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Dogo God
Profile Joined December 2015
7 Posts
December 26 2015 22:29 GMT
#21
Wow thank you all for the advice, I am amazed how helpful this community is thank you.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
December 26 2015 23:11 GMT
#22
yeah learn how to cheese. That may be the best way. Become the cheese. When I started, 1 hatch lurk link runby won me many games, but you will learn the limitations of this build and every aspect of it, so you will soon learn to go standard as soon as you meet better players. Cheesing usually gives you an idea what you can do and what you don't, and what the enemy can do so you can more easily fend of cheese.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Dogo God
Profile Joined December 2015
7 Posts
December 26 2015 23:15 GMT
#23
OK thanks.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4140 Posts
December 30 2015 16:26 GMT
#24
Not sure if this was mentioned but patience is the most important when starting out. Also try not to lose your temper and prepare extra keyboards/mouses in case xD
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 16:36:16
December 30 2015 16:33 GMT
#25
On December 26 2015 23:23 Endymion wrote:
i lost 100 games on iccup before i won in 2008

also if you're coming from sc2, D = high diamond low masters, c would be low GM, B high gm, then everything above that level just can't be compared to sc2 because the skill difference is too high


that was true in 2010

2014 C pre-ladder change was more like just masters lotv
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 20:22:23
December 30 2015 20:18 GMT
#26
On December 27 2015 08:11 duke91 wrote:
yeah learn how to cheese. That may be the best way. Become the cheese. When I started, 1 hatch lurk link runby won me many games, but you will learn the limitations of this build and every aspect of it, so you will soon learn to go standard as soon as you meet better players. Cheesing usually gives you an idea what you can do and what you don't, and what the enemy can do so you can more easily fend of cheese.


I wouldn't cheese, in fact I'd learn a few standard build order guides and go for them over and over again in the same matchup on the same map, look at replays after each game. Then download some pro player replays on the same map, watch them on slow speed and see how they do it, rinse and repeat. You will start winning and beating D- players eventually just by doing that, and you lay a foundation to get to D+ and higher as you improve
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 20:37:18
December 30 2015 20:29 GMT
#27
On December 26 2015 09:23 TwiggyWan wrote:
To expand on what was said above, the basics for zerg could be :
1 - use liquipedia to find 1 simple build order per matchup : so 1 against Terran, 1 for Protoss and 1 for Zerg
2 - stick to those build orders for all your games so that your actions become automatic. When you can do your build in auto pilot without thinking you'll be free to think of tactics while playing.
3 - Learn the zerg keyboard shortcuts. Obvious but very important.
4 - Find a control group + camera set up that you're comfortable with. For example you could set your main troops to control group 1, your mutalisks to group 2, your main base to F2, your natural to F3, and so on. Play against a bot and fiddle around until you are comfortable and quick.
5 - Watch your replays. Don't watch your opponent, but focus on the first fuck up you saw yourself doing. Next game, try to avoid it. The more games you play and watch that way the more refined your play will become.

Yeah this QFT
Think BW chart is really helpful to see what hotkeys progamers and your opponent use

Also the guys assume you know already, but play on ICCUP
http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/sc_start.html

And once you lose a few games, only ask for games with other D- players, and when someone seems equally skilled to you, just ask for rematches

Also Protoss is the easiest to learn because of the easy building creation and smaller amounts of expensive units (bud hard to master, PvX is very hard on a lot of maps)
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
December 31 2015 01:15 GMT
#28
The only thing I can say to you is, please, DO NOT CHECK YOUR STATS. You will lose, a lot, for probably a while, and that's fine.

Your "victories" should be, "Hey did I do better this game, or not? Have I corrected the mistakes I had been doing in the past few games? Have I learned something?". If your answers to those questions after your games are "yes", you are on the good path. This game is hard, but it's feasible if you keep learning from your games (each lost has something meaningful for you to learn!)

Enjoy!
J-dawg
Profile Joined July 2015
United States42 Posts
December 31 2015 03:36 GMT
#29
Only if you let it be! Practice all the time play more never surrender!
Thank God for true love and soulmates!!! :)
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-31 09:11:36
December 31 2015 09:10 GMT
#30
Come join team nOn-stOp for practice!

We have players from beginner also to higher levels so you'll find games of all levels

Our channel on iCCup is: Op n.stOp)
See you around!
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