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Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 23 2012 01:27 GMT
#261
I am excited for the switch. Can't wait to see Flash playing sc2 in proleague.
"let your freak flag fly"
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
April 23 2012 02:51 GMT
#262
Um... this is obviously not the last OSL and after that last PL grand final probably not the last PL either.

OSL sponsorship and running is much easier than PL. That beard and long hair guy who is self proclaimed Bisu's no.1 fan (let the hate roll in) is also a celebrity and has already announced in Korea that if OSL doesn't find a sponsor he will sponsor it himself.

BW will dwindle and fade but never eradicated. As long as there are still people on iccup and there is still activity in Korea, there is always a metagame to follow. This OSL has already shown that BW is still changing.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
April 23 2012 02:52 GMT
#263
On April 23 2012 10:14 Koenji wrote:
Love the BW scene but just couldn't get in to SCII. I can't count the number of times I've re-watched epic games, read player interviews, powerranks, game analysis etc. Will be watching the odd SCII game, but I plan on moving on and embracing other things (family, career, fitness). BW compliments everything in life and I hope I'm not being too dramatic by saying I feel like I've lost a close friend.


You're not alone on that sentiment.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 03:03:07
April 23 2012 03:01 GMT
#264
On April 23 2012 11:51 pyrogenetix wrote:
OSL sponsorship and running is much easier than PL. That beard and long hair guy who is self proclaimed Bisu's no.1 fan (let the hate roll in) is also a celebrity and has already announced in Korea that if OSL doesn't find a sponsor he will sponsor it himself.


OMG! Seriously?! I can't emphasize strongly enough on how happy that makes me! =D Bless this man's heart!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 23 2012 03:14 GMT
#265
On April 23 2012 12:01 Masheyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 11:51 pyrogenetix wrote:
OSL sponsorship and running is much easier than PL. That beard and long hair guy who is self proclaimed Bisu's no.1 fan (let the hate roll in) is also a celebrity and has already announced in Korea that if OSL doesn't find a sponsor he will sponsor it himself.


OMG! Seriously?! I can't emphasize strongly enough on how happy that makes me! =D Bless this man's heart!


yeah I heard that Park Wang Gyu(sorry if I butchered his name) was seriously gonna do this.

what a baller.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
April 23 2012 03:28 GMT
#266
I am really excited to see what these new faces will do for the sc2 scene.
esports
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 23 2012 03:41 GMT
#267
On April 23 2012 12:28 Luepert wrote:
I am really excited to see what these new faces will do for the sc2 scene.


Can't wait to see Jaedong MnM micro v Baneling I heard it is really good .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 23 2012 03:47 GMT
#268
On April 23 2012 12:41 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 12:28 Luepert wrote:
I am really excited to see what these new faces will do for the sc2 scene.


Can't wait to see Jaedong MnM micro v Baneling I heard it is really good .



The marine part is good; the banelings are just kinda thrown in there.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
nalho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States351 Posts
April 23 2012 03:51 GMT
#269
So after doing a bit of research it's not a guaranteed "I will sponser it myself."
He has an intention to be a sponser if that is what it takes to run the OSL. He would donate money out of his pocket if that is what it takes. But it probably doesn't mean a guaranteed. And even if he does donate it wont be donating the whole tournament prize and such but a portion of it.
i'm jung/i translate bw sometimes
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
April 23 2012 03:55 GMT
#270
On April 22 2012 14:23 Rkynick wrote:
I don't think a switch to SC2 is inevitable. We've been slowly entering the age of disillusionment for a long time with SC2, as it has become evident that the game isn't as interesting or entertaining as BW.

The BW community needs to do more to reverse BW's image as 'that old game' and reclaim some of the spotlight here, especially when the only thing SC2 has over it is flashier explosions. I would love to watch more BW, but, where is it?
Revitalization needs to begin from the bottom up. It would be possible for BW's scene to run in parallel to the SC2 scene instead of one pushing the other out, but this requires BW's scene to grow. Perhaps the strategy should be to intertwine the two games more closely so that the growing number of SC2 viewers could spill over into BW.

In any case, accepting defeat seems silly to me. Brood War is a game that has already stood the test of time impeccably. It is viewed, more or less, as perfected.

SC2 is widely viewed as flawed, and Blizzard does not seem to be working towards fixing it or forging a more solid gameplay. The design strategy is to add more flashy and shiny distractions, but eventually it will fall back into disillusionment. So much so that the community has been taking matters into its own hands for years now, with custom tournament versions of maps that are necessary to fix flaws in the game design and even a movement to change the fundamental setup of the game (FRB) in order to promote more interesting gameplay. These issues in the game will become more and more pronounced as the community's interests move further and further from Blizzard's. Some of these things (e.g. APM) have been fixed, but usually these issues are allowed to drag on for far longer than they should. Bnet2.0, as well, isn't built to harbor a strong community, either. All of these things will weaken SC2 in the long run, and each and every time something isn't quite right, the same thing will be said.

Every time.

"We didn't have this problem in BW."

A constant reminder, perhaps, that SC2 is unlikely to ever step out of the shadow of its predecessor. It is a cold comfort that, if BW dies, it will at least haunt its unworthy heir forever.


Allow me to clarify that I watch both SC2 and BW passionately, and play both, but understand that while I think SC2 is a good game, it is not BW and does not deserve to surmount BW in this fashion. Allow me also to clarify that I think I should stop writing long posts late at night.

I, too, watch both SC2 and BW. I, too, am more impressed by the competitive level of BW. The players really put in the effort compared to those playing SC2. That's where I think the real strength of BW comes from. The popularity of the game was all but dead before it reached new heights in South Korea when these young, new players literally made it their job to dominate the playing field.

However, SC2 stands in BW's shadow no more than a giant does a dwarf's, no matter how stupid the giant or clever the dwarf.

There's an immense draw to an arena where you can walk among the gladiators. Have a hero you admire? Go to one of the many events held worldwide (inside and outside of Korea across multiple continents) and meet him. In comparison, if you live outside of South Korea the BW arena is almost a dream. It's so real to you and so amazing (almost unbelievable), but it's not something you can touch easily. I think that's a bit more important than whether or not Battle.net 2.0 has real chat channels (though those would still be nice) as far as community goes.

If the switch can stimulate serious competition in SC2 without turning SC2 into a recurring event that only takes place in South Korea, I'd be content. SC2 needs BW's attitude and BW needs SC2's vitality.
Who dat ninja?
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 23 2012 04:17 GMT
#271
SC2 needs BW's attitude and BW needs SC2's vitality.


Nah we don't we need sc2's vitality if bw is going down might as well go down peacefully and be remembered as a Legend . I don't want to see bw fans begging sc2 fan base for pity and support . If people are interested in bw in the first place and actually discovered and play the game it self they would naturally do so.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 04:34:30
April 23 2012 04:21 GMT
#272
On April 23 2012 13:17 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
SC2 needs BW's attitude and BW needs SC2's vitality.


Nah we don't we need sc2's vitality if bw is going down might as well go down peacefully and be remembered as a Legend . I don't want to see bw fans begging sc2 fan base for pity and support . If people are interested in bw in the first place and actually discovered and play the game it self they would naturally do so.

I worded that a bit weird, but I meant the professional BW players. I imagine if you play BW now, there's no reason to stop playing BW when the pros do.
Who dat ninja?
Dirtysocks
Profile Joined August 2011
Czech Republic68 Posts
April 23 2012 05:00 GMT
#273
It is sad to see BW go away, but SC2 is a young game and can become much more than it is now. Every game has die hard fans that will leave with the game, but being open to new is a great thing. I find SC2 enjoyable, but I wonder what will happen to this game in new 2-3 years. Will it get as good as BW? Better? we know what happened to BW and if we learn from the mistakes we can get a great outcome. If blizzard helps this a little we are for a treat.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
April 23 2012 05:20 GMT
#274
There's been so much said, that I don't feel even a slight desire to extrapolate.
I will consider BW the best computer game ever made. I shall tell it to everyone I meet and keep old vods somewhere on the back of my hdd to watch it to remember and never forget.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
April 23 2012 05:23 GMT
#275
How about a not sure or wait and see option? I think SC2 could be great, but it needs lots of work and I don't think Browder's on the same page...I've held out hope for a while....I'll be checking in more sporadically, but for now my hope has shifted to the new CS:GO, seeing how that development team is intimately working with community members and their designers aren't too stubborn to leave well enough alone (or rather, to re-create 'well enough' in a new engine).
meatybacon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States36 Posts
April 23 2012 05:55 GMT
#276
I follow BW and Sc2 and still play both, I'm hoping with some of the units that heart of the swarm will be more brood-war esque... But I do realize most of the things implemented in SC2 that separate it from BW were meant to make it appeal to a larger audience, which, Blizzard as a company has to do.
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
April 23 2012 06:16 GMT
#277
On April 23 2012 12:01 Masheyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 11:51 pyrogenetix wrote:
OSL sponsorship and running is much easier than PL. That beard and long hair guy who is self proclaimed Bisu's no.1 fan (let the hate roll in) is also a celebrity and has already announced in Korea that if OSL doesn't find a sponsor he will sponsor it himself.


OMG! Seriously?! I can't emphasize strongly enough on how happy that makes me! =D Bless this man's heart!


Is it the one kroean rocker (singer?) who was at PL finals and hugged Bisu? He also regularly visits Jaedong's finals. Good friend with both of them
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
borlee
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Liechtenstein246 Posts
April 23 2012 06:19 GMT
#278
can you guys tell me when or if there even will be a timetable for the whole season?
vance
Profile Joined August 2009
Thailand118 Posts
April 23 2012 06:29 GMT
#279
If there is no more BW and PL, i will leave for sure.
Only come to check TL for pimpest play 2012
Fantasy BeSt ZerO
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
April 23 2012 06:56 GMT
#280
I'll stay of course..

you can NEVER leave the scene for good..

there is no such thing

many tried, and all of them failed.. (well a BIG majority at least..)

I dont like to play SC2 as much as BW, and as the spectator sport, its not even close as entertaining..

but I just cant leave Starcraft.. it become a big, BIG part of my life and daily routine...

So I'll stay and watch.. maybe something interesting will happen
T H C makes ppl happy
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