• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:36
CEST 15:36
KST 22:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League31Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1275.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact No more sc2 streamers on team liquid? Terran AddOns placement How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Practice Partners (Official) Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] [Recap] Hive ZvZ in MonstarZ vs Dreams
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9268 users

Terran Walls for Python and FS

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:27:04
May 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#1
I know there is a lot threads and what not of walls around the wide web, but it seems like they've been forgotten.

Hope this thread is of any use for all you Terran players.

Created by LRM)MADiNHO

Please feel to comment and post your own walls if there is any better at any location, or if you want me to show walls on a different map. Enjoy!

Here are the walls liquidpedia is suggestion:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Python
and
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Fighting_Spirit

And I can only say that you must be drunk if you think theirs are better than these ones
Python
[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Not ling proof, but zealots cannot get in and you don't need to lift up to get the rines in.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

Fighting Spirit
[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Not ling proof, I usually use this wall TvsP.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Ling proof.

[image loading]
Ling proof. But you'll never get time to make a factory to get to make a armory.

[image loading]
Lings can only get in where the red line is.
C'est la vie.
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
May 19 2012 02:09 GMT
#2
Hmm
Never knew Academy with Depot side by side could make a ling proof wall. O.o
TY
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
May 19 2012 02:13 GMT
#3
2012 and could this be actually the first thread on TL about terran wall in 2 of the most epic maps of BW.

Thanks for this!
BSOD
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 19 2012 02:18 GMT
#4
liquipedia has all the wall in pics you could need, check the map pages they have the walls for the races.
dude bro.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#5
On May 19 2012 11:18 heliusx wrote:
liquipedia has all the wall in pics you could need, check the map pages they have the walls for the races.

true, but some of these walls are not there, and if you take Python @12 location, this is their suggestion: [image loading] Where lings can get in two places instead of none -.-
C'est la vie.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:30:03
May 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#6
are you sure the rax fact wall on python is right? i always believed rax on top of fact made it ling tight?

edit- i do like the first wall you have shown. less room for units to sit on top of ramp to attack you. i'll start using it
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:31:29
May 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#7
On May 19 2012 11:25 MaD[AoV] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:18 heliusx wrote:
liquipedia has all the wall in pics you could need, check the map pages they have the walls for the races.

true, but some of these walls are not there, and if you take Python @12 location, this is their suggestion: [image loading] Where lings can get in two places instead of none -.-


what an awesome opportunity to fix it and contribute! :D i prefer to put the two depots on top myself @12 no lings! no clue why they would suggest that wall its bad.
dude bro.
aegisabcde
Profile Joined November 2008
United States145 Posts
May 19 2012 02:30 GMT
#8
Wow. It turns out academy by almost everything forms a zealot tight wall.
It also forms a a ling tight wall except to the left of barracks and side of bunker.
Great find.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 19 2012 02:36 GMT
#9
On May 19 2012 11:29 Metal[x] wrote:
are you sure the rax fact wall on python is right? i always believed rax on top of fact made it ling tight?

edit- i do like the first wall you have shown. less room for units to sit on top of ramp to attack you. i'll start using it


Both are ling proof yes
C'est la vie.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10570 Posts
May 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#10
but no1 walls in with academy... lol
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 19 2012 02:41 GMT
#11
On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

Why not? I do it all the time.
C'est la vie.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 19 2012 02:43 GMT
#12
On May 19 2012 11:41 MaD[AoV] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

Why not? I do it all the time.

well if u wall with acad thats a significant delay to your wall.
dude bro.
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
May 19 2012 02:45 GMT
#13
On May 19 2012 11:43 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:41 MaD[AoV] wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

Why not? I do it all the time.

well if u wall with acad thats a significant delay to your wall.

Yep, especially in tvp were u kind of delay ur academy after expo and in tvz depends on ur build but i would say after u already an expo unless its a 1 base push.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:49:52
May 19 2012 02:49 GMT
#14
On May 19 2012 11:45 Obelisco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:43 heliusx wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:41 MaD[AoV] wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

Why not? I do it all the time.

well if u wall with acad thats a significant delay to your wall.

Yep, especially in tvp were u kind of delay ur academy after expo and in tvz depends on ur build but i would say after u already an expo unless its a 1 base push.


Academy wall I mostly use in 2on2s, where often a zerg is doing 9pool. Advantages is that I get early scan/stim and macro from 2 racks into 3.

And vs P I never use academy wall since I dont need ling tight, only zeal tight
C'est la vie.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 19 2012 02:59 GMT
#15
Yes they're ling proof, but are they GHOST PROOF??
+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding, cool stuff. I'm not sure if you really need a ling-proof wall to begin with, though...
:)
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
May 19 2012 03:17 GMT
#16
haha the academy walls are so oldschool. I used them always on LT.
small dicks have great firepower
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 19 2012 04:07 GMT
#17
Why would you have an academy in your wall? You would only wall if you're going mech, and if you're going mech you won't have have an academy for a long time. And even a factory wall wouldn't get up in time to stop zealots or scouting probes.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 19 2012 04:13 GMT
#18
On May 19 2012 13:07 writer22816 wrote:
Why would you have an academy in your wall? You would only wall if you're going mech, and if you're going mech you won't have have an academy for a long time. And even a factory wall wouldn't get up in time to stop zealots or scouting probes.

It's a numerous of games I've won vs Terrans who can't wall for shit, and when you make factory wall of course you have supporting marines behind it, you don't wait for first vult/siege (obviously) As I mention further up, I mostly use academy walls in 2on2 to prevent 9pool rush, and even if I make academy instead of 3 depots, it doesn't slow my tech that much down.
C'est la vie.
Kliedxl
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada6 Posts
May 19 2012 05:12 GMT
#19
Yes,terran can wallof and totally nulyfil the only protoss have more than terran.The only better unit protoss have is zealot and it obvious that game is tricked so that terran always win anyway.There is no glory to win as terran because the obvious and ridiculus range advantage over the other race that get melee fighter as first unit available and also the ridiculus advantage of firerate and combined with stim and godly dammage of tank especially if you look at the range they get.If the people that watch starcraft dont think terran is cheating the game well i might loosing my time writing this message...

User was banned for this post.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 19 2012 05:15 GMT
#20
On May 19 2012 14:12 Kliedxl wrote:
Yes,terran can wallof and totally nulyfil the only protoss have more than terran.The only better unit protoss have is zealot and it obvious that game is tricked so that terran always win anyway.There is no glory to win as terran because the obvious and ridiculus range advantage over the other race that get melee fighter as first unit available and also the ridiculus advantage of firerate and combined with stim and godly dammage of tank especially if you look at the range they get.If the people that watch starcraft dont think terran is cheating the game well i might loosing my time writing this message...

lol as much as i dont want to enteratain such a rediculous claim ill leave it at this. stasis and recall, shuttles of hts and zlots this is how you beat terran campers.
dude bro.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
22:00
King of the Hill #265
EmpressLilyy29
Liquipedia
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
Not-Summer Championship
WardiTV685
TaKeTV 272
TKL 225
IndyStarCraft 224
Liquipedia
AI Arena Tournament
01:00
Swiss - Round 6
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 423
IndyStarCraft 229
TKL 225
SHIN 44
MindelVK 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 60592
Calm 3948
EffOrt 899
Horang2 801
Mini 786
Soma 566
firebathero 468
Stork 382
actioN 322
BeSt 295
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 260
Last 160
Hyuk 147
Snow 133
Zeus 110
ggaemo 108
Shinee 92
Leta 70
Free 65
Sharp 65
Hyun 60
Pusan 51
Sea.KH 51
910 46
PianO 43
hero 42
Sexy 35
ToSsGirL 33
Killer 32
Creator 26
JYJ 24
Sacsri 20
Hm[arnc] 17
Barracks 16
HiyA 16
Bishop 12
yabsab 11
sorry 9
Rock 8
Trap 6
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Gorgc2906
Dendi933
420jenkins232
syndereN133
Counter-Strike
x6flipin345
Other Games
singsing2575
B2W.Neo1398
Beastyqt379
XaKoH 335
Khaldor317
Mlord246
DeMusliM237
crisheroes200
Fuzer 71
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 15
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4731
• WagamamaTV665
League of Legends
• Nemesis2537
Upcoming Events
IPSL
2h 24m
BSL Open Qualifier
5h 24m
WardiTV Weekly
21h 24m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 21h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
FEL
5 days
FEL
6 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.