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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 05:29:01
November 21 2013 05:28 GMT
#381
On November 21 2013 14:10 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:15 Ribbon wrote:
WCS 2014

. With the goal to provide a more streamlined experience for both the players and the audience, OGN will not be hosting WCS Korea 2014. OGN has rights to run both StarCraft and StarCraft II tournaments alongside WCS and will be able to run WCS global events that offer WCS points.


OGN has Blizzard's blessing to broadcast BW tournaments. This might not mean anything, but this is an official Blizzard release and no one else is mentioned as having broadcast rights to both games.


I don't think that changes anything.
From the Q&A: "They (OGN) also retain the right to run both StarCraft and StarCraft II content"


It may not technically change anything, but lets be frank, businesses go over these sorts of press releases with a fine tooth comb and if they say something like that then they meant for it to be in there and mean something. They could have easily only said Starcraft II and nobody would have thought anything of it.

There's probably a pretty specific reason both games were mentioned.


Well, from Blizzard's point of view, OGN never really had the "rights" to broadcast BW in the first place, though I've long suspected the lawsuits were specifically anti-KeSPA. I wouldn't be surprised at all to at least see OGN airing the Sonic StarLeague, and I wouldn't even be so shocked if Blizz was pressuring them to do it, since a Blizzard-blessed BW revival helps ease some of the bad feelings a lot of the Korean market has towards SC2. And, once Legacy of the Void is out a few months, it officially makes no difference to Blizzard if BW usurps SC2 to become the One True eSport once again, especially since they'd be getting royalties for both. So I imagine Blizz is a lot more willing (eager?) to play nice with the BW scene.

Red Viper might be right to assume it's nothing, but at the very least, this seems to be Blizzard announcing that they will no longer try to fuck with the BW scene (though I think they've been on good terms with Sonic?).
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 21 2013 05:29 GMT
#382
Didn't Sonic and Blizz had some sort of wrinkles in the past? I remember Sonic almost giving up because of blizz pressure
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chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
November 21 2013 07:07 GMT
#383
They nearly forced him to cancel the SSL 7 finals because he didn't have a broadcast license.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
November 21 2013 17:01 GMT
#384
On November 21 2013 16:07 chaosTheory_14cc wrote:
They nearly forced him to cancel the SSL 7 finals because he didn't have a broadcast license.


This is what I meant by "specific reason both games were mentioned". Giving OGN a license to broadcast BW and not Sonic means more downward pressure on Sonic, because now he could get pressure from OGN as well.
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 21 2013 17:17 GMT
#385
On November 21 2013 14:28 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 14:10 vesicular wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On November 21 2013 10:15 Ribbon wrote:
WCS 2014

. With the goal to provide a more streamlined experience for both the players and the audience, OGN will not be hosting WCS Korea 2014. OGN has rights to run both StarCraft and StarCraft II tournaments alongside WCS and will be able to run WCS global events that offer WCS points.


OGN has Blizzard's blessing to broadcast BW tournaments. This might not mean anything, but this is an official Blizzard release and no one else is mentioned as having broadcast rights to both games.


I don't think that changes anything.
From the Q&A: "They (OGN) also retain the right to run both StarCraft and StarCraft II content"


It may not technically change anything, but lets be frank, businesses go over these sorts of press releases with a fine tooth comb and if they say something like that then they meant for it to be in there and mean something. They could have easily only said Starcraft II and nobody would have thought anything of it.

There's probably a pretty specific reason both games were mentioned.


Well, from Blizzard's point of view, OGN never really had the "rights" to broadcast BW in the first place, though I've long suspected the lawsuits were specifically anti-KeSPA. I wouldn't be surprised at all to at least see OGN airing the Sonic StarLeague, and I wouldn't even be so shocked if Blizz was pressuring them to do it, since a Blizzard-blessed BW revival helps ease some of the bad feelings a lot of the Korean market has towards SC2. And, once Legacy of the Void is out a few months, it officially makes no difference to Blizzard if BW usurps SC2 to become the One True eSport once again, especially since they'd be getting royalties for both. So I imagine Blizz is a lot more willing (eager?) to play nice with the BW scene.

Red Viper might be right to assume it's nothing, but at the very least, this seems to be Blizzard announcing that they will no longer try to fuck with the BW scene (though I think they've been on good terms with Sonic?).

What happened was basically Sonic was reminded before SSL7 finals that he needs a streaming license to BW to make sure there aren't any problems when he does the live event. Everyone went shitnutz, and IIRC someone important from Blizzard quickly got to know this and he basically pushed for everything to go smooth, so Sonic obtained the license in a matter of hours. I don't see how suddenly this license would be rendered ineffective and would be only usable by OGN.

Btw. Sonic ran a program before on OGN. I think rather than OGN fucking over Sonic, some kind of cooperation seems more viable. Any interference at this point would be a horrible PR move that would cause a great uprising.
En Taro Violet
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
November 21 2013 17:23 GMT
#386
OGN is probably fine but I wonder if KESPA would start up BW teams again.
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 21 2013 17:34 GMT
#387
It's already pretty clear that Sonic is barely making this teamleague work (it is fun, delivers epic games and everything) but constant rescheduling with 0 notice and players missing during casts.. no proleague revival is anywhere near.
En Taro Violet
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
November 21 2013 18:45 GMT
#388
On November 22 2013 02:34 Stratos wrote:
It's already pretty clear that Sonic is barely making this teamleague work (it is fun, delivers epic games and everything) but constant rescheduling with 0 notice and players missing during casts.. no proleague revival is anywhere near.


Perhaps having a strict regimen similar to what kespa had would help enforce this
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
November 21 2013 22:15 GMT
#389
On November 22 2013 03:45 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 02:34 Stratos wrote:
It's already pretty clear that Sonic is barely making this teamleague work (it is fun, delivers epic games and everything) but constant rescheduling with 0 notice and players missing during casts.. no proleague revival is anywhere near.


Perhaps having a strict regimen similar to what kespa had would help enforce this
It would be tough to get players to go along with that kind of thing without the associated money...
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
November 22 2013 01:02 GMT
#390
On November 22 2013 03:45 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 02:34 Stratos wrote:
It's already pretty clear that Sonic is barely making this teamleague work (it is fun, delivers epic games and everything) but constant rescheduling with 0 notice and players missing during casts.. no proleague revival is anywhere near.


Perhaps having a strict regimen similar to what kespa had would help enforce this

Would only work if they got salaries
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 06:28:56
November 23 2013 06:28 GMT
#391
Just watched Sea take out by.hero. So solid and great multitasking. Also, great mental strength under pressure. Hard to believe at times that he was considered ok in the sense that even though he led MBCGame to it's only victory, he did poorly in OSL/MSL. To be fair though, he's probably less stressed and playing better than back then so maybe it's not fair to compare this to past performances.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
November 23 2013 13:34 GMT
#392
omg marwin featured!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
November 24 2013 05:45 GMT
#393
That face when sziky loses to a nuke
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=_N8g54Rg-ng
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
November 24 2013 08:58 GMT
#394
wow nuke sunken bust new metagame
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 10:21:04
November 24 2013 10:20 GMT
#395
On November 24 2013 14:45 traceurling wrote:
That face when sziky loses to a nuke
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=_N8g54Rg-ng

poor sziky T_T if only that overlord was just a tiny bit more closer
Do the korean streamers like hiya, bisu, sea, hero movie know that sziky is like our foreign god?
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 24 2013 11:15 GMT
#396
On November 24 2013 19:20 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 14:45 traceurling wrote:
That face when sziky loses to a nuke
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=_N8g54Rg-ng

poor sziky T_T if only that overlord was just a tiny bit more closer
Do the korean streamers like hiya, bisu, sea, hero movie know that sziky is like our foreign god?

At the beginning of this game Hiya thought Sziky was a chinese ex-pro but someone let him know that's not the case. I think Movie knows since he played him and they chatted a bit. Also Sea must know since he played the showmatch.
En Taro Violet
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 24 2013 11:21 GMT
#397
On November 24 2013 20:15 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 19:20 Shock710 wrote:
On November 24 2013 14:45 traceurling wrote:
That face when sziky loses to a nuke
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=_N8g54Rg-ng

poor sziky T_T if only that overlord was just a tiny bit more closer
Do the korean streamers like hiya, bisu, sea, hero movie know that sziky is like our foreign god?

At the beginning of this game Hiya thought Sziky was a chinese ex-pro but someone let him know that's not the case. I think Movie knows since he played him and they chatted a bit. Also Sea must know since he played the showmatch.

ooh that reminds me, how come there was no special showmatch for the TSL finals this time?
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 24 2013 11:27 GMT
#398
On November 22 2013 02:34 Stratos wrote:
It's already pretty clear that Sonic is barely making this teamleague work (it is fun, delivers epic games and everything) but constant rescheduling with 0 notice and players missing during casts.. no proleague revival is anywhere near.


That's okay

I never thought of it as a proper SPL, more like the super matches he was doing a while back, with more rigidity. It's swell.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
November 24 2013 11:32 GMT
#399
On November 24 2013 20:21 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 20:15 Stratos wrote:
On November 24 2013 19:20 Shock710 wrote:
On November 24 2013 14:45 traceurling wrote:
That face when sziky loses to a nuke
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c4-feed-u&v=_N8g54Rg-ng

poor sziky T_T if only that overlord was just a tiny bit more closer
Do the korean streamers like hiya, bisu, sea, hero movie know that sziky is like our foreign god?

At the beginning of this game Hiya thought Sziky was a chinese ex-pro but someone let him know that's not the case. I think Movie knows since he played him and they chatted a bit. Also Sea must know since he played the showmatch.

ooh that reminds me, how come there was no special showmatch for the TSL finals this time?

Sziky was really busy and couldn't find the time to play in the week besides the final games. I'm sure the TLS crew will make up for it with some cool show(matche)s while we wait for the Championship
En Taro Violet
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
November 24 2013 21:40 GMT
#400
Give us the Bizzy vs Technics game that we were robbed of as the show match.
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