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MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
January 28 2020 01:59 GMT
#6481
Anyone know VODs of progamer breaking out of lurker contain at your natural pvz?
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2454 Posts
January 28 2020 04:51 GMT
#6482
On January 28 2020 10:59 MisterBoba wrote:
Anyone know VODs of progamer breaking out of lurker contain at your natural pvz?

This is just about completely useless to you, but if you look through games the Samsung Khan player Great played on Medusa against P, you will find some ZvP lurker+sunken contain games.
The original Bogus fan.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10404 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-28 12:58:22
January 28 2020 12:50 GMT
#6483
On January 28 2020 13:51 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2020 10:59 MisterBoba wrote:
Anyone know VODs of progamer breaking out of lurker contain at your natural pvz?

This is just about completely useless to you, but if you look through games the Samsung Khan player Great played on Medusa against P, you will find some ZvP lurker+sunken contain games.

A lot of ZvP on Sniper Ridge would be that way as well. Probably some 2009-2010 era FS too iirc. It's always hard to remember "game that has x" when x is rarely the highlight of the match.

JangBi vs. Zero on Sniper Ridge has a bust out of someone's main if that's relevant enough for you.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-28 16:05:11
January 28 2020 16:04 GMT
#6484
On January 28 2020 10:59 MisterBoba wrote:
Anyone know VODs of progamer breaking out of lurker contain at your natural pvz?


Push dragons 1st with some templar support (to chase away hydra). Control your observer carefully vs hydra/scourge. Use storm + zealot to kill lurkers (1 storm + 1 zealot hit). Consider sending few zealots on the map/make a shuttle drop at the same time to force zerg to multitask and split some forces (your zealots won't be so important anyway).

And most importantly, avoid getting hard contained on 2 base (like 12+ lurkers with mass hydra and scourge) On 3 base you will usually be able to break out.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 28 2020 17:02 GMT
#6485
Also remember you're racing against a clock, the longer they hold it the more they're going to be able to eat the map and reinforce the contain. You'll have to hit a good timing where you've just gotten the tech you need and you go to start breaking it, which means your success or failure can hinge a lot on how your early game went and if you efficiently got to the units you need to break it. If you were slow to build some tech or your expansion was delayed it might be insurmountable. If you find you can't break contains, you may need to look at indirect things like if you built too many cannons. If everything went right for you in the early game, it should be relatively easy to walk out.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10404 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-29 00:03:24
January 29 2020 00:03 GMT
#6486
On January 29 2020 02:02 Chef wrote:
Also remember you're racing against a clock, the longer they hold it the more they're going to be able to eat the map and reinforce the contain. You'll have to hit a good timing where you've just gotten the tech you need and you go to start breaking it, which means your success or failure can hinge a lot on how your early game went and if you efficiently got to the units you need to break it. If you were slow to build some tech or your expansion was delayed it might be insurmountable. If you find you can't break contains, you may need to look at indirect things like if you built too many cannons. If everything went right for you in the early game, it should be relatively easy to walk out.

Just want to add that supply blocks were one of my biggest impediments when I was first getting contained like 10 years ago. You add a bunch of Gates to bust out and then suddenly you are getting blocked after every macro round. Need to add 1 Pylon for every 3 Gates when you start each macro round, give or take.

I'd also like to add to what kogeT said that you can also do 1 storm + 1 Dragoon shot to kill a Lurker. I find it more reliable than Zealots because of the range but I'm also way worse than him, but at the same time I'm sure OP is too (no offense).
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
January 30 2020 18:33 GMT
#6487
Does anyone know why Bisu hasn’t been streaming this year?
it's not just a music it's something else
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12067 Posts
January 30 2020 22:45 GMT
#6488
I'm looking to find the map downloads from this thread:

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/365459-old-new-maps-by-roseofdream

Can anyone help? I already have Wind and Cloud and Pamir Plateu
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 31 2020 03:30 GMT
#6489
On January 31 2020 07:45 Qikz wrote:
I'm looking to find the map downloads from this thread:

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/365459-old-new-maps-by-roseofdream

Can anyone help? I already have Wind and Cloud and Pamir Plateu


I was hunting them Battle of Salsu and Steel Wall long ago but didn't manage to find them, hope someone has it on his 10+ year old PC which is laying somewhere in basement.
sunbeams are never made like me...
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
January 31 2020 05:40 GMT
#6490
http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1


asl9 is live please add to live events
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12067 Posts
January 31 2020 10:05 GMT
#6491
On January 31 2020 12:30 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 07:45 Qikz wrote:
I'm looking to find the map downloads from this thread:

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/365459-old-new-maps-by-roseofdream

Can anyone help? I already have Wind and Cloud and Pamir Plateu


I was hunting them Battle of Salsu and Steel Wall long ago but didn't manage to find them, hope someone has it on his 10+ year old PC which is laying somewhere in basement.


I got someone to contact Rose of Dream the creator - but he said they were never finished and he doesn't even have them haha.
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
January 31 2020 10:46 GMT
#6492
On January 31 2020 14:40 onlystar wrote:
http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1


asl9 is live please add to live events

What was streamed, some kind of qualifier?
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12067 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-31 12:21:55
January 31 2020 12:21 GMT
#6493
On January 31 2020 19:46 LG)Sabbath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2020 14:40 onlystar wrote:
http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1


asl9 is live please add to live events

What was streamed, some kind of qualifier?


ASL9 Qualifiers Day 1 yeah. https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/555392-asl-season-9-qualifiers?page=last
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
January 31 2020 15:59 GMT
#6494
Was it streamed in english or only in korean?
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina247 Posts
January 31 2020 20:18 GMT
#6495
only korean according to Rapid
Standard Queens
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10102 Posts
January 31 2020 23:36 GMT
#6496
pretty sure we've never had an english cast for qualis
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
February 01 2020 01:07 GMT
#6497
So flash is going to play in ASL9 after all? The wildcard that sharp won was only for rain's spot?
Free Palestine
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8932 Posts
February 01 2020 02:15 GMT
#6498
yes flash has stated he wants to play in asl again.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 01 2020 06:24 GMT
#6499
Did we ever have qualifier streams on the live events sidebar? Not that it would be bad to add it now.
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
February 01 2020 11:43 GMT
#6500
On February 01 2020 11:15 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yes flash has stated he wants to play in asl again.

Do you have a source for this? Not that i am not believe you but I think that this is a profound statement but it hold no reasoning. In Brood war, tight community, it important to give fact and evidence. So why do you not do this if you don't want to dissuade people?

So source?
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