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Darth Saros
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic245 Posts
April 23 2012 21:32 GMT
#301
On April 24 2012 00:08 Sum41 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 12:01 Masheyoon wrote:
On April 23 2012 11:51 pyrogenetix wrote:
OSL sponsorship and running is much easier than PL. That beard and long hair guy who is self proclaimed Bisu's no.1 fan (let the hate roll in) is also a celebrity and has already announced in Korea that if OSL doesn't find a sponsor he will sponsor it himself.


OMG! Seriously?! I can't emphasize strongly enough on how happy that makes me! =D Bless this man's heart!

That's awesome O_O, that guy must be one of the best BW fans in the history!

Err...don't forget about Cho Hyun Min.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131731
Only BW...And everybody and your granny should know about CYBERPUNK 2077.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 23 2012 21:40 GMT
#302
On April 24 2012 01:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 00:48 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Guys KeSPA's tweet to a person asking when SK Planet Season II would start
"Nothing's for sure yet, but we're thinking in the middle of May." !!!!


but thats like mid OSL Ro16!!!

oh well, that means that the guy 2 posts up asking about Flash playing SC2 needs to wait a bit longer.


The level of play...

Please for God's sake, at least let OSL to finish before starting up another league. Or at least prohibit the participant to not practice any other games. ZerO even noticed the quality of games dropping due to having multiple of games to play with. I have never seen so many sloppy games in a row in my spectating routine as much as recently. Back in 2010, you could bet your arse that nobody would make similar mistakes.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
April 23 2012 21:42 GMT
#303
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
April 24 2012 00:50 GMT
#304
On April 24 2012 03:04 Jaevlaterran wrote:
I don't see how this changes anything really other than watching games. If I were a soccer player I wouldn't stop playing if the champions league was shut down.


You fail to understand that this is not champions league(a tournament) shutting down, it's your team(the guys that pay you) playing another sport.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
April 24 2012 01:47 GMT
#305
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage
dumchu
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
April 24 2012 02:01 GMT
#306
On April 24 2012 10:47 malady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage


It would, but imagine how over worked the TL mods would be trying to control lr threads. Think of the banlings!
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 24 2012 02:15 GMT
#307
On April 24 2012 10:47 malady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage


Well the thing is though, other than knowing rts fundamentals, being a BW pro doesn't automatically mean you will dominate in SC2. I think one of the biggest problems will be how BW pros transition to SC2 (what teams they will be placed on, what coaching and practicing environment), because the things that set BW pros apart beyond natural talent and mechanics is essentially the work ethic and practice environment. Unless the BW top players get transferred into a good training / coaching environment I find it really hard to believe that they can catch up to the top echelon in 1-2 months because knowledge of the evolving meta game is going to take a long time, especially seeing that some of the players don't even know what the new units or tech are.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
LEGAsee
Profile Joined January 2010
170 Posts
April 24 2012 02:35 GMT
#308
On April 24 2012 11:15 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 10:47 malady wrote:
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage


Well the thing is though, other than knowing rts fundamentals, being a BW pro doesn't automatically mean you will dominate in SC2. I think one of the biggest problems will be how BW pros transition to SC2 (what teams they will be placed on, what coaching and practicing environment), because the things that set BW pros apart beyond natural talent and mechanics is essentially the work ethic and practice environment. Unless the BW top players get transferred into a good training / coaching environment I find it really hard to believe that they can catch up to the top echelon in 1-2 months because knowledge of the evolving meta game is going to take a long time, especially seeing that some of the players don't even know what the new units or tech are.


They're staying on their own (much, much better funded) teams. Apparently they will be segregating the players, no non-bw pros get to participate, so that they are on relatively even footing. I'm sure by the time that stipulation is removed they will be the dominate force that is expected of them.
Brood War has been a part of our lives for the last 12 years. No, we don't want change.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 24 2012 02:39 GMT
#309
On April 24 2012 11:35 LEGAsee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 11:15 Caihead wrote:
On April 24 2012 10:47 malady wrote:
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage


Well the thing is though, other than knowing rts fundamentals, being a BW pro doesn't automatically mean you will dominate in SC2. I think one of the biggest problems will be how BW pros transition to SC2 (what teams they will be placed on, what coaching and practicing environment), because the things that set BW pros apart beyond natural talent and mechanics is essentially the work ethic and practice environment. Unless the BW top players get transferred into a good training / coaching environment I find it really hard to believe that they can catch up to the top echelon in 1-2 months because knowledge of the evolving meta game is going to take a long time, especially seeing that some of the players don't even know what the new units or tech are.


They're staying on their own (much, much better funded) teams. Apparently they will be segregating the players, no non-bw pros get to participate, so that they are on relatively even footing. I'm sure by the time that stipulation is removed they will be the dominate force that is expected of them.


Stars will get MVP back on their team
SKT with Boxer and MMA
STX getting their Tushin back
KHAN get Anyppi and that Rygul2 guy
Team 8 gets MC
And so on.
If they are really hoping to dominate in SC2, they need to bring these guys for practice.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 24 2012 02:50 GMT
#310
On April 24 2012 11:35 LEGAsee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 11:15 Caihead wrote:
On April 24 2012 10:47 malady wrote:
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage


Well the thing is though, other than knowing rts fundamentals, being a BW pro doesn't automatically mean you will dominate in SC2. I think one of the biggest problems will be how BW pros transition to SC2 (what teams they will be placed on, what coaching and practicing environment), because the things that set BW pros apart beyond natural talent and mechanics is essentially the work ethic and practice environment. Unless the BW top players get transferred into a good training / coaching environment I find it really hard to believe that they can catch up to the top echelon in 1-2 months because knowledge of the evolving meta game is going to take a long time, especially seeing that some of the players don't even know what the new units or tech are.


They're staying on their own (much, much better funded) teams. Apparently they will be segregating the players, no non-bw pros get to participate, so that they are on relatively even footing. I'm sure by the time that stipulation is removed they will be the dominate force that is expected of them.


That might actually be a terrible idea though, they at least need coaching and practice partners that already have been playing / coaching SC2 for a while. They would be at a severe disadvantage just because of lack of strategic understanding and not practicing against or preparing for the current optimal builds because the players dont know them.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
April 24 2012 02:53 GMT
#311
On April 24 2012 10:47 malady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage

Not sure if people will rage. The BW pro's are supposed to > everyone else.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
April 24 2012 03:15 GMT
#312
On April 24 2012 11:53 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 10:47 malady wrote:
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage

Not sure if people will rage. The BW pro's are supposed to > everyone else.



its not even about skill ceiling, sc2 is just far inferior as a spectator sport than bw. No doubt the bw legends will show that they are forces to be reckoned with, but if the way to win is to turtle 3 base and tech to hive, sit around with 15 bl, or make a bunch of colosus and storm on 3 base... it just won't be entertaining. Poor unit design mixed with the extremely high income rate just produces the most uninteresting games. TvP (almost always results in 200/200 slugfest), PvZ (either a timing from p or turtle mass bl vs mothership stareoff) , and soon to follow TVZ with this new ling infestor style and ghost nerf just make it terribly boring to watch. I am truly saddened that the switch even has to happen. Do the bw korean pros/coaches do not forsee this? or am I being overly critical? I thought bw had more money in it than sc2 in korea.. then why are they switching into less money and worse (spectator) game?

/rant
Question.?
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 24 2012 03:52 GMT
#313
Sad day because it's like an end of an era. SC2 just isn't the same. It doesn't have the magic of Brood War and won't replace Brood War. RIP Brood War progaming.
Cheers from one of it's best years =)
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 04:00:55
April 24 2012 03:58 GMT
#314
On April 24 2012 11:53 Za7oX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 10:47 malady wrote:
On April 24 2012 06:42 newvsoldschool wrote:
I will continue to spectate if BW progamers significantly increased the skill ceiling of SC2, and that they will dominate the SC2 scene 1-2 months after the transition.


lmao
you got a point I would watch sc2 if all the bw pros dominate
would be pretty funny to see all the butt hurt sc2 fans rage

Not sure if people will rage. The BW pro's are supposed to > everyone else.

Maybe, but I don't know. I mean, they might lose passion if they'll be forced to play something not BW just to earn money. I just hope that not a lot of players will retire and just stick to playing so that they'll still be around when the 2 games(hopefully) separate and BW can(hopefully) stand on its own again .
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
April 24 2012 05:40 GMT
#315
I like playing both.
I prefer to watch brood war.
How can I convert?
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10345 Posts
April 24 2012 05:53 GMT
#316
that's a bit disappointing, almost half will leave TL?
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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
April 24 2012 06:24 GMT
#317
What's our site traffic?
We spiked with starcraft 2's launch.
Are we trailing off?
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
April 24 2012 06:29 GMT
#318
Sad to see BW coming to an end but I think I've sorta fully transitioned to Dota 2 anyways.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
April 24 2012 07:12 GMT
#319
On April 24 2012 01:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 00:48 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Guys KeSPA's tweet to a person asking when SK Planet Season II would start
"Nothing's for sure yet, but we're thinking in the middle of May." !!!!


but thats like mid OSL Ro16!!!

oh well, that means that the guy 2 posts up asking about Flash playing SC2 needs to wait a bit longer.

oh shit.. so long still !!!

still good news tho
T H C makes ppl happy
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
April 24 2012 07:33 GMT
#320
Maybe BW elitist will become more humble? The time has come after all. It's a damn shame since I like to watch BW too, but dislike the BW elitist community so I kind feel good seeing their era coming to an end on the esports side of things.
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