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On April 06 2012 05:26 rotinegg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:23 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Thanks rotinegg.
I really don't know what to think about this to be honest. yea me neither... part of me squirms at the thought of watching SC2 over BW just cuz all my favorite players are playing it but if that's how it's gonna be so be it I guess..
I don't really have a problem with them playing SC2, but I don't like the idea of them having to split their practice time between BW and SC2.
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Wow I did not know Jaedong was playing sc2 and found it interesting how he said they were having fun with it which is awesome. I don't like that they are playing both bw and sc2 at the same time as I feel that will hinder their performance. Now I wonder how many bw players I have played on sc2.... 
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On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore.
Does he not know about the foreign BW scene?
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On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene?
Could you blame him if he didn't? In his position the foreign BW scene is nothing. How many coaches and players in the NFL have knowledge or even care about the european scene etc? It's nothing for them.
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On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene?
He doesn't.
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On April 06 2012 05:35 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:22 danl9rm wrote:
I don't know what to say except WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Thanks rotin!
edit: Jaedong first SC2 BONJWA please. No. Flash first SC2 bonjwa, as foretold by the elder scrolls. Really interesting interview. The elephant is certainly going to make its presence known in the near future. However, I really am worried about weaker, smaller teams like Team 8 or Ace when the switch to SC2/BW comes. They already struggled as is in the pure BW Proleague, and I'm afraid that they will be even weaker in a hybrid format where the rest of the teams can afford to have many more B-teamers and practice partners to help in their transition. Perhaps the reason Ace pulled out of OSL to practice Proleague was to help their SC2 transition... And interesting to hear that a lot of high-masters on KR server are BW progamers. Makes me wonder whenever I'm watching a pro Korean stream if their opponent is secretly Flash or Jaedong in disguise. Certainly an interesting thought. And I'm surprised to hear the coach speak rather positively, but cautiously, of SC2. There are certainly very interesting times ahead.
I would assume that those smaller teams will start a cooperation with existing SC2 teams to fill the holes in their lineup. I would even go so far to say that most BW teams will initially team up with current SC2 teams to benefit from the experience of existing SC2 pros and offering the raw talent of BW pros for practice in return.
oGs-TL-KT incoming :p
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On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene?
Isn't the foreign BW scene is very small compared to the SC2 scene, especially in terms of money (teams)?
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On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene?
what scene?
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On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene?
Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten.
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On April 06 2012 06:06 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene? Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten.
It's sad how the SC2 foreign scene is close to nothing when you see those LoL number tt.
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Imagine JD playing Terran, would he still be a Tyrant in our eyes xD?
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On April 06 2012 06:10 SaWse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 06:06 supernovamaniac wrote:On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene? Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten. It's sad how the SC2 foreign scene is close to nothing when you see those LoL number tt.
Also sadder that 3 years ago, BW used to be the present LoL only competed by massive CS/WC3 tournies.
Sometime I really hope that I could turn back in time with my current knowledge to 10 years ago. Then move to SK and say "bring it on!" to the progamers with superior tactics.
On April 06 2012 06:14 Art.FeeL wrote:
Imagine JD playing Terran, would he still be a Tyrant in our eyes xD?
Nah-uh. If JD switches race, I am changing my sig.
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On April 06 2012 06:10 SaWse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 06:06 supernovamaniac wrote:On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene? Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten. It's sad how the SC2 foreign scene is close to nothing when you see those LoL number tt.
I wouldn't say that the SC2 scene is close to nothing. There are 100s more SC2 tournaments with with $1000s more given out in prize pools.
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On April 06 2012 06:15 pStar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 06:10 SaWse wrote:On April 06 2012 06:06 supernovamaniac wrote:On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene? Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten. It's sad how the SC2 foreign scene is close to nothing when you see those LoL number tt. I wouldn't say that the SC2 scene is close to nothing. There are 100s more SC2 tournaments with with $1000s more given out in prize pools.
IIrc there was a 5million $ pricepool for some LoL tournament, don't ask for details because I don't have them.
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On April 06 2012 06:20 SaWse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 06:15 pStar wrote:On April 06 2012 06:10 SaWse wrote:On April 06 2012 06:06 supernovamaniac wrote:On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene? Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten. It's sad how the SC2 foreign scene is close to nothing when you see those LoL number tt. I wouldn't say that the SC2 scene is close to nothing. There are 100s more SC2 tournaments with with $1000s more given out in prize pools. IIrc there was a 5million $ pricepool for some LoL tournament, don't ask for details because I don't have them.
I think that's the current prizepool for the whole season 2.I don't really get how it works but its basically riots money to throw away so w/e.
As far as I know the biggest prizepool had that dota2 tourney or?
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i wish they didnt use smurfs, ive probably played a number of them.
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On April 06 2012 06:15 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 06:10 SaWse wrote:On April 06 2012 06:06 supernovamaniac wrote:On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene? Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten. It's sad how the SC2 foreign scene is close to nothing when you see those LoL number tt. Also sadder that 3 years ago, BW used to be the present LoL only competed by massive CS/WC3 tournies. Sometime I really hope that I could turn back in time with my current knowledge to 10 years ago. Then move to SK and say "bring it on!" to the progamers with superior tactics.
Truth is you would still lose tho lol. Most BW players can't play anything but the modern maps these days, and modern strats don't work on old maps. You would have muta stack for a week and then everyone else in the scene would figure it out.
I like to take Satanik as the perfect example of someone using old school tactics he knows very well to beat new decent players who just have no idea what to do against them. Modern foreign scene honestly has no imagination, it's really sad. Just some route memorization.
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Tyvm for posting that Rotinegg, it was very interesting reading. I hope for everyones sake that we get some solid news/announcements soon, all this stuff going on behind closed doors seems like a bad approach.
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On April 06 2012 06:29 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 06:15 Xiphos wrote:On April 06 2012 06:10 SaWse wrote:On April 06 2012 06:06 supernovamaniac wrote:On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene? Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten. It's sad how the SC2 foreign scene is close to nothing when you see those LoL number tt. Also sadder that 3 years ago, BW used to be the present LoL only competed by massive CS/WC3 tournies. Sometime I really hope that I could turn back in time with my current knowledge to 10 years ago. Then move to SK and say "bring it on!" to the progamers with superior tactics. Truth is you would still lose tho lol. Most BW players can't play anything but the modern maps these days, and modern strats don't work on old maps. You would have muta stack for a week and then everyone else in the scene would figure it out. I like to take Satanik as the perfect example of someone using old school tactics he knows very well to beat new decent players who just have no idea what to do against them. Modern foreign scene honestly has no imagination, it's really sad. Just some route memorization.
I barely play standard though >.<
I mean that I have never followed a build order or memorized a branch but play according to my sense. But hey I think I'll can at least beat the old legends in the macro-department.
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On April 06 2012 06:20 SaWse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 06:15 pStar wrote:On April 06 2012 06:10 SaWse wrote:On April 06 2012 06:06 supernovamaniac wrote:On April 06 2012 05:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On April 06 2012 05:15 rotinegg wrote:
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore. Does he not know about the foreign BW scene? Foreign BW scene is close to nothing, when viewed from Korean's perspective (Progamers, and people in the Progaming scene). Sure, we can TRY to show our support, but they're only going to see that SC2 is bigger in the foreign scene, and BW is almost forgotten. It's sad how the SC2 foreign scene is close to nothing when you see those LoL number tt. I wouldn't say that the SC2 scene is close to nothing. There are 100s more SC2 tournaments with with $1000s more given out in prize pools. IIrc there was a 5million $ pricepool for some LoL tournament, don't ask for details because I don't have them.
that was for the whole of the season, and it also included the riot prices of prizes they gave away like skins and heroes
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