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On June 02 2003 21:45 HovZ wrote: umm reynard how is hacking having raw talent? and if u knew him so well for 4 years u would know that it was proven he use to hack.
and secondly if ur such good buddies why shoudl we believe u wouldnt lie for him? kind of like people did for testie
now that last sentence is just asking for a dramatic reply from Reynard;p
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On June 02 2003 22:32 Rose[Saint] wrote: I think its pretty sad if your over 25+ and you hack T_T seriously.
Why's his age matter? People far older cheat in many things
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On June 03 2003 00:04 Element)FrEaK wrote: Show nested quote +On June 02 2003 22:32 Rose[Saint] wrote: I think its pretty sad if your over 25+ and you hack T_T seriously.
Why's his age matter? People far older cheat in many things
like their taxes=)
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Drone, he was reffering to some newbie in some newbie clan a long time ago... I must admit that I am just playing devils advocate vs many of these arguments... I however do not know whether he hacks or not.
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then go find a new devil to advocate -_-
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On June 02 2003 21:25 RaGe wrote: Oddy did used to hack...Reynard I doubt you know Oddy better than me, I've known him since he was in [ued] even tho he won't admit that he is [UED]ThuG +NvS+Legacy [X]Thug and Marine[c.99] He got caught hacking by LordMarine I think it was. And I am positive that he is [UED]Thug and etc because how many people on BNet do you know that live in NYC but are from Greece, and visit Greece anually.
lol, used to hack. So if he's proved he is low enough to hack in the past, why should he get the benefit of the doubt now, when there is evidence supporting the notion that he hacks.
And reynard, you're just one of those dumb hicks who tries to throw someones race into every situation, in an attempt to gain some sort of self worth, esteem or security :/
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I don't know anything about Oddys case, but I do know that people will go great lenghts to cover for their friends. I have seen this first hand. It does not mean that they are lying for their friends behalf, they can actually believe so blindly their buddy does not hack it's not even funny: I once had many very suspicious replays of a player, and a friend of the accused hacker wanted to see what I had found. Every suspicious thing in those reps was not suspicious according to him. He assured me he was 100% sure his friend does not hack. His friend admitted hack the same day.
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And yes 25 year old hacker is more sad than 15 year old sorry freak. :D
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I used to hack, and people usually give me the benifit of the doubt when I get a lucky scout...
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Norway28781 Posts
~yeah basically when this many people thinks a player hacks and not based on one game but rather on several (more than 10 for me) that usually _does_ mean hack, as most people aren't as paranoid as before.
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Age does matter in hacking because I would assume you would become more mature as years gather up.
personnaly, I could care less if some 14 year old kid is hacking to be the "BEST ON BNET" or to show off to his clanmates or w/e.
But if you're 42, you *MAY* have wife/kids and you hack. That's just pathetic and is a sign to blow your brains in the barn.
Just my opinion tho._.z
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Norway28781 Posts
ya.. I honestly have no problems with 14 year olds hacking. however most people manage to mature and stop before they become much older, and if you're still hacking when you're 18 I'd say you're pretty sad. depends how serious you're doing it though, jello's are fun, and if you're just a player who plays bgh once a month then I have no problems with you hacking either. people who are top 200 wgtour, 16 years old or older and who hack, are however more than welcome to go fuck themselves. :-)
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Good evening everyone and welcome to "The Way It Is" with our host, Conan O' Reynard !
Tonight I will be addressing letters from very interested fans from all over the globe.
Our first letter is from a man they call RaGe:
Mr.RaGe, Haha I was with Oddy back in [UED], [X] and [C.##] oh so long ago. We were clanmates all the way up until recently when he joined uT) // aL-.
Your gracious and generous host, Reynard
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Our second and final letter is from Mr.Anaconda himself, the H to the Izzo, Hov to the Z, the C.O.K.E. (Cross-Over Kracker Extraordinaire) HovZ from Massachusetts!
Mr.HovZ, Let me tell you what raw talent is. Raw talent is naturally being able to grasp the game in a way others can't. Raw talent is being able to progress in an astounding level with nobody helping. Raw talent is something that cannot be gleamed from countless replays. You do not possess this raw talent, as you do not hold sway over any of those pre-requisites.
Calling Oddy a hacker because you lost throws you down into the X17 cesspool. You bash them, you belittle them, yet somehow you are a part of them. Fascinating!
You are a nobody HovZ. I was bashing IntoThe's and [NC]'s in 2v2's with Team RenoB way before you were even a cumstain on your parent's bedsheets.
Talk to anyone six months to a year ago, and nobody knew who you were. You weren't even a blip on the radar until replays came out, then somehow you appeared, talking shit and throwing accusations like you're some gosu who's got his shit on lockdown. "1-800-REPLAYS. Hooked on Replays works for me!"
So watch your replays, eat your Wheaties, brag about the black dick you don't have, but whatever you do, Do Not spit in the face of raw talent. It's more than you'll ever have.
Hope that clarifies what I mean by raw talent.
Your gracious and generous host, Reynard
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Ok folks that's all the time we have for tonight, Thanks for tuning in to this edition of "The Way It Is! with Conan O' Reynard."
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hahahahaha I knew [X]ThuG like 18 months ago did he hack? there was strong evidence for it. :[ ban oddy from wgt!
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Oh shut up you newbies....
From a player like me or Day[9] who play him day in and day out, and Me who obs's almost all his games, he does not hack. If you notice he reacts like x10 slower than the average pro-gamer. His builds are solid, and his macro/micro is very good.
The hack theory started when he jetted to #1 WDTour and no one knew him... thats bullshit i think, stop crying and get over it, the kid is very skilled and you'll never find anything against him.
This thread proves how many jealous people there are in the community~
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On June 03 2003 00:40 Dirk wrote: And reynard, you're just one of those dumb hicks who tries to throw someones race into every situation, in an attempt to gain some sort of self worth, esteem or security :/
Yeah really, racism is so degrading...it should never be allowed in any form of formal argument.
With that being said, Dirk...wat up mah niggah? We representin dis shit fo sheezy yo~ Brutha, jes the utha day dis trick ass fool wusnt givin me mah props, nigga I whipped out mah glock fastah den u can say rodney king and busted a cap in his bitch ass. we should go rob a liquer store now or sumthin dawg.
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Hahaha thats hilarious, I didn't know that [x]Thug and Marine[99.c] were some of his akas. Do you know, I've only ever been convinced an opponent hacked against me three times in my life, and on of those times was against [x]Thug when he blantantly blocked a reaver drop with no scouting 3 times in one game, and another time was against Marine[99.c] when he scourged 2 shuttles and 2 sairs blindly while they were sitting in a random position on the map on 2 separate occasions.
It all makes sense that it would be the same person =p
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Yeah he also wraithed 5 of my shuttles en route to his undefended base, allied mined me 6 times, tanked my expo's as soon as they finished warping and nuked my probes as they were transferring to my last and final expo. All in one game.
GG.
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btw both of those games were rematches in which I won the first one, and he trash talked me, and I trash talked back, and he confidently predicted victory over my 'newbie ass', invited several obbas to come watch, and proceeded to win with numerous suspect plays in addition to the blantantly obvious hacking I stated above.
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