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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19379 Posts
March 14 2019 17:47 GMT
#5481
Straight to DTs for me . Or cannon rush with no forge.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10358 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-14 18:00:59
March 14 2019 18:00 GMT
#5482
Show me the money affects only you, right? A lot of the other cheats affect both players?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
March 14 2019 18:52 GMT
#5483
There is no cow level xD

More on-topic - medieval man, upgraded tier 1 units too good.

4pool with cracklings?
BBS with upgraded marines?
proxy gates with zealot legs?
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 14 2019 19:04 GMT
#5484
Anyone know when EffOrt is leaving for the military?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-14 20:25:25
March 14 2019 20:20 GMT
#5485
I've read in some Twitch chat that Brood War is the third most played game in Korea now, is that true?
I remember it being the fifth most played at the time of Remastered release
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12047 Posts
March 14 2019 21:50 GMT
#5486
Power Overwhelming - I'll take invincibility please.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3157 Posts
March 14 2019 22:01 GMT
#5487
Yay polling is back. I went with black sheep wall. I feel the money cheat would be to easy so I went with black sheep wall. Either one would make your opponent rage though, and rightfully so.
Artosis loves Starcraft
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 16:24:02
March 15 2019 15:20 GMT
#5488
Watching Zero's stream atm and I notice his play is extremely clean. I think his eapm is very close to his apm, compared to players like larva or effort who are a bit on the erratic side. Do you know any other zerg pros who have a very clean way of playing ?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19379 Posts
March 15 2019 16:03 GMT
#5489
On March 16 2019 00:20 ppp87 wrote:
Watching Zero stream atm and I notice his play is extremely clean. I think is eapm is very close to his apm, compared with players like larva or effort who are a bit on the erratic side. Do you know any other zerg pros who have a very clean way of playing ?

I think by.hero has the highest eAPM in ZvP.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
March 15 2019 16:13 GMT
#5490
On March 16 2019 00:20 ppp87 wrote:
Watching Zero stream atm and I notice his play is extremely clean. I think is eapm is very close to his apm, compared with players like larva or effort who are a bit on the erratic side. Do you know any other zerg pros who have a very clean way of playing ?


Bakuryu
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 17 2019 11:35 GMT
#5491
new ability for observer:
personal defense matrix ability

thoughts?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 13:01:40
March 17 2019 13:00 GMT
#5492
I think Soulkey probably has the most efficient screen switching (as in he knows exactly when and where to look, and in which order) out of the current crop of zerg players, which allows him to play faster than what his modest APM figures tends to suggest.

This is what he has in common with Flash and Rain, players with a flow-charty playstyle, who are known for their efficient screen switching. Flash once said that the most important thing in Starcraft is to think of what to do for the upcoming display screen, while carrying out what you should do on the monitor screen currently. I think this sort of philosophy is best represented by Soulkey for the zerg race as of today.

herO does not have a particularly high eAPM, but he does have high APM numbers. I don't think he is in possession of great multi-tasking, but within the zerg-versus-protoss match-up, he does use his high APM figures to produce non-stop while using his massive numbers of hydralisks in unison to beat down the protoss force on the given screen. herO knows how to optimize his drone count and build order, and abuses certain timings while focusing on a single screen to perfect his hydralisk movement and formation.
TL+ Member
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
March 17 2019 17:39 GMT
#5493
--- Nuked ---
Writer
Berby
Profile Joined February 2019
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-21 01:19:21
March 21 2019 01:17 GMT
#5494
This is probably a super dumb question but what happened to Sonic? Is ASL like the spiritual successor to SSL or did Sonic stop hosting broodwar events for some other reason.

Randomly thought of this as I was watching ASL and remembered I used to really enjoy SSL too but haven't heard of it in a while.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
March 21 2019 01:45 GMT
#5495
On March 21 2019 10:17 Berby wrote:
This is probably a super dumb question but what happened to Sonic? Is ASL like the spiritual successor to SSL or did Sonic stop hosting broodwar events for some other reason.

Randomly thought of this as I was watching ASL and remembered I used to really enjoy SSL too but haven't heard of it in a while.


https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500441-sonic-sued-for-fraud-update-jan-11
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19379 Posts
March 21 2019 02:17 GMT
#5496
On March 21 2019 10:17 Berby wrote:
This is probably a super dumb question but what happened to Sonic? Is ASL like the spiritual successor to SSL or did Sonic stop hosting broodwar events for some other reason.

Randomly thought of this as I was watching ASL and remembered I used to really enjoy SSL too but haven't heard of it in a while.

Based on his facebook page he is still actively posting and still works for SBENU. So he's not in jail yet.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
March 21 2019 04:25 GMT
#5497
Is it me or are there tons of smurfs on US West? I'm E mmr and the opponents I've faced recently are at least C+ level on iccup.

Or maybe I'm just bad??
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
March 21 2019 09:30 GMT
#5498
On March 21 2019 13:25 Dante08 wrote:
Is it me or are there tons of smurfs on US West? I'm E mmr and the opponents I've faced recently are at least C+ level on iccup.

Or maybe I'm just bad??


Pool of players is not that big so you'll have some variance in opponents skill.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9044 Posts
March 21 2019 09:49 GMT
#5499
game over man , as a cheat code

well, i will go for "show me the money" !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-21 17:21:07
March 21 2019 16:34 GMT
#5500
On March 17 2019 22:00 Letmelose wrote:
I think Soulkey probably has the most efficient screen switching (as in he knows exactly when and where to look, and in which order) out of the current crop of zerg players, which allows him to play faster than what his modest APM figures tends to suggest.

This is what he has in common with Flash and Rain, players with a flow-charty playstyle, who are known for their efficient screen switching. Flash once said that the most important thing in Starcraft is to think of what to do for the upcoming display screen, while carrying out what you should do on the monitor screen currently. I think this sort of philosophy is best represented by Soulkey for the zerg race as of today.

herO does not have a particularly high eAPM, but he does have high APM numbers. I don't think he is in possession of great multi-tasking, but within the zerg-versus-protoss match-up, he does use his high APM figures to produce non-stop while using his massive numbers of hydralisks in unison to beat down the protoss force on the given screen. herO knows how to optimize his drone count and build order, and abuses certain timings while focusing on a single screen to perfect his hydralisk movement and formation.


In further anecdotal support of this line of analysis, if you ever watch Serral in SC2 play in FPV for any length of time, this is really the skill that separates him from even other great players with high eAPM. He is extremely precise with each screen, doing exactly as much as he needs to on each screen before moving on to the next.

It's a specific subset of eAPM but is possibly the most critical as having to switch screens is one of those artificial time sinks that injects tons of "dead" actions into your APM. Making the absolute best of each screen and utilizing each transition efficiently is an extremely hard skill to learn and very few players display mastery of it. Brood War, having smaller hotkey groups and no MBS, magnifies this even further.

edit: This isn't even considering that even "effective" actions can be suboptimal with imprecise screen framing.
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