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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
January 13 2020 02:45 GMT
#6441
On January 13 2020 11:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2020 11:12 GGzerG wrote:
On January 12 2020 12:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the community and other orgs have always stepped up when Blizzard have failed us, this is nothing new or anything to be truly upset about, the lack of the pro tour equivalent may be a loss but any form of organic growth from interest(through the current community) will lead to more long term retention.

Well said, the community always comes up with something.

Broadly speaking, is this percentage of health issues causing alternative or non-service common for other Korean men? It seems like many Brood War players either have special accommodations.

I guess there is a selection bias in that anyone who suffered from a medical condition as a child would be more likely to play Brood War than football, but still I'm curious if this kind of accommodation is common outside of pro BW.


Not sure how common it is, but it isnt a secret that StarCraft (and other esports) can abuse the body like wrists, shoulders, and eyes. But there are players who do have genuine prior medical conditions like Hydra's damaged eye, Larva's cancer, and Rain's liver.

The other thing to consider is the vast majority of South Korean citizens do their military service before the age of 21. Conversely, most esports pros do their service as late as possible, often after the age of 25. Being older may (or may not) make them more eligilble for civil service instead being just a grunt (soldier).
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8827 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-13 05:50:43
January 13 2020 05:48 GMT
#6442
On January 13 2020 11:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2020 11:12 GGzerG wrote:
On January 12 2020 12:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the community and other orgs have always stepped up when Blizzard have failed us, this is nothing new or anything to be truly upset about, the lack of the pro tour equivalent may be a loss but any form of organic growth from interest(through the current community) will lead to more long term retention.

Well said, the community always comes up with something.

Broadly speaking, is this percentage of health issues causing alternative or non-service common for other Korean men? It seems like many Brood War players have special accommodations.

I guess there is a selection bias in that anyone who suffered from a medical condition as a child would be more likely to play Brood War than football, but still I'm curious if this kind of accommodation is common outside of pro BW.

are you asking if its common for korean men to be given public service or exemptions when they enlist?
its a small percentage of the population, but not insignificant enough to say its uncommon

On January 13 2020 11:45 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2020 11:16 Jealous wrote:
On January 13 2020 11:12 GGzerG wrote:
On January 12 2020 12:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the community and other orgs have always stepped up when Blizzard have failed us, this is nothing new or anything to be truly upset about, the lack of the pro tour equivalent may be a loss but any form of organic growth from interest(through the current community) will lead to more long term retention.

Well said, the community always comes up with something.

Broadly speaking, is this percentage of health issues causing alternative or non-service common for other Korean men? It seems like many Brood War players either have special accommodations.

I guess there is a selection bias in that anyone who suffered from a medical condition as a child would be more likely to play Brood War than football, but still I'm curious if this kind of accommodation is common outside of pro BW.


Not sure how common it is, but it isnt a secret that StarCraft (and other esports) can abuse the body like wrists, shoulders, and eyes. But there are players who do have genuine prior medical conditions like Hydra's damaged eye, Larva's cancer, and Rain's liver.

The other thing to consider is the vast majority of South Korean citizens do their military service before the age of 21. Conversely, most esports pros do their service as late as possible, often after the age of 25. Being older may (or may not) make them more eligilble for civil service instead being just a grunt (soldier).

being older doesnt give you special treatment during the drafting process. the only way youd get public service due to your age when you should have gotten field duty when you were younger would have been if your physical condition deteriorated significantly during that time. its pretty rare for a man in his early 20s to have health deteriorate that badly though
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10295 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-13 06:08:57
January 13 2020 06:08 GMT
#6443
On January 13 2020 14:48 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2020 11:16 Jealous wrote:
On January 13 2020 11:12 GGzerG wrote:
On January 12 2020 12:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
the community and other orgs have always stepped up when Blizzard have failed us, this is nothing new or anything to be truly upset about, the lack of the pro tour equivalent may be a loss but any form of organic growth from interest(through the current community) will lead to more long term retention.

Well said, the community always comes up with something.

Broadly speaking, is this percentage of health issues causing alternative or non-service common for other Korean men? It seems like many Brood War players have special accommodations.

I guess there is a selection bias in that anyone who suffered from a medical condition as a child would be more likely to play Brood War than football, but still I'm curious if this kind of accommodation is common outside of pro BW.

are you asking if its common for korean men to be given public service or exemptions when they enlist?
its a small percentage of the population, but not insignificant enough to say its uncommon


Yea, and if Brood War players gain these exemptions/public service positions at a disproportionate ratio. As in, if you take 109 BW Progamers and 30 of them have some sort of public service/exemption, while the Korean population at large only has 5 out of 100 or something. That's what it seems like, but again this might be the result of a sort of bias (like availability heuristic, since I can readily name numerous progamers that have had some sort of alternate service so they stick out in my mind better than all of the ones that did not and therefore did not get discussed much on the forums).

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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-13 06:20:19
January 13 2020 06:16 GMT
#6444
The ESports Night afreeca event
14th Jan 2020
7pm KST
http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1

+ Show Spoiler +
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details tba

(P)Bisu vs (T)Flash
(P)Best vs (Z)Action
(Z)soO vs (Z)HoeJJa
(Z)GoRush vs (P)Reach
(T)Canata vs (T)TheMarine
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
January 13 2020 08:05 GMT
#6445
soO ia back to bw again? Or is it both starcrafts?
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
January 13 2020 08:43 GMT
#6446
I think soO is so good that he is able to play SC:BW at highest level despite not really being active.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50643 Posts
January 13 2020 09:15 GMT
#6447
soO and bogus(innovation) have tried to qualify for KSL once before
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
January 13 2020 10:24 GMT
#6448
GoRush vs Reach!
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8546 Posts
January 13 2020 11:14 GMT
#6449
Unbelivable! GoRush, soO, TheMarine and the left-handed Hoejja !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8546 Posts
January 13 2020 17:25 GMT
#6450
hyvaa is streaming !!!!!! Is it new ?!?!?!
Is he the real one ?! He is not playing BW at the moment !

Remember this game:

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19316 Posts
January 13 2020 17:29 GMT
#6451
On January 14 2020 02:25 prosatan wrote:
hyvaa is streaming !!!!!! Is it new ?!?!?!
Is he the real one ?! He is not playing BW at the moment !

Remember this game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe1JJB4BNwc

Isn't it ironic that the zergs who give Flash a hard time were bought by KT?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina244 Posts
January 13 2020 18:08 GMT
#6452
On January 14 2020 02:25 prosatan wrote:
hyvaa is streaming !!!!!! Is it new ?!?!?!
Is he the real one ?! He is not playing BW at the moment !

Remember this game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe1JJB4BNwc


If I were Zerg and would have a win over God dated in the year 2010 I think I could probably die in peace
Standard Queens
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8546 Posts
January 13 2020 18:09 GMT
#6453
Haaaaa

Except for JD and Effort !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6815 Posts
January 14 2020 11:54 GMT
#6454
Soulkey is streaming O_O
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
January 14 2020 14:58 GMT
#6455
On January 14 2020 20:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Soulkey is streaming O_O


Some are allowed stream while they are still doing their service. Same thing happened to Polt streaming SC2. If memory serves Polt was able stream at certain hours on certain days as long as he had permission from his superiors to do so.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8546 Posts
January 16 2020 09:28 GMT
#6456
Yeap , indeed Soulkey

Here we can see 4 games against Storkuu

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 17 2020 10:34 GMT
#6457
Nice game from Artosis in the AfreecaTV Challengers Starleague Season, where he used something unconventional (description in spoiler) + Show Spoiler +
he massed around 12 ghosts




Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1203 Posts
January 17 2020 13:11 GMT
#6458
On January 17 2020 19:34 JieXian wrote:
Nice game from Artosis in the AfreecaTV Challengers Starleague Season, where he used something unconventional (description in spoiler) + Show Spoiler +
he massed around 12 ghosts


https://youtu.be/5DGbJFWSiGU?t=8045


as much shit as we give artosis he can analyze situations and beat off some of the mind games played. good game!
Flash should fear Sacsri
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
January 17 2020 16:55 GMT
#6459
Anyone else need to download brood war entirely today? It says update needed and is downloading 5gb.
Or is my computer fucked up?
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
January 17 2020 18:34 GMT
#6460
http://gamevote.afreecatv.com/?idx=6

An another season of BJ destruction teamleague is going to start soon. There are some pretty intresting teams (Flash and Clam lol).
it's not just a music it's something else
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