Terran Walls for Python and FS

On May 19 2012 11:18 heliusx wrote:
liquipedia has all the wall in pics you could need, check the map pages they have the walls for the races.

On May 19 2012 11:25 MaD[AoV] wrote:

true, but some of these walls are not there, and if you take Python @12 location, this is their suggestion: Where lings can get in two places instead of none -.-

On May 19 2012 11:29 Metal[x] wrote:
are you sure the rax fact wall on python is right? i always believed rax on top of fact made it ling tight?

edit- i do like the first wall you have shown. less room for units to sit on top of ramp to attack you. i'll start using it

On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

On May 19 2012 11:41 MaD[AoV] wrote:

Why not? I do it all the time.

On May 19 2012 11:43 heliusx wrote:

well if u wall with acad thats a significant delay to your wall.

On May 19 2012 11:45 Obelisco wrote:

Yep, especially in tvp were u kind of delay ur academy after expo and in tvz depends on ur build but i would say after u already an expo unless its a 1 base push.

On May 19 2012 13:07 writer22816 wrote:
Why would you have an academy in your wall? You would only wall if you're going mech, and if you're going mech you won't have have an academy for a long time. And even a factory wall wouldn't get up in time to stop zealots or scouting probes.

On May 19 2012 14:12 Kliedxl wrote:
Yes,terran can wallof and totally nulyfil the only protoss have more than terran.The only better unit protoss have is zealot and it obvious that game is tricked so that terran always win anyway.There is no glory to win as terran because the obvious and ridiculus range advantage over the other race that get melee fighter as first unit available and also the ridiculus advantage of firerate and combined with stim and godly dammage of tank especially if you look at the range they get.If the people that watch starcraft dont think terran is cheating the game well i might loosing my time writing this message...

On May 19 2012 10:58 MaD[AoV] wrote:

Ling proof.

On May 19 2012 10:58 MaD[AoV] wrote:

Not ling proof, but zealots cannot get in and you don't need to lift up to get the rines in.

On May 19 2012 13:13 MaD[AoV] wrote:

It's a numerous of games I've won vs Terrans who can't wall for shit, and when you make factory wall of course you have supporting marines behind it, you don't wait for first vult/siege (obviously) As I mention further up, I mostly use academy walls in 2on2 to prevent 9pool rush, and even if I make academy instead of 3 depots, it doesn't slow my tech that much down.

On May 20 2012 02:44 bITt.mAN wrote:
I LOVE theorycrafting with Terran, one of them is working out all sorts of awesome building placements. Like, sometimes, I play around by myself in a map designing the most perfect factory layout (e.g. on Destination), abusive walls (e.g. Outsider @6, DT tight wall-off natural with 1 Depot 1Ebay and a Turret +the CC). Single-player, pick Protoss v T + Z, cheat like crazy, MindControl their workers = unlimited supply of SCV's AND Zealots + Zerglings!

So this is one I think all Terrans should learn to abuse:




You're welcome intrepid Terran players on dear Python!
Both are Ling tight (YES they can't run through the gap between Rax and Fact! however if your marines are right on the edge of that gap Lings can still eat them so watch it), and from now on I want to see EVERY Terran wall like this @3 because it will fuck shit up in your Z opponent's mind and make him think it's vulnerable when it's not.

Do the top v Z (e.g 1v1), because you won't have time to start Machine shop before Lings arrive. The bottom one is Protoss-tight as-is (depot can be one hex up works just as well, but this way is more efficient), pop down the machine shop to prevent ling run-ins.

The best thing about these is that they're really easy to remember (last night on Python I wanted to attempt them, but I didn't remember how and was afraid of screwing it up, but now that I worked it out), YOU CAN DO IT TO! See that skeleton doo-dad? Imagine he's unbuildable, for the first type put your depots above and to the left, second type put it below. Now go collect those alien tears!

They're quite exposed, yes, but also quite exposed to repairuuu. The most important thing is you get your first 1 (if not 2) marines inside the wall ASAP. Also your vultures/tanks pop on the outside, meaning if they control that area, those units are dead, so try and prevent that. I kinda feel like doing a guide on "how to find your own walls", esp including ebays and turrets....


Bonus:

Ling-tight. Something something my sex appeal...


EDIT: Damm! I forgot to mention why I had my Sci Facility landing-interface ugly floating over the ramp. Because it shows you the position of the rax, and how to remember how to place it. For normal wall on this type of ramp I always remember "hover depot image over ramp exit until turns red, then align the right side of the depot with that red block, and move one hex to the right." Well for placing the rax, hover right aligned with right, and place 1 hex to the Left. EZPZ

On May 20 2012 12:05 Le French wrote:
Academy wall in looks so vanilla. Although vs. Protoss it is not really adviseable as you need to delay Acad for expo fac.