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Terran Walls for Python and FS

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MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:27:04
May 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#1
I know there is a lot threads and what not of walls around the wide web, but it seems like they've been forgotten.

Hope this thread is of any use for all you Terran players.

Created by LRM)MADiNHO

Please feel to comment and post your own walls if there is any better at any location, or if you want me to show walls on a different map. Enjoy!

Here are the walls liquidpedia is suggestion:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Python
and
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Fighting_Spirit

And I can only say that you must be drunk if you think theirs are better than these ones
Python
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Ling proof.

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Not ling proof, but zealots cannot get in and you don't need to lift up to get the rines in.

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Ling proof.

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Ling proof.

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Ling proof.

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Ling proof.

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Ling proof.

Fighting Spirit
[image loading]
Ling proof.

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Not ling proof, I usually use this wall TvsP.

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Ling proof.

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Ling proof.

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Ling proof.

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Ling proof.

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Ling proof. But you'll never get time to make a factory to get to make a armory.

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Lings can only get in where the red line is.
C'est la vie.
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
May 19 2012 02:09 GMT
#2
Hmm
Never knew Academy with Depot side by side could make a ling proof wall. O.o
TY
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
May 19 2012 02:13 GMT
#3
2012 and could this be actually the first thread on TL about terran wall in 2 of the most epic maps of BW.

Thanks for this!
BSOD
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 19 2012 02:18 GMT
#4
liquipedia has all the wall in pics you could need, check the map pages they have the walls for the races.
dude bro.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#5
On May 19 2012 11:18 heliusx wrote:
liquipedia has all the wall in pics you could need, check the map pages they have the walls for the races.

true, but some of these walls are not there, and if you take Python @12 location, this is their suggestion: [image loading] Where lings can get in two places instead of none -.-
C'est la vie.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:30:03
May 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#6
are you sure the rax fact wall on python is right? i always believed rax on top of fact made it ling tight?

edit- i do like the first wall you have shown. less room for units to sit on top of ramp to attack you. i'll start using it
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:31:29
May 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#7
On May 19 2012 11:25 MaD[AoV] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:18 heliusx wrote:
liquipedia has all the wall in pics you could need, check the map pages they have the walls for the races.

true, but some of these walls are not there, and if you take Python @12 location, this is their suggestion: [image loading] Where lings can get in two places instead of none -.-


what an awesome opportunity to fix it and contribute! :D i prefer to put the two depots on top myself @12 no lings! no clue why they would suggest that wall its bad.
dude bro.
aegisabcde
Profile Joined November 2008
United States145 Posts
May 19 2012 02:30 GMT
#8
Wow. It turns out academy by almost everything forms a zealot tight wall.
It also forms a a ling tight wall except to the left of barracks and side of bunker.
Great find.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 19 2012 02:36 GMT
#9
On May 19 2012 11:29 Metal[x] wrote:
are you sure the rax fact wall on python is right? i always believed rax on top of fact made it ling tight?

edit- i do like the first wall you have shown. less room for units to sit on top of ramp to attack you. i'll start using it


Both are ling proof yes
C'est la vie.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10149 Posts
May 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#10
but no1 walls in with academy... lol
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MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 19 2012 02:41 GMT
#11
On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

Why not? I do it all the time.
C'est la vie.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 19 2012 02:43 GMT
#12
On May 19 2012 11:41 MaD[AoV] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

Why not? I do it all the time.

well if u wall with acad thats a significant delay to your wall.
dude bro.
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
May 19 2012 02:45 GMT
#13
On May 19 2012 11:43 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:41 MaD[AoV] wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

Why not? I do it all the time.

well if u wall with acad thats a significant delay to your wall.

Yep, especially in tvp were u kind of delay ur academy after expo and in tvz depends on ur build but i would say after u already an expo unless its a 1 base push.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:49:52
May 19 2012 02:49 GMT
#14
On May 19 2012 11:45 Obelisco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:43 heliusx wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:41 MaD[AoV] wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
but no1 walls in with academy... lol

Why not? I do it all the time.

well if u wall with acad thats a significant delay to your wall.

Yep, especially in tvp were u kind of delay ur academy after expo and in tvz depends on ur build but i would say after u already an expo unless its a 1 base push.


Academy wall I mostly use in 2on2s, where often a zerg is doing 9pool. Advantages is that I get early scan/stim and macro from 2 racks into 3.

And vs P I never use academy wall since I dont need ling tight, only zeal tight
C'est la vie.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 19 2012 02:59 GMT
#15
Yes they're ling proof, but are they GHOST PROOF??
+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding, cool stuff. I'm not sure if you really need a ling-proof wall to begin with, though...
:)
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
May 19 2012 03:17 GMT
#16
haha the academy walls are so oldschool. I used them always on LT.
small dicks have great firepower
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 19 2012 04:07 GMT
#17
Why would you have an academy in your wall? You would only wall if you're going mech, and if you're going mech you won't have have an academy for a long time. And even a factory wall wouldn't get up in time to stop zealots or scouting probes.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
MaD[AoV]
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway170 Posts
May 19 2012 04:13 GMT
#18
On May 19 2012 13:07 writer22816 wrote:
Why would you have an academy in your wall? You would only wall if you're going mech, and if you're going mech you won't have have an academy for a long time. And even a factory wall wouldn't get up in time to stop zealots or scouting probes.

It's a numerous of games I've won vs Terrans who can't wall for shit, and when you make factory wall of course you have supporting marines behind it, you don't wait for first vult/siege (obviously) As I mention further up, I mostly use academy walls in 2on2 to prevent 9pool rush, and even if I make academy instead of 3 depots, it doesn't slow my tech that much down.
C'est la vie.
Kliedxl
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada6 Posts
May 19 2012 05:12 GMT
#19
Yes,terran can wallof and totally nulyfil the only protoss have more than terran.The only better unit protoss have is zealot and it obvious that game is tricked so that terran always win anyway.There is no glory to win as terran because the obvious and ridiculus range advantage over the other race that get melee fighter as first unit available and also the ridiculus advantage of firerate and combined with stim and godly dammage of tank especially if you look at the range they get.If the people that watch starcraft dont think terran is cheating the game well i might loosing my time writing this message...

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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 19 2012 05:15 GMT
#20
On May 19 2012 14:12 Kliedxl wrote:
Yes,terran can wallof and totally nulyfil the only protoss have more than terran.The only better unit protoss have is zealot and it obvious that game is tricked so that terran always win anyway.There is no glory to win as terran because the obvious and ridiculus range advantage over the other race that get melee fighter as first unit available and also the ridiculus advantage of firerate and combined with stim and godly dammage of tank especially if you look at the range they get.If the people that watch starcraft dont think terran is cheating the game well i might loosing my time writing this message...

lol as much as i dont want to enteratain such a rediculous claim ill leave it at this. stasis and recall, shuttles of hts and zlots this is how you beat terran campers.
dude bro.
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