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United States10328 Posts
 a pro-scene without Bisu just feels weird after all these years; sure I didn't like him as much as Reach or Yellow or Nada or Boxer, but a quarter of TBLS being gone is just... strange. Anyway, luckily for Bisu he still has tons of fans who will watch him play BW, so maybe he can once again taste some of the joy he once experienced  | ||
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On October 01 2013 17:43 Birdie wrote: Jangbi's probably going to be competing in them too, along with BeSt. We need some Protoss killers like KT_Mind to come back. Good thing he has too ;D I don't think Best is competing anymore, he said he'd be in the military sometime late Sept, it's Oct now. | ||
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Khai
Australia553 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On October 01 2013 19:00 JustPassingBy wrote: So, with some of the fan favorites returning to bw, what are the chances that bw becomes bigger again in Korea? If things keep going back to where it is (old bw pros) coming back to the scene and there is an interest to restart small tournaments like the msl then I can see bw returning small but not big not in a sense like it will be that big like it used to be when it was at highest popularity. | ||
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Tru_m4n
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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MiQ
Canada312 Posts
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8884 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:29 herMan wrote: Looks like mods don't ban people trashing sc2 or wishing pros to retire so they can go back to bw. It's also cool to laugh at sc2 and call it a dead game. I didn't know this kind of ill wishing was tolerated in this community. Well, wishing pros to retire isn't exactly ill wishing when that way they get to do what they want to do(assuming they really don't like playing sc2 professionally anymore like Bisu is saying) and get more from donations, compared to the slave life of doing something they don't like 24/7 for little pay. Wishing them not to retire is ill wishing. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On October 01 2013 19:21 Sawamura wrote: If things keep going back to where it is (old bw pros) coming back to the scene and there is an interest to restart small tournaments like the msl then I can see bw returning small but not big not in a sense like it will be that big like it used to be when it was at highest popularity. Why do you call the MSL small?  | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
yeah .. GOM would be a better comparison. I forgot what the league was called. It's the league that most proteams declined to play their tournaments to focus on other leagues. That league where we saw Idra played I think. | ||
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:46 evilfatsh1t wrote: its not ill wishing. its speaking the truth. when bisu says first hand that he is saddened by a non existant fan base in korea, you know sc2 is a failed game. It's not a failure if it isn't as huge as broodwar was at its peak. Starcraft 2 is big globally but just not at the level BW was in Korea. MOBA is the next big thing, resulting in Proleague shifting towards LoL more. Most of the people wanting someone to retire is for selfish reasons (wanting them to play bw again), not because they are heartbroken how they suffer from playing this rotten ridiculous game called sc2. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:20 shaftofpleasure wrote: yeah .. GOM would be a better comparison. I forgot what the league was called. It's the league that most proteams declined to play their tournaments to focus on other leagues. That league where we saw Idra played I think. Gom Classic Seasons 1-3 | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:37 herMan wrote: It's not a failure if it isn't as huge as broodwar was at its peak. Starcraft 2 is big globally but just not at the level BW was in Korea. MOBA is the next big thing, resulting in Proleague shifting towards LoL more. Most of the people wanting someone to retire is for selfish reasons (wanting them to play bw again), not because they are heartbroken how they suffer from playing this rotten ridiculous game called sc2. We don't like it when our beloved player plays a game they don't like. We don't like it when we know they've worked so hard to be on the A-team just to play a sequel when the fans that support the scene doesn't like. We don't like it when they're being forced to play a game they didn't have passion for it. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27026 Posts
Incidentally, Bisu was streaming BW? :O Anybody got links to the VODs? | ||
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BtBEviL
Brazil35 Posts
"Starcraft 2 is a terrible game". We all knew this day was coming. But I don't blame blizzard(well them too). I blame the people for playing sc2 and thinking the game is gonna get better. 95% of people switched to sc2 and left brood war because the pro players switched too but the pro's is about the money, but we amateurs is about the fun and sc2 is no fun. I forget how many times I dreamed to go to korea and meet bisu or to go to watch a proleague match. I think I never hated a game so much like sc2. I can only dream people backing to bw and ogn and the teams switching back to bw to. And I'm very happy with bisu decision. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On October 02 2013 02:07 Wombat_NI wrote: So sad Incidentally, Bisu was streaming BW? :O Anybody got links to the VODs? all there is atm. he's streaming right now + Show Spoiler [fpvods] + 27. 9. FPVOD  Bisu vs  Larva on Fighting Spirit27. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Terror on Fighting Spirit![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/forum/star.gif) 28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs  Sea Set 1 on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Sea Set 2 on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Sea Set 3 on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Sea Set 4 on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Sea Set 5 on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs  nto'wanzzu on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Snail on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs  bestgamer Set 1 on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs bestgamer Set 2 on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs bestgamer Set 3 on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Kwanro on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Kwanro on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Shinee on Fighting Spirit28. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Lazy on Fighting Spirit29. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Beast Set 1 on Fighting Spirit29. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Beast Set 2 on Fighting Spirit29. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Beast Set 3 on Fighting Spirit29. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Beast Set 4 on Fighting Spirit29. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Shuttle on Fighting Spirit29. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Ample on Fighting Spirit29. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Mong Set 1 on Fighting Spirit29. 9. FPVOD Bisu vs Mong Set 2 on Fighting Spirit (REPVOD)1. 10. FPVOD Bisu vs sSak on Fighting Spirit1. 10. FPVOD Bisu vs Killer Set 1 on Fighting Spirit1. 10. FPVOD Bisu vs Killer Set 2 on Fighting Spirit1. 10. FPVOD Bisu vs Killer Set 3 on Fighting Spirit (REPVOD)1. 10. FPVOD Bisu vs Sea on Fighting Spirit (REPVOD)1. 10. FPVOD Bisu vs Shuttle Set 1 on Fighting Spirit1. 10. FPVOD Bisu vs Shuttle Set 2 on Fighting Spirit1. 10. FPVOD Bisu vs Shuttle Set 3 on Fighting Spirit | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:37 herMan wrote: It's not a failure if it isn't as huge as broodwar was at its peak. Starcraft 2 is big globally but just not at the level BW was in Korea. MOBA is the next big thing, resulting in Proleague shifting towards LoL more. Most of the people wanting someone to retire is for selfish reasons (wanting them to play bw again), not because they are heartbroken how they suffer from playing this rotten ridiculous game called sc2. Considering the boost Starcrap2 got by killing BW and devouring its carcass, robbing its infrastructure, i would call it a failure, or at least a disappointment to most every1. I don't know why people think otherwise, but obviously people who loved BW hoped for nothing more than SC2 to be good. Well it wasn't. U say "SC2 is big globally", but going from my modest sample size: I used to have loads of friends playing SC2, every single one of them stopped, 2 bought HotS for the Campaign. 100% of the people i know quit playing it, rather quickly too. So there. | ||
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