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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
But even though bnet is a business and they are in it to make money, they still need to maintain their communities as happy as possible, so they would be kept faithful and buy blizzard games. How many of us would buy SC2 as of right now? That is some money in the future they would not want to loose. | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On November 25 2006 16:54 azndsh wrote: "The amount of money that Blizzard invests into Starcraft right now (something) is far greater than the amount of money that they get out of it currently (nothing)." That is not true. When something does not make any more money, you won't see it sold for 20 bucks at Wallmart. You think South Korean pro-gaming industry and TV gaming channels does not pay any copyrights for televising their images, or South Korean business don't pay anything when they sell a bag of potate chips with a battlecruiser stamped on them? But even if you are misled into thinking they are not making money with it, or deluded into thinking no money is made with advertising of their own games and others - you still missed only reason I claimed was the main reason they should keep Battle.net healthy: that we stay there, keep gaming their games and of course buying their newer games. | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On November 25 2006 13:51 Physician wrote: Battle.net & its current state And what about WGTour, the other promise for a ladder alternative in Battle.net? Most know already my opinion on the matter. Why on earth would Blizzard delegate their ladder to amateurs that will invariably run it to the ground, "if" it ever manages to occur? They have a track record of endless staff abuse of their own system and their solution to any problem is almost invariably a site ban with years of clan-mentality harassment by their staff of who ever is foolish enough to complain. Bottom line their tract history is running an almost all manner vision ladder in their early years followed by a failed ladder almost as long as Blizzard's own. Sometimes I believe it was the ultimate Blizzard joke on us. They gave us our own chocolate. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Post dedicated to angst battle.boy , PepsiVsCoke. Do not use TL for your hating against WGT ^^ Beside of that a lot going on with Blizz is true, but it is not that none tried and still try to change that | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
On November 25 2006 17:32 Physician wrote: That is not true. When something does not make any more money, you won't see it sold for 20 bucks at Wallmart. You think South Korean pro-gaming industry and TV gaming channels does not pay any copyrights for televising their images, or South Korean business don't pay anything when they sell a bag of potate chips with a battlecruiser stamped on them? But even if you are misled into thinking they are not making money with it, or deluded into thinking no money is made with advertising of their own games and others - you still missed only reason I claimed was the main reason they should keep Battle.net healthy: that we stay there, keep gaming their games and of course buying their newer games. Well, if you seriously think that they should put some more effort into improving and fixing bnet so that it will affect their current business, or that it will entice gamers to buy their new games, perhaps you could use your business prowess to start your own company and stuff. Because making bnet better will influence more people to buy SC2 when it comes out. You know like 90% of TL will have their hands on SC2 two days within its release. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
On November 25 2006 17:39 Ilvy wrote: Do not use TL for your hating against WGT ^^ Beside of that a lot going on with Blizz is true, but it is not that none tried and still try to change that Now he is "using" tl.net to "hate wgtour".. lol.. piss off ilvy. I am glad he posts here. Ordering him to shut up? Seems to me ur proving his point about the staff harrasment. i like every point he made except maybe the one about loving blizzard. | ||
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diverse
Australia72 Posts
We should be content with the fact that they even fixed the hatchery bug and still have Battle.net available to us. I'm suprised Battle.net's SC population was 17%, much more than I thought. | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
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-WGT-Stars-
United States888 Posts
On November 25 2006 17:39 Ilvy wrote: Do not use TL for your hating against WGT ^^ Beside of that a lot going on with Blizz is true, but it is not that none tried and still try to change that Ilvy is right, he's using TL.net to show hatred towards WGTour also. He's trying to use blizzard and slip WGT in there that way everyone can be like I hate WGT to... I'M ON TO YOUR GAME ENTROPY! :O | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
On November 25 2006 17:39 Ilvy wrote: Do not use TL for your hating against WGT ^^ notice the ^^. consider they might've been joking? calm down. black screen of death? i don't really experience that many problems along those lines. mostly just lots of ums, and not enough melee games to be guaranteed joining one before game starts. starcraft might actually have some potential to still sell more. i think. like that game boasting that rs.tasteless did at wcg. maybe if the game was taken more seriously, like harder to cd crack and crap, and had better advertisement and such, it could grow a little in the west as it's been exploded and maintained in korea. like i mean if they could keep picking up new players and guarantee making 20 bucks every time. and plus, is what you say true entropy? starcraft tournaments pay royalties? another reason to promote the game. and maintain or improve it. | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On November 25 2006 18:58 Ilikestarcraft wrote: MY ONLY COMPLAINT IS THE BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH on join game list. I join a game and than i get banned/leave/ or if creator leaves i enter join game. Cant see nothing but black than have to wait a few minutes and again the process repeats. How do we solve this annoying blackness. yes, this happens a hell of a lot for me. very annoying. | ||
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Vin{MBL}
5185 Posts
On November 25 2006 19:14 Myxomatosis wrote: yes, this happens a hell of a lot for me. very annoying. for real i miss pgt :'( i wish i had pgt......~~~~~ come back please pgt!!!~~~ EDIT: even though i was a D noob | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
On November 25 2006 18:58 Ilikestarcraft wrote: MY ONLY COMPLAINT IS THE BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH on join game list. I join a game and than i get banned/leave/ or if creator leaves i enter join game. Cant see nothing but black than have to wait a few minutes and again the process repeats. How do we solve this annoying blackness. Go back into your channel, wait 10 seconds, repeat. | ||
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Ronin
Canada92 Posts
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
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logitech
Canada230 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
And I think Entropy raises a valid point about WGT. Maybe his swipe was slightly unwarranted, but what happened with WGT taking over the ladder and is anything ever going to be done about it? | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On November 25 2006 18:28 diverse wrote: Does SC really matter to Blizzard that much anymore? I mean they must be making millions of WoW, the vast majority of taskforce is dedicated to WoW users and the game. No matter how supportive a company may be for its fans, its first priority will be more money. Let's say SC had absolutely no bugs whatsoever, a working ladder system, et cetera all functioning, causing much more fans to have remained loyal to this point. Thats a (few hundred thousand loyal users + new game buyers) x SC2 and expansion set - development cost and maintenance cost, which probably isn't worth making even with the large amount of users because of WoW, which makes around say $10m USD a month from the subscription fees alone? We should be content with the fact that they even fixed the hatchery bug and still have Battle.net available to us. I'm suprised Battle.net's SC population was 17%, much more than I thought. In marketing there's something called "Brand Loyalty" Of course SC matters because we Loyal fans will continue to buy Blizz games to give it return sales and more. They need us as much as we need them. It's all good ^^ | ||
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