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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 01 2013 08:48 GMT
#101
awww, despite my sick Bisu antifan hate, this interview actually made me feel some empathy for him

a pro-scene without Bisu just feels weird after all these years; sure I didn't like him as much as Reach or Yellow or Nada or Boxer, but a quarter of TBLS being gone is just... strange.

Anyway, luckily for Bisu he still has tons of fans who will watch him play BW, so maybe he can once again taste some of the joy he once experienced
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 08:52:12
October 01 2013 08:51 GMT
#102
On October 01 2013 17:43 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 17:32 TehRei wrote:
Reading this was both depressing and uplifting in a way...

This sentence though: "At first Bisu thought fans might come back slowly, but one day he realized they left for good." was extremely painful to read. I'm glad the interview ended on a hopeful and slightly more positive note than that. Best of luck to him, and I hope to see him in some SSL's soon!

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Slightly off-topic, but the SoSPA leagues could really use a solid protoss like Bisu. Sure, there are plenty of good players in the SSL/SRT's, but at the end of the day, the big contenders for 1st place will always be Killer and Sea. Throw Bisu into the mix, and those leagues suddenly get a lot more interesting, assuming Bisu is in decent shape.
That's also why I'm not terribly upset about Bisu wanting to practice for a bit before trying his hand at the "Amateur" BW-leagues. When he's in shape, with eyes on the gold, it will have been worth the wait -- I promise!

Jangbi's probably going to be competing in them too, along with BeSt. We need some Protoss killers like KT_Mind to come back. Good thing he has too ;D

I don't think Best is competing anymore, he said he'd be in the military sometime late Sept, it's Oct now.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
October 01 2013 09:40 GMT
#103
T_T This is really sad, I can sympathise with Bisu's situation. Nobody will enjoy dropping from an elite to a mediocore competitor. I wish him all the best, such a shame I will never see him at the top of SC2 and winning titles but I'll always cherish the great memories of him in BW.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 01 2013 10:00 GMT
#104
So, with some of the fan favorites returning to bw, what are the chances that bw becomes bigger again in Korea?
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 01 2013 10:21 GMT
#105
On October 01 2013 19:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
So, with some of the fan favorites returning to bw, what are the chances that bw becomes bigger again in Korea?


If things keep going back to where it is (old bw pros) coming back to the scene and there is an interest to restart small tournaments like the msl then I can see bw returning small but not big not in a sense like it will be that big like it used to be when it was at highest popularity.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Tru_m4n
Profile Joined September 2009
162 Posts
October 01 2013 10:59 GMT
#106
Really sad interview. I already dislike Blizzard and Kespa (although not as much as Blizzard) for what they have done, and reading this interview is like throwing more wood onto the fire. Glad to see that there is a pro gamer who is honest about what he thinks of SC2. I hope to see more pro gamers who follow Bisu, Killer and the others because BW is so much more entertaining to watch.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#107
Thanks for the translation.
The heart's eternal vow
MiQ
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada312 Posts
October 01 2013 14:15 GMT
#108
The only reason I still watch SC2 is when Flash plays and recently its been quite depressing. I honestly hope he retires at this point so I can come back full time to BW!
Tons of damage
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
October 01 2013 14:29 GMT
#109
Looks like mods don't ban people trashing sc2 or wishing pros to retire so they can go back to bw. It's also cool to laugh at sc2 and call it a dead game. I didn't know this kind of ill wishing was tolerated in this community.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
October 01 2013 14:46 GMT
#110
its not ill wishing. its speaking the truth. when bisu says first hand that he is saddened by a non existant fan base in korea, you know sc2 is a failed game.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 14:48:55
October 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#111
On October 01 2013 23:29 herMan wrote:
Looks like mods don't ban people trashing sc2 or wishing pros to retire so they can go back to bw. It's also cool to laugh at sc2 and call it a dead game. I didn't know this kind of ill wishing was tolerated in this community.

Well, wishing pros to retire isn't exactly ill wishing when that way they get to do what they want to do(assuming they really don't like playing sc2 professionally anymore like Bisu is saying) and get more from donations, compared to the slave life of doing something they don't like 24/7 for little pay. Wishing them not to retire is ill wishing.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 01 2013 14:51 GMT
#112
On October 01 2013 19:21 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 19:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
So, with some of the fan favorites returning to bw, what are the chances that bw becomes bigger again in Korea?


If things keep going back to where it is (old bw pros) coming back to the scene and there is an interest to restart small tournaments like the msl then I can see bw returning small but not big not in a sense like it will be that big like it used to be when it was at highest popularity.


Why do you call the MSL small?
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
October 01 2013 15:20 GMT
#113
On October 01 2013 23:51 fabiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 19:21 Sawamura wrote:
On October 01 2013 19:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
So, with some of the fan favorites returning to bw, what are the chances that bw becomes bigger again in Korea?


If things keep going back to where it is (old bw pros) coming back to the scene and there is an interest to restart small tournaments like the msl then I can see bw returning small but not big not in a sense like it will be that big like it used to be when it was at highest popularity.


Why do you call the MSL small?


yeah .. GOM would be a better comparison. I forgot what the league was called. It's the league that most proteams declined to play their tournaments to focus on other leagues. That league where we saw Idra played I think.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
October 01 2013 15:37 GMT
#114
On October 01 2013 23:46 evilfatsh1t wrote:
its not ill wishing. its speaking the truth. when bisu says first hand that he is saddened by a non existant fan base in korea, you know sc2 is a failed game.


It's not a failure if it isn't as huge as broodwar was at its peak. Starcraft 2 is big globally but just not at the level BW was in Korea. MOBA is the next big thing, resulting in Proleague shifting towards LoL more.

Most of the people wanting someone to retire is for selfish reasons (wanting them to play bw again), not because they are heartbroken how they suffer from playing this rotten ridiculous game called sc2.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
October 01 2013 15:47 GMT
#115
On October 02 2013 00:20 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:51 fabiano wrote:
On October 01 2013 19:21 Sawamura wrote:
On October 01 2013 19:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
So, with some of the fan favorites returning to bw, what are the chances that bw becomes bigger again in Korea?


If things keep going back to where it is (old bw pros) coming back to the scene and there is an interest to restart small tournaments like the msl then I can see bw returning small but not big not in a sense like it will be that big like it used to be when it was at highest popularity.


Why do you call the MSL small?


yeah .. GOM would be a better comparison. I forgot what the league was called. It's the league that most proteams declined to play their tournaments to focus on other leagues. That league where we saw Idra played I think.

Gom Classic Seasons 1-3
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
October 01 2013 15:49 GMT
#116
On October 02 2013 00:37 herMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:46 evilfatsh1t wrote:
its not ill wishing. its speaking the truth. when bisu says first hand that he is saddened by a non existant fan base in korea, you know sc2 is a failed game.


It's not a failure if it isn't as huge as broodwar was at its peak. Starcraft 2 is big globally but just not at the level BW was in Korea. MOBA is the next big thing, resulting in Proleague shifting towards LoL more.

Most of the people wanting someone to retire is for selfish reasons (wanting them to play bw again), not because they are heartbroken how they suffer from playing this rotten ridiculous game called sc2.


We don't like it when our beloved player plays a game they don't like.
We don't like it when we know they've worked so hard to be on the A-team just to play a sequel when the fans that support the scene doesn't like.
We don't like it when they're being forced to play a game they didn't have passion for it.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25010 Posts
October 01 2013 17:07 GMT
#117
So sad

Incidentally, Bisu was streaming BW? :O Anybody got links to the VODs?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BtBEviL
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil35 Posts
October 01 2013 17:07 GMT
#118
Warn me Ban me do anything but I have to say:
"Starcraft 2 is a terrible game".
We all knew this day was coming. But I don't blame blizzard(well them too). I blame the people for playing sc2 and thinking the game is gonna get better. 95% of people switched to sc2 and left brood war because the pro players switched too but the pro's is about the money, but we amateurs is about the fun and sc2 is no fun.

I forget how many times I dreamed to go to korea and meet bisu or to go to watch a proleague match. I think I never hated a game so much like sc2.

I can only dream people backing to bw and ogn and the teams switching back to bw to.

And I'm very happy with bisu decision.

User was temp banned for this post.
MBC Fighting, Stork Fan, Nal_Ra fan, Bisu Fan, Shuttle Fan
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 01 2013 17:15 GMT
#119
On October 02 2013 02:07 Wombat_NI wrote:
So sad

Incidentally, Bisu was streaming BW? :O Anybody got links to the VODs?

all there is atm. he's streaming right now
+ Show Spoiler [fpvods] +
27. 9. FPVOD (Z)Bisu vs (P)Larva on Fighting Spirit
27. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Terror on Fighting Spirit
[image loading]28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Sea Set 1 on Fighting Spirit
[image loading]28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Sea Set 2 on Fighting Spirit
[image loading]28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Sea Set 3 on Fighting Spirit
[image loading]28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Sea Set 4 on Fighting Spirit
[image loading]28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Sea Set 5 on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs nto'wanzzu on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Snail on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs bestgamer Set 1 on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs bestgamer Set 2 on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs bestgamer Set 3 on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Kwanro on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Kwanro on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Shinee on Fighting Spirit
28. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (P)Lazy on Fighting Spirit
29. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Beast Set 1 on Fighting Spirit
29. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Beast Set 2 on Fighting Spirit
29. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Beast Set 3 on Fighting Spirit
29. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Beast Set 4 on Fighting Spirit
29. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (P)Shuttle on Fighting Spirit
29. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Ample on Fighting Spirit
29. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Mong Set 1 on Fighting Spirit
29. 9. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Mong Set 2 on Fighting Spirit (REPVOD)
1. 10. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)sSak on Fighting Spirit
1. 10. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Killer Set 1 on Fighting Spirit
1. 10. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Killer Set 2 on Fighting Spirit
1. 10. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (Z)Killer Set 3 on Fighting Spirit (REPVOD)
1. 10. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (T)Sea on Fighting Spirit (REPVOD)
1. 10. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (P)Shuttle Set 1 on Fighting Spirit
1. 10. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (P)Shuttle Set 2 on Fighting Spirit
1. 10. FPVOD (P)Bisu vs (P)Shuttle Set 3 on Fighting Spirit
En Taro Violet
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 17:16:28
October 01 2013 17:15 GMT
#120
On October 02 2013 00:37 herMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 23:46 evilfatsh1t wrote:
its not ill wishing. its speaking the truth. when bisu says first hand that he is saddened by a non existant fan base in korea, you know sc2 is a failed game.


It's not a failure if it isn't as huge as broodwar was at its peak. Starcraft 2 is big globally but just not at the level BW was in Korea. MOBA is the next big thing, resulting in Proleague shifting towards LoL more.

Most of the people wanting someone to retire is for selfish reasons (wanting them to play bw again), not because they are heartbroken how they suffer from playing this rotten ridiculous game called sc2.


Considering the boost Starcrap2 got by killing BW and devouring its carcass, robbing its infrastructure, i would call it a failure, or at least a disappointment to most every1. I don't know why people think otherwise, but obviously people who loved BW hoped for nothing more than SC2 to be good. Well it wasn't.

U say "SC2 is big globally", but going from my modest sample size: I used to have loads of friends playing SC2, every single one of them stopped, 2 bought HotS for the Campaign. 100% of the people i know quit playing it, rather quickly too. So there.
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