In a silly attempt to get back on to the topic of the OP
I will be playing
and
+Heroes of Might and Magic & Civilization II. ICCup for BW is still daunting for me, but I will still play LANs with my friends, since they're even worse than I am. We'll relive the history of the game together.
On May 03 2012 12:07 Taku wrote: Honestly the only way for me to even consider following into SC2 would be for Blizzard to make a public statement admitting that they failed and messed up the entire Starcraft franchise with sc2. I don't hold much of a grudge against the scene itself but I just can't stand Blizzard anymore.
pretty much. Fuck Blizzard nowadays. I've been a bliz fanboy since d1 and thought I'd always be. Then they took a big fat dump on my face
As someone who just knew Starcraft but never played it much until SC2 came out - was too busy playing UT99 and Age of Empires - i just wanted to say that you guys have to take things that people say on these forums with a grain of salt, and also that i respect the passion you have for this game. I understand what you're feeling pretty well, because my Age of Empires II was replaced by an inferior AoE III and UT99 was replaced by 3 games that failed to be as good (UT2003, UT2004 and UT4 - where with the last one they actually admited the 2 UT's before sucked, then tried to go back to the origins but still failed).
Anyway, a lot of people that come to this forums are just immature kids. Coming to the BW forum and praising the end of BW, or that they hope BW pros will suck in SC2 shouldn't piss you. Just feel sorry for the guy that posted it because he knows no better than be immature.
If i were to give you my advice, since i've been through what you are going through now twice, i'd say to ignore SC2 people criticising you, and try to understand that many of them only ever played SC2. When i tell some AoE3 fans how better AoE2 is, they don't believe me, but i know both games, so i can compare, but they don't have any comparation, so for them AoE 3 is like their first girlfriend, and she's the better in the world (at least while the passion lasts).
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
This is simply not true anymore. Only in TvP do you see only bio-centric play-styles. Hopefully that will change when new units arrive. Either way, your assessment of Terran is very outdated.
More on topic: I hope that after the BW scene dies in Korea that there will be some more foreign tournaments, even if they don't have money on the line. There is a vocal minority of SC2 fans that think BW should die, but I know many others feel reverently about the game. Most people initially got the new game because of BW, even if they only played customs and BGH. I never see any BW tournaments streamed on TL but maybe when there is no BW in korea to watch we can see more of them pop up. I will certainly watch.
On May 03 2012 12:07 Taku wrote: Honestly the only way for me to even consider following into SC2 would be for Blizzard to make a public statement admitting that they failed and messed up the entire Starcraft franchise with sc2. I don't hold much of a grudge against the scene itself but I just can't stand Blizzard anymore.
pretty much. Fuck Blizzard nowadays. I've been a bliz fanboy since d1 and thought I'd always be. Then they took a big fat dump on my face
EDIT: im a corsair ><
i kind of agree.. yet i know ill be hopelessly addicted and allured by d3 genius.. i think to describe them in general: blizz is still very good like old days, but a different kind of good. now its devious, twisted form of good, where they suck us in with raw knowledge of how human brain addiction mechanics work, rather than creating godly gameplay
On May 03 2012 12:07 Taku wrote: Honestly the only way for me to even consider following into SC2 would be for Blizzard to make a public statement admitting that they failed and messed up the entire Starcraft franchise with sc2. I don't hold much of a grudge against the scene itself but I just can't stand Blizzard anymore.
pretty much. Fuck Blizzard nowadays. I've been a bliz fanboy since d1 and thought I'd always be. Then they took a big fat dump on my face
EDIT: im a corsair ><
i kind of agree.. yet i know ill be hopelessly addicted and allured by d3 genius.. i think to describe them in general: blizz is still very good like old days, but a different kind of good. now its devious, twisted form of good, where they suck us in with raw knowledge of how human brain addiction mechanics work, rather than creating godly gameplay
That is the biggest bullshit i seen so far from threads like this, you win good sir
On May 03 2012 12:07 Taku wrote: Honestly the only way for me to even consider following into SC2 would be for Blizzard to make a public statement admitting that they failed and messed up the entire Starcraft franchise with sc2. I don't hold much of a grudge against the scene itself but I just can't stand Blizzard anymore.
pretty much. Fuck Blizzard nowadays. I've been a bliz fanboy since d1 and thought I'd always be. Then they took a big fat dump on my face
EDIT: im a corsair ><
i kind of agree.. yet i know ill be hopelessly addicted and allured by d3 genius.. i think to describe them in general: blizz is still very good like old days, but a different kind of good. now its devious, twisted form of good, where they suck us in with raw knowledge of how human brain addiction mechanics work, rather than creating godly gameplay
That is the biggest bullshit i seen so far from threads like this, you win good sir
Idk man, after the second expansion of WoW, all my friends are very upset at the company because they only focus on making money instead of producing something unique. They raged at the fact that the gameplay have decreased in difficulty and less challenges were implemented in it. So I can sort of vouch for the above poster.
On May 03 2012 12:07 Taku wrote: Honestly the only way for me to even consider following into SC2 would be for Blizzard to make a public statement admitting that they failed and messed up the entire Starcraft franchise with sc2. I don't hold much of a grudge against the scene itself but I just can't stand Blizzard anymore.
pretty much. Fuck Blizzard nowadays. I've been a bliz fanboy since d1 and thought I'd always be. Then they took a big fat dump on my face
EDIT: im a corsair ><
i kind of agree.. yet i know ill be hopelessly addicted and allured by d3 genius.. i think to describe them in general: blizz is still very good like old days, but a different kind of good. now its devious, twisted form of good, where they suck us in with raw knowledge of how human brain addiction mechanics work, rather than creating godly gameplay
I'd like to know why you guys feel the way you do about Blizzard. In my opinion they're still one of the top developers out there. I like the way they handle balance changes in SC2 and have almost always made the game better in incremental ways.
My only issue is that they don't acknowledge some of the inherent design flaws about SC2 (in my opinion, units die too quickly which makes micro harder/less valuable, makes splash damage too effective and contributes heavily to the deathball problems).
Still though, I find them to be much preferable to most companies.
Since I only got into the scene in 2009, I still have a lot of old VODs to watch. Once I've run through those though, I have no idea...Guess I'll wait and see how this shift turns out. I only wish I had known about Brood War earlier.
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro, but you really dont know what you are talking about.
Sorry but if you were a broodwar player and played terran at D+ level you would have understand what he was talking about in broodwar you can play either pure mech with +3/+3 weapon and armour deathball style on 3 bases or going for a bio/mech push out . Does sc2 terran war machine have the capability it once have in broodwar ? Nothing beats the feeling of seeing your tanks and vultures rolling out on the map and destroying everything in it's range . Sadly you are just assuming he only played beta and what if he is a Diamond rank terran player ? don't be quick to judge a person just because he voice his opinion.
Terran sc2 war machine is quite pitiful compared to it's predecessor in terms of firepower and immobility.Also as a long time terran player from broodwar the removal of vultures in sc2 story line is completely retarded . Yeah remove this inexpensive but powerful versatile hot wheels which strike terror to every open base which is not guarded get's thrown out just because it's leaking radioactive waste huh ? Since when does red neck in space has become much of a environmentalist ?
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
@Sawamura Strictly speaking, he's not entirely wrong. I do hear from people that Terran is the most strategically diverse race in SC2.
Though, being "most strategic in SC2" hardly means anything, to some of us. Something along the same line as "Best player in my Bronze League division", for some of you.
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
@Sawamura Strictly speaking, he's not entirely wrong. I do hear from people that Terran is the most strategically diverse race in SC2.
Though, being "most strategic in SC2" hardly means anything, to some of us. Something along the same line as "Best player in my Bronze League division", for some of you.
Yeah if you mean going marine + something for every game means having a strategically diverse race . If i wanted to go bio + mech in any match up in broodwar I could have done the same thing . It's not that I don't like going bio but if I wanted I could have done the same thing in every match up marines + tanks + medic . It's because sc2 unit composition for terran basically is made to be that way . Have you seen pure mech in sc2 in any matchup besides TvT ? what about TvP and TvZ it will be suicidal. In broodwar you could go mech in every matchup.
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
@Sawamura Strictly speaking, he's not entirely wrong. I do hear from people that Terran is the most strategically diverse race in SC2.
Though, being "most strategic in SC2" hardly means anything, to some of us. Something along the same line as "Best player in my Bronze League division", for some of you.
Yeah if you mean going marine + something for every game means having a strategically diverse race . If i wanted to go bio + mech in any match up in broodwar I could have done the same thing . It's not that I don't like going bio but if I wanted I could have done the same thing in every match up marines + tanks + medic . It's because sc2 unit composition for terran basically is made to be that way . Have you seen pure mech in sc2 in any matchup besides TvT ? what about TvP and TvZ it will be suicidal. In broodwar you could go mech in every matchup.
Mech in TvZ is good in sc2 actually, not used as often as marine/tank/medivac but still very powerful in the hands of a good player.
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
@Sawamura Strictly speaking, he's not entirely wrong. I do hear from people that Terran is the most strategically diverse race in SC2.
Though, being "most strategic in SC2" hardly means anything, to some of us. Something along the same line as "Best player in my Bronze League division", for some of you.
Yeah if you mean going marine + something for every game means having a strategically diverse race . If i wanted to go bio + mech in any match up in broodwar I could have done the same thing . It's not that I don't like going bio but if I wanted I could have done the same thing in every match up marines + tanks + medic . It's because sc2 unit composition for terran basically is made to be that way . Have you seen pure mech in sc2 in any matchup besides TvT ? what about TvP and TvZ it will be suicidal. In broodwar you could go mech in every matchup.
Mech is used often vs Zerg in SC2, you don't know what you're talking about.
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
@Sawamura Strictly speaking, he's not entirely wrong. I do hear from people that Terran is the most strategically diverse race in SC2.
Though, being "most strategic in SC2" hardly means anything, to some of us. Something along the same line as "Best player in my Bronze League division", for some of you.
Yeah if you mean going marine + something for every game means having a strategically diverse race . If i wanted to go bio + mech in any match up in broodwar I could have done the same thing . It's not that I don't like going bio but if I wanted I could have done the same thing in every match up marines + tanks + medic . It's because sc2 unit composition for terran basically is made to be that way . Have you seen pure mech in sc2 in any matchup besides TvT ? what about TvP and TvZ it will be suicidal. In broodwar you could go mech in every matchup.
Mech is used often vs Zerg in SC2, you don't know what you're talking about.
Do you know the meaning of Pure mech ? No bio just pure metal ground units .
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
@Sawamura Strictly speaking, he's not entirely wrong. I do hear from people that Terran is the most strategically diverse race in SC2.
Though, being "most strategic in SC2" hardly means anything, to some of us. Something along the same line as "Best player in my Bronze League division", for some of you.
Yeah if you mean going marine + something for every game means having a strategically diverse race . If i wanted to go bio + mech in any match up in broodwar I could have done the same thing . It's not that I don't like going bio but if I wanted I could have done the same thing in every match up marines + tanks + medic . It's because sc2 unit composition for terran basically is made to be that way . Have you seen pure mech in sc2 in any matchup besides TvT ? what about TvP and TvZ it will be suicidal. In broodwar you could go mech in every matchup.
Mech is used often vs Zerg in SC2, you don't know what you're talking about.
Do you know the meaning of Pure mech ? No bio just pure metal ground units .
Like thor, tank, helion, which is used often vs Zerg?
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
@Sawamura Strictly speaking, he's not entirely wrong. I do hear from people that Terran is the most strategically diverse race in SC2.
Though, being "most strategic in SC2" hardly means anything, to some of us. Something along the same line as "Best player in my Bronze League division", for some of you.
Yeah if you mean going marine + something for every game means having a strategically diverse race . If i wanted to go bio + mech in any match up in broodwar I could have done the same thing . It's not that I don't like going bio but if I wanted I could have done the same thing in every match up marines + tanks + medic . It's because sc2 unit composition for terran basically is made to be that way . Have you seen pure mech in sc2 in any matchup besides TvT ? what about TvP and TvZ it will be suicidal. In broodwar you could go mech in every matchup.
Mech is used often vs Zerg in SC2, you don't know what you're talking about.
Do you know the meaning of Pure mech ? No bio just pure metal ground units .
Like thor, tank, helion, which is used often vs Zerg?
Like vultures,tank,goliaths which is often use vs Zerg ? I am talking pure solid metal units relying on this composition without the need for marines . Show me a game of sc2 using only the said units vs Zerg and if you find it hard to imagine what I am saying here is a game of broodwar which mech is only used through out the whole game .
It's pretty and all but doesn't hold a candle to BW. I jumped on the SC2 bandwagon when beta came out and it wasn't too long before I realized how utterly lacking it is compared to BW. I stayed around for patch after patch thinking "this'll be the one that makes it great" and it just hasn't happened.
Honestly, the biggest disappointment is Terran.
I loved Terran in BW. It was such a great race to play. I feel bad for all the Terran BW fans moving to SC2 and how heartbroken they'll be to know that you play EVERY match up the same way.
BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO BIO
You can get into masters making marines, marauders, and medivacs. That's it - and many games medivacs will be optional.
Utterly heartbreaking.
To go from the dynamism of the Terran bio, bio/mech, mech, positional play of BW to SC2's marine/marauder faceroll style is just sad. It was - and still is - the biggest let-down of SC2 for me, a former Terran player. I imagine it will be for many of you as well.
EDIT: Spelling error.
Its hard to put that many factual errors and ignorant statements in a single post, quite a feat really. Terran is by far the deepest and most strategically diverse race in SC2. Thats a fact that even non-Terran players often bring up in balance discussions. "Bio only" and often optional medivacs? Complete and utter bullshit, you have to outplay your opponent by a large margin to win with that, especially in TvZ and TvT. You played 5 games in beta, congrats bro but you really dont know what you are talking about.
@Sawamura Strictly speaking, he's not entirely wrong. I do hear from people that Terran is the most strategically diverse race in SC2.
Though, being "most strategic in SC2" hardly means anything, to some of us. Something along the same line as "Best player in my Bronze League division", for some of you.
Yeah if you mean going marine + something for every game means having a strategically diverse race . If i wanted to go bio + mech in any match up in broodwar I could have done the same thing . It's not that I don't like going bio but if I wanted I could have done the same thing in every match up marines + tanks + medic . It's because sc2 unit composition for terran basically is made to be that way . Have you seen pure mech in sc2 in any matchup besides TvT ? what about TvP and TvZ it will be suicidal. In broodwar you could go mech in every matchup.
Mech is used often vs Zerg in SC2, you don't know what you're talking about.
Do you know the meaning of Pure mech ? No bio just pure metal ground units .
Like thor, tank, helion, which is used often vs Zerg?
There are also some 2-3base timings that allowing to win vs toss as well. So realistically it is available for about 2.5/3 matchups.
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