• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:37
CET 08:37
KST 16:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 101SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1820Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 975 users

BW General Discussion - Page 275

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 273 274 275 276 277 503 Next
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
March 14 2019 17:47 GMT
#5481
Straight to DTs for me . Or cannon rush with no forge.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-14 18:00:59
March 14 2019 18:00 GMT
#5482
Show me the money affects only you, right? A lot of the other cheats affect both players?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
March 14 2019 18:52 GMT
#5483
There is no cow level xD

More on-topic - medieval man, upgraded tier 1 units too good.

4pool with cracklings?
BBS with upgraded marines?
proxy gates with zealot legs?
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 14 2019 19:04 GMT
#5484
Anyone know when EffOrt is leaving for the military?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-14 20:25:25
March 14 2019 20:20 GMT
#5485
I've read in some Twitch chat that Brood War is the third most played game in Korea now, is that true?
I remember it being the fifth most played at the time of Remastered release
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
March 14 2019 21:50 GMT
#5486
Power Overwhelming - I'll take invincibility please.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
March 14 2019 22:01 GMT
#5487
Yay polling is back. I went with black sheep wall. I feel the money cheat would be to easy so I went with black sheep wall. Either one would make your opponent rage though, and rightfully so.
Artosis loves Starcraft
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos251 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 16:24:02
March 15 2019 15:20 GMT
#5488
Watching Zero's stream atm and I notice his play is extremely clean. I think his eapm is very close to his apm, compared to players like larva or effort who are a bit on the erratic side. Do you know any other zerg pros who have a very clean way of playing ?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
March 15 2019 16:03 GMT
#5489
On March 16 2019 00:20 ppp87 wrote:
Watching Zero stream atm and I notice his play is extremely clean. I think is eapm is very close to his apm, compared with players like larva or effort who are a bit on the erratic side. Do you know any other zerg pros who have a very clean way of playing ?

I think by.hero has the highest eAPM in ZvP.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1444 Posts
March 15 2019 16:13 GMT
#5490
On March 16 2019 00:20 ppp87 wrote:
Watching Zero stream atm and I notice his play is extremely clean. I think is eapm is very close to his apm, compared with players like larva or effort who are a bit on the erratic side. Do you know any other zerg pros who have a very clean way of playing ?


Bakuryu
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 17 2019 11:35 GMT
#5491
new ability for observer:
personal defense matrix ability

thoughts?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 13:01:40
March 17 2019 13:00 GMT
#5492
I think Soulkey probably has the most efficient screen switching (as in he knows exactly when and where to look, and in which order) out of the current crop of zerg players, which allows him to play faster than what his modest APM figures tends to suggest.

This is what he has in common with Flash and Rain, players with a flow-charty playstyle, who are known for their efficient screen switching. Flash once said that the most important thing in Starcraft is to think of what to do for the upcoming display screen, while carrying out what you should do on the monitor screen currently. I think this sort of philosophy is best represented by Soulkey for the zerg race as of today.

herO does not have a particularly high eAPM, but he does have high APM numbers. I don't think he is in possession of great multi-tasking, but within the zerg-versus-protoss match-up, he does use his high APM figures to produce non-stop while using his massive numbers of hydralisks in unison to beat down the protoss force on the given screen. herO knows how to optimize his drone count and build order, and abuses certain timings while focusing on a single screen to perfect his hydralisk movement and formation.
TL+ Member
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
March 17 2019 17:39 GMT
#5493
--- Nuked ---
Writer
Berby
Profile Joined February 2019
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-21 01:19:21
March 21 2019 01:17 GMT
#5494
This is probably a super dumb question but what happened to Sonic? Is ASL like the spiritual successor to SSL or did Sonic stop hosting broodwar events for some other reason.

Randomly thought of this as I was watching ASL and remembered I used to really enjoy SSL too but haven't heard of it in a while.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
March 21 2019 01:45 GMT
#5495
On March 21 2019 10:17 Berby wrote:
This is probably a super dumb question but what happened to Sonic? Is ASL like the spiritual successor to SSL or did Sonic stop hosting broodwar events for some other reason.

Randomly thought of this as I was watching ASL and remembered I used to really enjoy SSL too but haven't heard of it in a while.


https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500441-sonic-sued-for-fraud-update-jan-11
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
March 21 2019 02:17 GMT
#5496
On March 21 2019 10:17 Berby wrote:
This is probably a super dumb question but what happened to Sonic? Is ASL like the spiritual successor to SSL or did Sonic stop hosting broodwar events for some other reason.

Randomly thought of this as I was watching ASL and remembered I used to really enjoy SSL too but haven't heard of it in a while.

Based on his facebook page he is still actively posting and still works for SBENU. So he's not in jail yet.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
March 21 2019 04:25 GMT
#5497
Is it me or are there tons of smurfs on US West? I'm E mmr and the opponents I've faced recently are at least C+ level on iccup.

Or maybe I'm just bad??
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
March 21 2019 09:30 GMT
#5498
On March 21 2019 13:25 Dante08 wrote:
Is it me or are there tons of smurfs on US West? I'm E mmr and the opponents I've faced recently are at least C+ level on iccup.

Or maybe I'm just bad??


Pool of players is not that big so you'll have some variance in opponents skill.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
March 21 2019 09:49 GMT
#5499
game over man , as a cheat code

well, i will go for "show me the money" !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-21 17:21:07
March 21 2019 16:34 GMT
#5500
On March 17 2019 22:00 Letmelose wrote:
I think Soulkey probably has the most efficient screen switching (as in he knows exactly when and where to look, and in which order) out of the current crop of zerg players, which allows him to play faster than what his modest APM figures tends to suggest.

This is what he has in common with Flash and Rain, players with a flow-charty playstyle, who are known for their efficient screen switching. Flash once said that the most important thing in Starcraft is to think of what to do for the upcoming display screen, while carrying out what you should do on the monitor screen currently. I think this sort of philosophy is best represented by Soulkey for the zerg race as of today.

herO does not have a particularly high eAPM, but he does have high APM numbers. I don't think he is in possession of great multi-tasking, but within the zerg-versus-protoss match-up, he does use his high APM figures to produce non-stop while using his massive numbers of hydralisks in unison to beat down the protoss force on the given screen. herO knows how to optimize his drone count and build order, and abuses certain timings while focusing on a single screen to perfect his hydralisk movement and formation.


In further anecdotal support of this line of analysis, if you ever watch Serral in SC2 play in FPV for any length of time, this is really the skill that separates him from even other great players with high eAPM. He is extremely precise with each screen, doing exactly as much as he needs to on each screen before moving on to the next.

It's a specific subset of eAPM but is possibly the most critical as having to switch screens is one of those artificial time sinks that injects tons of "dead" actions into your APM. Making the absolute best of each screen and utilizing each transition efficiently is an extremely hard skill to learn and very few players display mastery of it. Brood War, having smaller hotkey groups and no MBS, magnifies this even further.

edit: This isn't even considering that even "effective" actions can be suboptimal with imprecise screen framing.
the last wcs commissioner
Prev 1 273 274 275 276 277 503 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Korean StarCraft League
03:00
Week 84
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 206
StarCraft: Brood War
Stork 432
Larva 241
Leta 168
EffOrt 112
Aegong 57
scan(afreeca) 23
Bale 7
Dota 2
XaKoH 544
NeuroSwarm215
League of Legends
JimRising 827
C9.Mang0663
Other Games
summit1g7105
minikerr50
Mew2King43
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV35
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1532
• Stunt438
Other Games
• Shiphtur2454
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 23m
IPSL
9h 23m
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
10h 23m
OSC
1d 4h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 6h
Replay Cast
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.