of.

How to find where you are on blood bath:

Choose one random intermediate direction to spam on your keyboard (up left, up right, down left, down right.) Keep on holding it down. If you can hear your workers mining, you are in that region of the map.

How to 5 pool:

Build one worker. Wait for a few seconds. Select a worker (preferably hotkey the one that you build) and then spam pool until it builds. Wait until it finishes. Morph three larvae into zergling, and attack a corner where you are not. Attack another corner if you do not find them first. (Just key scroll to that corner, and hit the hotkeys for lings _once_. When they get close by, you will be able to hear the sound they make.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
Sun
Profile Joined March 2006
United States551 Posts
February 20 2007 22:46 GMT
#19
pft i'd beat anyone in blind craft t.t
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
February 20 2007 22:52 GMT
#20
if we had any means to prove players dont cheat, i would pay money to play such a game over battle net :D

nice idea, have to try it out the next time me and my buddy decide to play SC lans piss drunk
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
February 21 2007 00:26 GMT
#21
This would be the easiest way. Select your town hall structure and listen for its sound, and hotkey it. Then move directly to the left a bit and drag down-right until you select all your peons. Hotkey them. Press your town hall hotkey twice. Go slowly in all of the eight directions, left-clicking as you go. When you hear the selection sound, you've found a mineral patch. Don't move the mouse, and select your peon hotkey and right-click the mineral patch. If you found a geyser instead, you'll hear a "can't do that" sound, and have to search some more for the minerals. When your peon is completed, hotkey it to a different key and have him become your main builder for everything. Now, scouting and attacking are a completely different obstacle and I don't have a good suggestion for that, but for opening-game economics this system should work just fine.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
February 21 2007 00:41 GMT
#22
TOWN HALL? what happened to you Excal? did you turn to... the dark side?
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Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
February 21 2007 00:50 GMT
#23
i actually tried playing this earlier 1v1 lostemple against a computer, i just kept making zealot out of one gateway... i think i defended pretty well, was never able to attack though
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
February 21 2007 01:23 GMT
#24
On February 21 2007 09:41 IntoTheWow wrote:
TOWN HALL? what happened to you Excal? did you turn to... the dark side?


What? No, "town hall" and "peon" are the neutral terms for CC/Nexus/Hatchery and SCV/Probe/Drone respectively, because typing all that is irritating.
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Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
February 21 2007 01:32 GMT
#25
Scouting? That's funny.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-21 02:02:00
February 21 2007 02:00 GMT
#26
On February 21 2007 10:32 Born)Slippy wrote:
Scouting? That's funny.


Even a blind player has to scout. Attack-move a peon somewhere, when you get the "Your forces are under attack" notice, center on that unit by double-pressing the hotkey and Shift-F2 the map location so you know where the enemy base is. That's when you can start sending out your army.

EDIT: Here's a dilemma though. How would you know, especially if you're playing a same-race matchup, if you're outnumbered? Seems like that would be mostly luck.
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LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
February 21 2007 02:11 GMT
#27
Just 5 pool every game and pray that you'll win.
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
February 21 2007 02:27 GMT
#28
I just played a 4ffa of this and got raped by SCV rush. I'm waiting for the rest to finish. It's a lot more disorienting than I thought it would be. I kept moving my mouse out of the game screen and down into the panel. Everyone got mining pretty quickly, it took me (the last person) about 2 minutes to get started.

I think random should definitely be a rule because Terran SCV rush is far too strong. I was so scared to pull Probe off to defend myself because Id never get them back mining.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 21 2007 02:43 GMT
#29
On February 21 2007 10:23 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2007 09:41 IntoTheWow wrote:
TOWN HALL? what happened to you Excal? did you turn to... the dark side?


What? No, "town hall" and "peon" are the neutral terms for CC/Nexus/Hatchery and SCV/Probe/Drone respectively, because typing all that is irritating.
I used to say those warcraft terms too but people didn't understand me so I switched to "Main Base" and "Worker"
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
February 21 2007 03:01 GMT
#30
On February 21 2007 11:27 Chill wrote:
I kept moving my mouse out of the game screen and down into the panel.


In one of our games, one of us accidentally left the game (the Why Does Zealot Not Go one) through the menu. XD

Think. :)
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-21 03:10:32
February 21 2007 03:09 GMT
#31
To get gas: Hotkey 2 peons in different hotkeys. Spamthe hotkeys for building an extractor with one of the workers around the place and wait till you get it confirmed (ie no error sound), freeze mouse on that spot. When its done get your other hotkeyed worker and tell him to mine gas. Voila!
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
February 21 2007 03:12 GMT
#32
i remember boxer was blinded for like 4 minutes and then he let the real blind kid just doing nothing, and boxer eventually won. that was kinda mean
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
February 21 2007 03:14 GMT
#33
On February 21 2007 12:12 il0seonpurpose wrote:
i remember boxer was blinded for like 4 minutes and then he let the real blind kid just doing nothing, and boxer eventually won. that was kinda mean


I was laughing and kind of wincing at the same time when he quietly walked his rines into the guys mineral line, killed the drones, and then ran back out. : x
Think. :)
Lord.of.Nukes
Profile Joined December 2005
United Kingdom226 Posts
February 21 2007 03:18 GMT
#34
It might be interesting to try to make a map that can be played blind. All resources would be in the same location relative to the start locations, and there could be someway to more easily determine one's location on the map. Perhaps specifically placed neutral buildings or something which produces a sound so one can figure out where their base is on the map without a lot of effort; that might make it a little less fun though?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 21 2007 03:31 GMT
#35
What I want to know, is why the fuck they were typing when they knew none of them could see the monitor?
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 21 2007 03:47 GMT
#36
maybe to be watched on PP text later.

Or this is a lame hoax. Probably the former though.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
February 21 2007 04:01 GMT
#37
Yea its like youre commenting on the game so you can laugh when you watch the replay later. We were using vent when doing it and still typed stuff.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 21 2007 04:09 GMT
#38
On February 21 2007 12:01 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2007 11:27 Chill wrote:
I kept moving my mouse out of the game screen and down into the panel.


In one of our games, one of us accidentally left the game (the Why Does Zealot Not Go one) through the menu. XD




hahahahah wow I never would have thought of that possibility. What are the chances~~~
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-21 05:15:55
February 21 2007 04:11 GMT
#39
On February 21 2007 13:09 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2007 12:01 MTF wrote:
On February 21 2007 11:27 Chill wrote:
I kept moving my mouse out of the game screen and down into the panel.


In one of our games, one of us accidentally left the game (the Why Does Zealot Not Go one) through the menu. XD




hahahahah wow I never would have thought of that possibility. What are the chances~~~


the chances are about the same as for getting to tier 3 tech
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
February 21 2007 05:11 GMT
#40
On February 21 2007 12:31 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
What I want to know, is why the fuck they were typing when they knew none of them could see the monitor?


iNc and Chill are correct. :p

Fun little note: It wasn't until my friend joined in that we thought to turn off the monitors. Until then, we just played with blankets and towels wrapped around our entire heads.

Speaks for our intelligence, eh?
Think. :)
Tarte
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada933 Posts
February 21 2007 05:26 GMT
#41
That'd be funny as hell at a LAN .
L O V E Y O U
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
February 21 2007 05:27 GMT
#42
On February 21 2007 14:11 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2007 12:31 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
What I want to know, is why the fuck they were typing when they knew none of them could see the monitor?


iNc and Chill are correct. :p

Fun little note: It wasn't until my friend joined in that we thought to turn off the monitors. Until then, we just played with blankets and towels wrapped around our entire heads.

Speaks for our intelligence, eh?


ROFL
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3oD[DaMeiN]
Profile Joined September 2009
24 Posts
March 04 2010 22:20 GMT
#43
I know this is kind of an old post.. but if anyone is interested in making this mainstream I know I could make this a possibility.. even make it so if you get stuck you could do a little "ask for help" thing.

Like stated before you could just cloak the whole map in FOW and then make it hotkey your units that you want.

( I was Prophezeiung )

Let me know what you think

(And as a sidenote, I could also make it anti-map hack to make it fair)
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