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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-08 09:40:27
October 08 2013 09:39 GMT
#861
On October 08 2013 17:00 thezanursic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 08 2013 16:06 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
I think the pertinent point isn't whether they got fielded in HOTS, it's that who cares how they performed in sc2? (increasingly, not even the sc2 fanbase seems to be the answer)

SC2 and BW are just completely different games, despite the incidental correlation in names, their performance in HOTS pretty much has no relevance to how good they each were, or are, in BW.

While there is a genuine argument that Jangbi might well have been better at the end of the professional BW scene with his 2 OSL wins, it's not like Bisu stopped playing, he was still performing fine in the proleague, Jangbi unarguably had the better starleague performance near the end, but looking at the quality of their actual gameplay, Jangbi had better PvT, Bisu had better PvZ. At the end of the day people just value PvZ more because it's the 'hard matchup' for protoss.

The argument that Jangbi was in BW longer is just nonsense, Bisu's last official BW game was actually after Jangbi's last official game, they switched out of BW at the same time, eg when Kespa switched over. Bisu's notoriety, and career, started long before Jangbi's, he's been in BW considerably longer.

I think your just taking this whole thing a bit seriously tbh, Bisudagger is a well known Bisu fanboy, and I was just pointing out that SC2 is completely irrelevant in a tongue and cheek way.



I think that you and the majority of people posting here are missing the point. Bisu is ranked more highly because he was more consistent (2011 anyone?). While I can't say that I've been around during the time when he actually won starleagues. I can say that looking at the statistics and the last SPL and a half he was obviously the one who you could actually depend on beating a lesser player while Jangbi occasionally brought out a flash of brilliance and beat basically anyone, but overall Jangbi seemed to have a lot of ups and downs in his career while Bisu never faltered from being the most consistent protoss.

Also people seem to forget that there were only 2 OSLs in 2011 and 2012 and Bisu seemed to in top shape these last two years. (Having a FlaSh level winrate for the last two years is no joke)

74 wins - 26 losses (74.00%)

Jangbi - 56 wins - 42 losses (57.14%) Amm yeah not comparable to Bisu.

If 2011 and 2012 each had 4 to 6 starleagues (MSL and OSL). I think Bisu would have won one, but this is obviously just speculation.


that is like saying leta, sea, soulkey, free, stats or any other a-class proleaguer would have eventually won a starleague if there were 10 more msl/osl. bisu was a PL only player, he didn't have it in him to win another individual championship
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 08 2013 09:47 GMT
#862
yes. Leta wouldve won OSLs and MSLs

one can dream
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
October 08 2013 09:49 GMT
#863
On October 08 2013 18:47 icystorage wrote:
yes. Leta wouldve won OSLs and MSLs

one can dream


dude why isn't bruce leta streaming, he should totally start streaming.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 08 2013 09:51 GMT
#864
those damn shoes man, gotta sell them
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
October 08 2013 09:54 GMT
#865
fuck shoes man, if he dressed up as your waifu and streamed some BW he'd be making more bank than bisu.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
October 08 2013 10:46 GMT
#866
On October 08 2013 18:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
fuck shoes man, if he dressed up as your waifu and streamed some BW he'd be making more bank than bisu.


Cross dressing and Brood War. A deadly combination!
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
October 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#867
On October 08 2013 18:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
fuck shoes man, if he dressed up as your waifu and streamed some BW he'd be making more bank than bisu.


should wear that orange dress too while streaming
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 08 2013 11:38 GMT
#868
we need to reevaluate our sexual preferences
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
October 08 2013 11:39 GMT
#869
On October 08 2013 20:37 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 18:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
fuck shoes man, if he dressed up as your waifu and streamed some BW he'd be making more bank than bisu.


should wear that orange dress too while streaming


thats the dress i'm talking about.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 08 2013 11:48 GMT
#870
Very good game vs sSak just now !
ॐ
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
October 08 2013 11:57 GMT
#871
On October 08 2013 20:48 endy wrote:
Very good game vs sSak just now !


any game where someone beats ssak is a good game for me.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 08 2013 12:02 GMT
#872
On October 08 2013 20:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 20:48 endy wrote:
Very good game vs sSak just now !


any game where someone beats ssak is a good game for me.


rofl come on...

Also Bisu is still running WinXP, just as I do :D
ॐ
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
October 08 2013 12:10 GMT
#873
On October 08 2013 20:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 20:48 endy wrote:
Very good game vs sSak just now !


any game where someone beats ssak is a good game for me.


is the reason for this hate on ssak was because of what he did to flash?
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8842 Posts
October 08 2013 12:14 GMT
#874
was anyone watching sea's stream when bisu was vsing ssak today?
i didnt get to watch on afreeca and i would love to listen to sea obs their game. get a pros perspective on bisu owning ssak 2-1
josephmcjoe
Profile Joined October 2009
United States57 Posts
October 08 2013 12:28 GMT
#875
So awesome to watch BW again. Thanks for the heads up, guys.
"This guy is the Bob Ross of adept shading: a little shade here, a little shade there." -Lambo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
October 08 2013 12:54 GMT
#876
On October 08 2013 21:10 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 20:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 08 2013 20:48 endy wrote:
Very good game vs sSak just now !


any game where someone beats ssak is a good game for me.


is the reason for this hate on ssak was because of what he did to flash?


nah hes just boring compared to every other terran, flash lost because he got cocky.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
October 08 2013 12:56 GMT
#877
holy shit this game between him and Sea was so sick. 43 minutes of pure action
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-08 12:58:08
October 08 2013 12:57 GMT
#878
On October 08 2013 21:56 2Pacalypse- wrote:
holy shit this game between him and Sea was so sick. 43 minutes of pure action


Beat me to it I came here to recommend it. I'm going to be tired today at work, but so worth it!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8842 Posts
October 08 2013 12:58 GMT
#879
yeah that game best pvt ive seen in ages. imagining what it would have been like to have proper casters for this game gives me chills
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
October 08 2013 13:00 GMT
#880
These guys are machines. After a game like that I'd have been okay with them taking at least 5 minutes to recover. I guess that's what years of progaming does for ya.
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