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MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:51:55
August 07 2012 12:30 GMT
#1
Hi, this is MADiNHo again! Got some requests to make some new walls on some different maps, so here are those I've done so fare, but I'm still open for suggestions if anyone need me to make a wall on some other map. I chose not to comment all of he pictures this time, so I'll leave it open for questions and comments.

Feel free to tell me whats good/bad, and I'll see what I can do.

Hope you enjoy this!

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MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
August 07 2012 12:35 GMT
#2
I didn't realize the picture would get that small, guess I used a bad uploading site or something, so I send with all the pictures here in a zip file: DIRECT DOWNLOAD
C'est la vie.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
August 07 2012 12:38 GMT
#3
Try using Imgur.com!
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
August 07 2012 12:56 GMT
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i tried learning it...... but its just tmi
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
August 07 2012 13:40 GMT
#5
I might fix the pictures tonight at work, was just too much work, took me some hours Stay tuned!
C'est la vie.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 14:14:37
August 07 2012 14:10 GMT
#6
On August 07 2012 21:56 BlindKill wrote:
i tried learning it...... but its just tmi

Its in invaluable tool, especially for new Terran players, If you want to get good at the game you cant throw it off as "it's tmi wahh wahh"

also have some walloffs i made a long time ago i'll post here in a moment!

These are all for Outsider i believe
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Both ling/zealot proof
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MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
August 07 2012 15:47 GMT
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On August 07 2012 23:10 arb wrote:
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On August 07 2012 21:56 BlindKill wrote:
i tried learning it...... but its just tmi

Its in invaluable tool, especially for new Terran players, If you want to get good at the game you cant throw it off as "it's tmi wahh wahh"

also have some walloffs i made a long time ago i'll post here in a moment!

These are all for Outsider i believe
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Fairly sure all are ling/zealot proof



These are for Destination :

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Both ling/zealot proof


The destination one is wrong, depot placement all wrong Even though they work, but.. ye
C'est la vie.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 07 2012 18:38 GMT
#8
On August 08 2012 00:47 MaD[AoV] wrote:
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On August 07 2012 23:10 arb wrote:
On August 07 2012 21:56 BlindKill wrote:
i tried learning it...... but its just tmi

Its in invaluable tool, especially for new Terran players, If you want to get good at the game you cant throw it off as "it's tmi wahh wahh"

also have some walloffs i made a long time ago i'll post here in a moment!

These are all for Outsider i believe
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Fairly sure all are ling/zealot proof



These are for Destination :

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Both ling/zealot proof


The destination one is wrong, depot placement all wrong Even though they work, but.. ye

I don't see how they're wrong? they both work. Sure i could move the depots up and put the barracks forward, but they still work
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 07 2012 18:43 GMT
#9
On August 08 2012 03:38 arb wrote:
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On August 08 2012 00:47 MaD[AoV] wrote:
On August 07 2012 23:10 arb wrote:
On August 07 2012 21:56 BlindKill wrote:
i tried learning it...... but its just tmi

Its in invaluable tool, especially for new Terran players, If you want to get good at the game you cant throw it off as "it's tmi wahh wahh"

also have some walloffs i made a long time ago i'll post here in a moment!

These are all for Outsider i believe
+ Show Spoiler +

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Fairly sure all are ling/zealot proof



These are for Destination :

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

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Both ling/zealot proof


The destination one is wrong, depot placement all wrong Even though they work, but.. ye

I don't see how they're wrong? they both work. Sure i could move the depots up and put the barracks forward, but they still work

Is the first one on Outsider really ling proof? The depot to the right of the Barracks seems wrong, maybe it counts as over the Barracks? Then I see how it's right
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
August 07 2012 18:49 GMT
#10
On August 08 2012 03:38 arb wrote:
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On August 08 2012 00:47 MaD[AoV] wrote:
On August 07 2012 23:10 arb wrote:
On August 07 2012 21:56 BlindKill wrote:
i tried learning it...... but its just tmi

Its in invaluable tool, especially for new Terran players, If you want to get good at the game you cant throw it off as "it's tmi wahh wahh"

also have some walloffs i made a long time ago i'll post here in a moment!

These are all for Outsider i believe
+ Show Spoiler +

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Fairly sure all are ling/zealot proof



These are for Destination :

+ Show Spoiler +
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Both ling/zealot proof


The destination one is wrong, depot placement all wrong Even though they work, but.. ye

I don't see how they're wrong? they both work. Sure i could move the depots up and put the barracks forward, but they still work


Not wrong, they wall off the back minerals, too.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
August 07 2012 18:49 GMT
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On August 08 2012 03:38 arb wrote:
I don't see how they're wrong? they both work. Sure i could move the depots up and put the barracks forward, but they still work


The middle depot has a lot of outer surface area to be attacked by lings. That would be my concern.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
August 07 2012 18:50 GMT
#12
nah, those outsider ones aren't ling proof, only zealot as far as i can tell.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
August 07 2012 20:35 GMT
#13
You are my saving grace.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
August 07 2012 20:47 GMT
#14
On August 08 2012 03:50 Metal[x] wrote:
nah, those outsider ones aren't ling proof, only zealot as far as i can tell.


They are not ling proof. Not I that's made them either. I've focused on making as ling proof as human possible. Places where lings get in are marked with a red line.
C'est la vie.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
August 07 2012 21:24 GMT
#15
I'm slowly starting to update the pictures so they are big in the spoiler too Be patient please.
C'est la vie.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 06:41:30
August 08 2012 06:27 GMT
#16
On August 08 2012 03:50 Metal[x] wrote:
nah, those outsider ones aren't ling proof, only zealot as far as i can tell.

The top one on outsider is not ling proof, for the bottom position, i shoulda just dug up my old post on them l0l0l
Mmm neither is the bottom one, the middle one im fairly certain is just by the depot positioning.

Also the walls on Destination may be weird, but making a ling proof wall ont hat map isnt rocket science.
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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 08 2012 06:44 GMT
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ty for the walls pics

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and change forrest to fortress =)
ace hwaiting!!
Le French
Profile Joined December 2011
France782 Posts
August 08 2012 07:26 GMT
#18
Merci for this
Ca va?
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 08 2012 08:01 GMT
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This one is ling tight ? :o
Was it the same wall used by Fantasy vs Effort when Effort went ling-all in and tried to build an extractor to make it not ling proof anymore ?

Thanks for your work !
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NuttyFudgesicle
Profile Joined December 2010
United States29 Posts
August 08 2012 08:22 GMT
#20
Here is an older very well done terran walling guide with screen shots for further reference.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=73364
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
August 08 2012 12:57 GMT
#21
On August 08 2012 17:22 NuttyFudgesicle wrote:
Here is an older very well done terran walling guide with screen shots for further reference.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=73364


All that is pretty much stolen from liquidpedia's site.
C'est la vie.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
August 08 2012 12:57 GMT
#22
On August 08 2012 17:01 endy wrote:
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This one is ling tight ? :o
Was it the same wall used by Fantasy vs Effort when Effort went ling-all in and tried to build an extractor to make it not ling proof anymore ?

Thanks for your work !


I tried with a ghost, and it could not get in.. So let's say it's 90% sure
C'est la vie.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 08 2012 15:59 GMT
#23
On August 08 2012 21:57 MaD[AoV] wrote:
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On August 08 2012 17:22 NuttyFudgesicle wrote:
Here is an older very well done terran walling guide with screen shots for further reference.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=73364


All that is pretty much stolen from liquidpedia's site.


The other way around, in fact.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 08 2012 16:28 GMT
#24
On August 08 2012 03:38 arb wrote:
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On August 08 2012 00:47 MaD[AoV] wrote:
The destination one is wrong, depot placement all wrong Even though they work, but.. ye

I don't see how they're wrong? they both work. Sure i could move the depots up and put the barracks forward, but they still work

it's not wrong, just the other placement is slightly better
as someone else said the middle depot has a less area for repairing and more room for zealots/lings/dts/w.e
also later on it's slightly harder to move units in and out of your base
not a big deal but every little bit helps yo
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 08 2012 16:49 GMT
#25
On August 09 2012 01:28 Dead9 wrote:
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On August 08 2012 03:38 arb wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:47 MaD[AoV] wrote:
The destination one is wrong, depot placement all wrong Even though they work, but.. ye

I don't see how they're wrong? they both work. Sure i could move the depots up and put the barracks forward, but they still work

it's not wrong, just the other placement is slightly better
as someone else said the middle depot has a less area for repairing and more room for zealots/lings/dts/w.e
also later on it's slightly harder to move units in and out of your base
not a big deal but every little bit helps yo

The only time you should be walling on destination anyway imo is vs toss or if you're doing mech(which is kinda eh imo)
And even then i still never wall unless its doing mech, since imo, running marines through sim city in your base(easily set up with a barracks+ first depot vs toss) is alot better.

But Idk, all that only worked for me at C rank and i never really played any higher than that when i did play(10 seasons ago or whatever)
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