Rumors on SC Proleague Season 2 - Page 55

On April 06 2012 07:39 Megaliskuu wrote:


I hope this is a joke post lol. Foreigners were always "excluded" because the foreign scene was almost non-existant anyway, and the players sucked too much to compete with the koreans.

On April 06 2012 06:28 Let it Raine wrote:
i wish they didnt use smurfs, ive probably played a number of them.

On April 06 2012 07:17 masterbreti wrote:
The end of foreigners playing in Korean league, and the end of Koreans playing in foreign leagues is coming, and fast. Its happening. We all know Kespa will put an end to Korean-foreign teamups and will put an end to it all.

Makes me sad I only have a limited time left in Korea before Kespa bans me from one of their leagues. Sucks T_T

On April 06 2012 07:48 biaxiong wrote:
This is great! What the coach say is spot on. Sc2, because of the foreign scene is the future and we need Korea lead the way. Dota and like games are coming also. Great time to be an e-sports fan.

On April 06 2012 08:04 maybenexttime wrote:


Aren't they charging any bigger event like 50% of the sponsorship money? That's what I've read, I believe.




They've been trying to kill BW since a couple of years by now... The lawsuit was one of the two major reasons why BW lost a lot of its sponsorship potential.


Prediction: Once KeSpa fully switches to SC2 Koreans start dominating like they used to in BW (past tense because foreigners don't aspire to compete with the top Koreans anymore). Then the foreign scene rapidly loses interest because of the lack of "heroes" people can identify with. After 1-2 years SC2 dies down almost completely because Blizzard refuses to fix the glaring issues in the game.




It's a shame there's no Muta micro in SC2, though. Hopefully he plays Terran. Seems to be the most micro intensive race.

On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:

So here's a short summary:

-Coaches have been very careful about discussing SC2, but now with Kespa talking to Blizz about SC2 again, this pressure is gone and people can talk about it more freely now.
-Coach Ju saying biggest factors to their poor performance were short preparation time before the season began, being cheesed alot, Bo5 instead of Bo7 making it harder to come back, etc.
-Says even being away for a week shows in performance, and many had been team-less for months before being picked up by team8 + the pressure to perform in order to attract a sponsor weighed heavily on everybody's mind.
-On sea's slump, he said he trusted in sea's experience of leading MBC Game as its ace to recover from his slump by himself, but even though he seemed to know what to do to recover, he didn't put his words into action. Through having a long talk at a public bath, coach saw he still had passion and he has got his act together since then, so Coach Ju has high hopes.
-When asked if he will stick with his 6 starters, he says yes. He says there is a chance that SC2 will be implemented into the schedule next season, in which case it will become a Bo7 once again and his starting lineup might see a change, but otherwise with just BW, the 3 rookies lag far behind the 6 starters, so they won't see much play time.
-His stance on running BW and SC2 in the same league is 'trial and error.' He says somebody will complain regardless of what get's done. He isn't against implementing SC2 in the same league. He is against a complete switch from BW to SC2, but he says SC2 is a necessary stepping stone for e-sports to branch out internationally, so there needs to be some way of transitioning,
-On the question of "will sc2 help team8?" he says no, because other teams have been practicing since the beginning of last season, while team8 really didn't have the capacity to incorporate it into their schedule.
-He says his team is currently in the talks with a few potential sponsors.
-His thoughts on foreign tourneys in SC2: not a big problem, and he thinks it is only natural to enter, and the mingling of foreign and Korean players is a step in the right direction.
-His thoughts on the skill gap between current SC2 pros and BW pros: although the gap is huge at the moment, he isn't worried, as he believes BW pros will catch up quickly.
-How good is JD in SC2? Coach Ju: players who were dominant in BW also seem to be dominant in SC2. His feel for the game and macro is impeccable. He is studying unfamiliar strats from VOD's. He had a hard time adjusting at first but since the game is fun the players have gotten very competitive about their ladder points. Some have made multiple accounts to start over and get to masters quickly. Since hotkeys are adjustable, that makes it easier to transition. However the pace of the game is much faster. Right now we are focusing on SC2. At the beginning it was hard to incorporate both games into our regime, but now we are used to it.
-Other teams? Coach Ju: Not sure about their skill levels. We [=the different teams] haven't really shared who is even playing SC2. One thing is for sure though: most high masters on ladder these days are current BW pros.
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore, and looking 5 years ahead, transitioning to SC2 is the right decision. It would be a disservice to all the foreign fans wanting to watch JD play SC2 to limit him to BW. If you give SC2 a chance, most of the time people have the reaction of 'It's actually more fun than I thought.' I hope people can give it a chance.
-Predictions for SKPL finals? Coach Ju: KT has momentum, while SKT got to choose the maps for the first and last game. I think a big factor is Coach Park's (SKT T1's coach) decision to just sacrifice a scrub for Flash or bring one of his aces and make em go head to head and try to beat him. I don't believe the series will be one-sided in either direction.

Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2?

Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore, and looking 5 years ahead, transitioning to SC2 is the right decision. It would be a disservice to all the foreign fans wanting to watch JD play SC2 to limit him to BW. If you give SC2 a chance, most of the time people have the reaction of 'It's actually more fun than I thought.' I hope people can give it a chance.

On April 06 2012 08:04 maybenexttime wrote:


Aren't they charging any bigger event like 50% of the sponsorship money? That's what I've read, I believe.

On April 06 2012 08:20 TheButtonmen wrote:


No?

Like I'd love to see your source for that because Blizzard taking sponsorship money sounds impossible and completely dumb. Blizzard does take a cut of the advertising revenue for tournaments over $5k which don't have a partnership with Blizzard but all the major ones (Dreamhack, IEM, GSL, MLG, IGN, ect) all have partnerships with Blizz.

On April 06 2012 08:25 Kazuki wrote:


Exactly. I think I heard Robert Simpson or someone deny that they are taking such money as well. Don't remember where they said it.

I can understand that you're disappointed that BW isn't going the way you want it to, but to blame it all on Blizzard and saying they are just taking (our) money, is not true at all.

On April 06 2012 07:42 Xiphos wrote:


I blame ESTRO`s management. They could have gave Ret a progamer licence and the entire foreign scene would have shifted. CJ will field Greg Field with ESTRO fielding Jos De Kroon. Then as time goes on, more and more foreigners will start to catch up to the Koreans and solicify BW as a definition of a `sport`internationally.