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PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
June 21 2013 05:49 GMT
#561
Is there really absolutely positively completely 0% chance of getting Blizzard to do anything about the state of sc1 battle.net? I know they get no money, but nobody should leave an active playerbase of a game that still runs friggin tournaments on major websites to the mercy of Russians that hire insane moderators that ban entire countries.
"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 21 2013 06:21 GMT
#562
they want to get every body to sc2, so why even bother.

besides if bw becomes so populair again that ogn ect starts broadcasting again they still have no rights (conformation needed)
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
June 21 2013 07:18 GMT
#563
They said they're gonna port the old games to bnet 2 soon(TM)
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 07:35:20
June 21 2013 07:34 GMT
#564
On June 21 2013 16:18 xboi209 wrote:
They said they're gonna port the old games to bnet 2 soon(TM)

oh my god.. no...

please NO !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
June 21 2013 07:44 GMT
#565
How about platypus server?
http://www.livescience.com/images/i/000/037/320/original/platypus-shutterstock.jpg?1362158472
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
June 21 2013 08:12 GMT
#566
If they port the old games to BNET 2 and give them auto-matchmaking, I am all for it.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
June 21 2013 08:17 GMT
#567
On June 21 2013 17:12 Qwyn wrote:
If they port the old games to BNET 2 and give them auto-matchmaking, I am all for it.

just giving the automatchmaking would be enough imo..

I mean the technology is there, they can do it with ease on bnet 1
T H C makes ppl happy
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 08:27:22
June 21 2013 08:26 GMT
#568
There aren't guarantees about what features they'll bring along with bnet2 compatibility but imo, they'll simply force you to login with your bnet2 account so you can chat between sc2, wow, d3, and other clients being ported.
Again, there aren't guarantees about any legacy games being ported to bnet2 at all because they never released any statements about it, i just remember Sixen relayed this piece of info to the public
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
UPro-BW
Profile Joined September 2012
81 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 12:40:36
June 21 2013 12:40 GMT
#569
how about having a 3v3 ladder like fish, could bring alot of europe server players
"3t4t5t6v7v8v9v" - iloveoov
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 21 2013 14:13 GMT
#570
On June 21 2013 14:45 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 00:23 bubO wrote:
So is this going to happen??? New server would be so awesome.


He said it was going to take a long-ass time. Not that I'm complaining though - I think every time someone bumps this to ask when it's going to happen, it gives Birdie more power, and his power level needs to reach 9,000 before the project can be complete.


So we are now operating on Valve time?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 21 2013 16:03 GMT
#571
Hmm... I haven't checked out the BW forums in a while, so I may have missed something that provoked this... I really have always liked the idea of a server and I wish you the best of luck with it... Back when I was working on something like this (privately - for the most part), our programmer had gotten all of the code pretty well finalized... And we had a functioning test server (which I had played a few games on with L_Master and Sebas, everything worked great, elo included. Anyhow, this was well over a year ago... Certain things remained however...

1) It's illegal... No matter what anyone says about how Blizzard hasn't sued other servers and/or can't... They can and they would if they thought it to be worth while. I mean, if you're doing crack, it's likely that the cops won't catch you and that the cops don't care too much if they catch you... But it doesn't take away from the nature of the activity and the risks implicated. IF Blizzard ever were to sue the owner/creator of this server when it took off... They would be in a far bigger dept than they could hope to ever pay off.

2) Financials, one of the things that has to be talked about when running a server is... It costs a lot to rent a server which is going to be powerful enough as to not have people get pissed off at the server for being slow. You can't either do an expand as you go unless you grab a cloud service because if there is a noticeable delay or lag in the start, people won't trust it... So, you need to make money from ads and sponsorships... If done successfully, it can be great given that... It'll increase credibility and inevitably increase partnerships... However, the bigger you grow sideways $$$$, the more interest comes through point #1.

3) Technical maintenance, what happens when a server goes down? What happens when bugs need to get fixed? Is it the same day, or is it a week from now? Technical problems can arise at any time even and many times for no apparent reason. Are you going to pay someone to take care of this on a daily basis? To monitor server stats? If so, include this into point #2, if not... Then how will reliability and uptime work?

4) Public relations, to maintain a good server (which is mostly the noise you hear about iccup), you need good relationship management. The tricky part about this is... You can't manage the server independently, you don't have the money to pay anyone to manage it professionally except otherwise included into point #2 budget and you're basically left to rely on whoever volunteers for the position. You may think it's hard to get a crew as bad as the one down the road and go with the pre-conceived notion of "well, just get better people" or "well, it's all about the management" and then you will get to see how the ware of the job which is not even giving these people benefit in either online or irl takes hold...

5) Koreans, if you want the server to really explode, you need the Koreans. They will increase your ad revenue as well as give you a solid reliable player base which constitutes your "activity". You can't have the server being dead all the time. For this you'll likely need prize money which relates back as well to point #2.

I hope you make it work, despite not playing or watching bw... I think it's a good thing for the community so long as it works.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 21 2013 17:51 GMT
#572
On June 22 2013 01:03 Eywa- wrote:
Hmm... I haven't checked out the BW forums in a while, so I may have missed something that provoked this... I really have always liked the idea of a server and I wish you the best of luck with it... Back when I was working on something like this (privately - for the most part), our programmer had gotten all of the code pretty well finalized... And we had a functioning test server (which I had played a few games on with L_Master and Sebas, everything worked great, elo included. Anyhow, this was well over a year ago... Certain things remained however...

1) It's illegal... No matter what anyone says about how Blizzard hasn't sued other servers and/or can't... They can and they would if they thought it to be worth while. I mean, if you're doing crack, it's likely that the cops won't catch you and that the cops don't care too much if they catch you... But it doesn't take away from the nature of the activity and the risks implicated. IF Blizzard ever were to sue the owner/creator of this server when it took off... They would be in a far bigger dept than they could hope to ever pay off.

2) Financials, one of the things that has to be talked about when running a server is... It costs a lot to rent a server which is going to be powerful enough as to not have people get pissed off at the server for being slow. You can't either do an expand as you go unless you grab a cloud service because if there is a noticeable delay or lag in the start, people won't trust it... So, you need to make money from ads and sponsorships... If done successfully, it can be great given that... It'll increase credibility and inevitably increase partnerships... However, the bigger you grow sideways $$$$, the more interest comes through point #1.

3) Technical maintenance, what happens when a server goes down? What happens when bugs need to get fixed? Is it the same day, or is it a week from now? Technical problems can arise at any time even and many times for no apparent reason. Are you going to pay someone to take care of this on a daily basis? To monitor server stats? If so, include this into point #2, if not... Then how will reliability and uptime work?

4) Public relations, to maintain a good server (which is mostly the noise you hear about iccup), you need good relationship management. The tricky part about this is... You can't manage the server independently, you don't have the money to pay anyone to manage it professionally except otherwise included into point #2 budget and you're basically left to rely on whoever volunteers for the position. You may think it's hard to get a crew as bad as the one down the road and go with the pre-conceived notion of "well, just get better people" or "well, it's all about the management" and then you will get to see how the ware of the job which is not even giving these people benefit in either online or irl takes hold...

5) Koreans, if you want the server to really explode, you need the Koreans. They will increase your ad revenue as well as give you a solid reliable player base which constitutes your "activity". You can't have the server being dead all the time. For this you'll likely need prize money which relates back as well to point #2.

I hope you make it work, despite not playing or watching bw... I think it's a good thing for the community so long as it works.

Vouching for this conceptually... we indeed had plans on a huge private server and then called it off.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 21 2013 19:00 GMT
#573
lol ewya.

i thought you went away for ever.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Myujinsan
Profile Joined November 2008
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 20:16:34
June 21 2013 20:02 GMT
#574
On June 18 2013 05:29 EpicDramaOnIccup wrote:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4576/xtb9.jpg

Oh the Irony, today Iccup.GeckoXP was blacklisted by the owner of Iccup Iccup.YelloAnt for racism! The moderators deleted this guys thread quickly to cover it up. GeckoXP is no longer on the Iccup team.

Recently Gecko had been trolling Alfio on Defiler.Ru, and when Alfio reverse trolled him, Gecko blacklisted Alfio and Zergboy on Iccup.com I guess YellowAnt caught on to his abuse of powers and fired GeckoXP ROFL.
Source: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/community/thread/615870.html

Don't think Iccup's problems are cured yet, there is still Face/Gen/and S0ldi3r who are just as retarded as GeckoXP.

Let us all remember GeckoXP kept banning a bunch of users for bming Iccup on sites like teamliquid.net and Defiler.Ru. LRM)Semih was only banned because of his bad reputation, no real reason. Sayle was only banned because he was streaming at the same time as an Iccup tournament, and Gecko got pissed... Doty, Alfio, Eonzerg banned for bming Gecko on Defiler.Ru and German sites. Kiante, Sabas, Mellial, Shade, sgs.pie, slugger[wok], stratos all banned for making fun of pucca on teamliquid.net.... And some of the most important community leaders banned because of a childish grudge of Gecko like LRM)Game, Eywa, Noone, Sayle, Joekim.



Shade you still live in another world (yes this guy is Shade, and yes, i'm iCCup.Gen)

I'm a not cured problem of iCCup ? everyone know 2 things, if you dont do anything against iCCup rules you won't have problem with me, and i show work, solving ladder complaint like a mad men since months.

So yeah i ban abuser, that's such a problem... but maybe you would like to see hack everywhere ?¿

Now, you can't stop insulting iCCup since you get banned for your fake suicide letter, i did even try to talk with you for one hour, but there is no points trying to see reality in your words, its just pure insult toward everyone. (like all the pm you sent to me and other admin as free insult).

Gecko get ban from Yello-Ant is another crap. Trying to point that just show how much you have no clue of how iCCup works.

On a sidenote i have no idea about Gecko/Eon/Alfio drama/flame. And there are other admin managing that section.

And some of the most important community leaders banned because of a childish grudge of Gecko like LRM)Game, Eywa, Noone, Sayle, Joekim.


This is just epic. you just name the 2 biggest iCCup abuser of all time (achievement unlocked YaY).

So basically sorry to bring more iCCup drama in this alternative server topic. Sorry also to speak in the name of an iCCup. admin.

I'm just tired, not of the fact that shade can't stop insult iCCup, but of the fact that actually there is people thinking he may have truth in his words.

And sorry for my crappy english.

sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 21 2013 20:34 GMT
#575
On June 22 2013 05:02 Myujinsan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 05:29 EpicDramaOnIccup wrote:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4576/xtb9.jpg

Oh the Irony, today Iccup.GeckoXP was blacklisted by the owner of Iccup Iccup.YelloAnt for racism! The moderators deleted this guys thread quickly to cover it up. GeckoXP is no longer on the Iccup team.

Recently Gecko had been trolling Alfio on Defiler.Ru, and when Alfio reverse trolled him, Gecko blacklisted Alfio and Zergboy on Iccup.com I guess YellowAnt caught on to his abuse of powers and fired GeckoXP ROFL.
Source: http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/community/thread/615870.html

Don't think Iccup's problems are cured yet, there is still Face/Gen/and S0ldi3r who are just as retarded as GeckoXP.

Let us all remember GeckoXP kept banning a bunch of users for bming Iccup on sites like teamliquid.net and Defiler.Ru. LRM)Semih was only banned because of his bad reputation, no real reason. Sayle was only banned because he was streaming at the same time as an Iccup tournament, and Gecko got pissed... Doty, Alfio, Eonzerg banned for bming Gecko on Defiler.Ru and German sites. Kiante, Sabas, Mellial, Shade, sgs.pie, slugger[wok], stratos all banned for making fun of pucca on teamliquid.net.... And some of the most important community leaders banned because of a childish grudge of Gecko like LRM)Game, Eywa, Noone, Sayle, Joekim.



Shade you still live in another world (yes this guy is Shade, and yes, i'm iCCup.Gen)

I'm a not cured problem of iCCup ? everyone know 2 things, if you dont do anything against iCCup rules you won't have problem with me, and i show work, solving ladder complaint like a mad men since months.

So yeah i ban abuser, that's such a problem... but maybe you would like to see hack everywhere ?¿

Now, you can't stop insulting iCCup since you get banned for your fake suicide letter, i did even try to talk with you for one hour, but there is no points trying to see reality in your words, its just pure insult toward everyone. (like all the pm you sent to me and other admin as free insult).

Gecko get ban from Yello-Ant is another crap. Trying to point that just show how much you have no clue of how iCCup works.

On a sidenote i have no idea about Gecko/Eon/Alfio drama/flame. And there are other admin managing that section.

Show nested quote +
And some of the most important community leaders banned because of a childish grudge of Gecko like LRM)Game, Eywa, Noone, Sayle, Joekim.


This is just epic. you just name the 2 biggest iCCup abuser of all time (achievement unlocked YaY).

So basically sorry to bring more iCCup drama in this alternative server topic. Sorry also to speak in the name of an iCCup. admin.

I'm just tired, not of the fact that shade can't stop insult iCCup, but of the fact that actually there is people thinking he may have truth in his words.

And sorry for my crappy english.


so there happened thing with gecko after the incident?

just to make sure
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Myujinsan
Profile Joined November 2008
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 21:23:55
June 21 2013 20:42 GMT
#576
Don't know what you mean by "after the incident".

What xboi said was true, Gecko volontary quit, i'm not really interested in drama so i have no clue of what happend, when , why, who, etc.

edit: no idea about rumor, and for what i know Gecko isnt/won't be back.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 21 2013 20:51 GMT
#577
On June 22 2013 05:42 Myujinsan wrote:
Don't know what you mean by "after the incident".

What xboi said was true, Gecko volontary quit, i'm not really interested in drama so i have no clue of what happend, when , why, who, etc.

i meant with all the drama and such.

also i heard a roumer that gecko was placed back in hes postistion, is this true?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
June 21 2013 21:34 GMT
#578
Gecko left and won't be coming back, period
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
smokeybear2
Profile Joined February 2013
United States51 Posts
June 21 2013 21:46 GMT
#579
make this happen
Be 4 life
smokeybear2
Profile Joined February 2013
United States51 Posts
June 21 2013 21:47 GMT
#580
the launcher update wont let me play BW!!!!
Be 4 life
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