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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 16 2017 15:11 GMT
#3901
On August 16 2017 23:42 Foxxan wrote:
Anyone know how to watch afreeca streams without lag?

Click view on Afreeca then change quality from source as soon as video loads
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Therapist.
Profile Joined January 2009
United States207 Posts
August 16 2017 15:37 GMT
#3902
Some questions about turn rate/input delay in SC:R / BW...

I played BW more than 5 years ago and my memory of the feel of the game is weak. I have a few questions regarding SC:R and BW in general that it's been hard for me to find answers on in searching around.

1. Turn Rate - I've read various interpretations about what this is. It seems to indicate how responsive units are and dictate command delay. Is this equivalent to "High Latency Mode" or "Low Latency Mode" or "LAN Latency" of the past? If so, what setting do I want when playing low ping games with friends?

What Turn Rate is the ladder played on? 8? Does this imply that it will be more delayed than a LAN latency game or is it something different?

2. Microing 1a2a3a4a. I understand that keyboard inputs are dropped while you're clicking, but it feels very exaggerated for me to the point where I must heavily delay each 1a click.... 2a click.... 3a.... click... etc. Is this the same as it ever was? Is there any special technique to this or is there any training method or map that helps work on this?

Thanks very much!
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-16 16:48:32
August 16 2017 16:48 GMT
#3903
@therapist
I dont know 100% but from what i gathered, it is indeed how responsive units are. The more the better response, 8 is the number from what ive heard on the ladder, and that is a quite big delay indeed.
16-18 is the maximum, and can be made in private games, so with low ping friends, set it to maximum.

Not sure about the latency thing. I heard one comment that said if you set the turnrate to max but then set it to high latency, it kinda blocks each other somehow.. Either way i am lost there so maybe just ignore this last part.


On August 17 2017 00:11 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 23:42 Foxxan wrote:
Anyone know how to watch afreeca streams without lag?

Click view on Afreeca then change quality from source as soon as video loads

Cant find this option. Either way i got a way through VLC. Thread on TL for anyone interested:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/512913-guide-watch-afreeca-sc-bw-streams-with-vlc
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
August 17 2017 06:28 GMT
#3904
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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
August 17 2017 08:07 GMT
#3905
not sure what you mean by getting more popular these days, bisu has been playing that build like 95% for the last 2 years on nearly every map.
the current effect is that at most the build is evening out pvz. but the build is not the solution to a balanced pvz, it is just that many zerg and protoss players very often do stupid, but very crucial mistakes.
in Jaedong vs Bisu at GG Together. Jaedong made 4 crucial mistakes, Bisu made only 1. But even after Jaedong made 3 mistakes and is being forced to drop or else he loses, because Bisu made his only mistake by completely getting catched offguard and not leaving ht at his 3rd, Jaedong was in a winning position if he just attacked Bisu's 3rd immediately. But instead he wasted precious time in front of Bisu's natural and ultimately couldnt kill the 3rd.
After the game you can see it at Bisu's reaction how he was not happy with that game, as everything went "perfect" but a single "stupid" mistake basically cost him the game while being lucky Jaedong didnt punish Bisu for that.
David_y34h
Profile Joined July 2017
10 Posts
August 17 2017 12:23 GMT
#3906
Guys if i have units on 1-2-3 and wan't to move them i do: 1-click 2-click 3-click, but if i do it too fast i only move the firts control group...

Any solution?
dawei
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia10 Posts
August 17 2017 12:25 GMT
#3907
So is there a way to chat in-game while I'm playing? A chat window popped up from my friend while I was playing the campaign, and I couldn't open it again when I closed it. Do I just need to alt-tab to chat again?
LifeIsGood
Profile Joined June 2017
4 Posts
August 17 2017 16:00 GMT
#3908
how big of an impact in korea do you guys think SC R will have ?
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 17 2017 16:26 GMT
#3909
On August 17 2017 21:25 dawei wrote:
So is there a way to chat in-game while I'm playing? A chat window popped up from my friend while I was playing the campaign, and I couldn't open it again when I closed it. Do I just need to alt-tab to chat again?

you can type /r my-message
to respond to the last person who whispered you
blabberrrrr
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
August 17 2017 16:41 GMT
#3910
what a great release

they had to really churn out some garbage to kill my excitement for this release

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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 17 2017 16:54 GMT
#3911
On August 18 2017 01:41 mOnion wrote:
what a great release

they had to really churn out some garbage to kill my excitement for this release

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Ive said it a million times, the small problems here are nothing like some of the ones ive experienced onWoW expansion launches or anything. The game was more or less working when it came out, more than can be said for some of the shit i've seen in WoW.

Seriously its a Blizzard game, shit like this is always expected for the first couple days after launch. Give it a week or so and the game will run like clockwork.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
August 17 2017 17:02 GMT
#3912
Honestly I'd rather have the problems now than later. It means we'll have a more stable release super quick.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 17:07:34
August 17 2017 17:06 GMT
#3913
Anyone else play on 1366x786 res and have the lobby scr fonts not displayed correctly ? like all stacked. I wonder if this problem comes from my laptop exotic res.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 17 2017 17:49 GMT
#3914
Its dropping everyone at the same time ine very game, quite odd, and giving me a loss. feels bad
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 17 2017 17:55 GMT
#3915
there's no way currently to autosave replays, right?
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 17:59:44
August 17 2017 17:59 GMT
#3916
On August 18 2017 02:55 Zelniq wrote:
there's no way currently to autosave replays, right?


They automatically save already in the AutoSave folder (Pretty sure that's what it's called)
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 18:15:39
August 17 2017 18:01 GMT
#3917
On August 17 2017 21:23 David_y34h wrote:
Guys if i have units on 1-2-3 and wan't to move them i do: 1-click 2-click 3-click, but if i do it too fast i only move the firts control group...

Any solution?


You said it yourself: "if i do it too fast"

The only solution is to perform the inputs more precisely, meaning: without overlap, both tapping hotkeys on the keyboard and clicking with the mouse.

(If Blizzard didn't do something about this in SC:R that I don't know about then) in BW, unlike in SC2 or other newer releases, the game won't accept a mouse-click as long as you're still holding a keyboard-button down. If you play newer games, you're used to that being possible, BW forces you do do precisely one input at a time.

With a little practice this won't be a problem apart from very few cases. I recommed you accept this as a challenge and special charme of an old classic game, another thing to overcome and be proud of afterwards - and don't demand convenience right away in this or other similar regards...

edit: And to be clear: Everyone has to overcome this problem, it's perfectly fair because the game treats everyone even. Additionally, you won't lose a single game through the fraction of a second you "lose" because you have to make precise inputs in BW. Or one in a million, literally. Managing your multitasking right so you are present to control battles precisely is the key for winning battles.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 18:06:13
August 17 2017 18:05 GMT
#3918
losing points cuz my opponent DC's out

jeez

I got a wedding to plan anyway, not playing this game for two weeks till I'm back from the honeymoon
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
August 17 2017 18:21 GMT
#3919
On August 18 2017 02:55 Zelniq wrote:
there's no way currently to autosave replays, right?


They already do. Go to MyDocuments/Starcraft and they should be in there.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 17 2017 19:11 GMT
#3920
What are the LL equivalency in SC:R turn rate?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
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