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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
April 05 2012 18:53 GMT
#1021
it was on gamechosun, http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=105&oid=023&aid=0002378420 should work
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 18:58:14
April 05 2012 18:56 GMT
#1022
On April 06 2012 02:28 blubbdavid wrote:
For numbers.. I just logged into Europe B.net of BW:
it says:
15k users playing 3k games of BW atm
and
80k users playing 25k game on B.net in total
Same numbers in any other b.net region

Is this BW and WC3 and D2 together or what?

only SC

and all for second message afaik
Stork[gm]
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 05 2012 18:58 GMT
#1023
On April 06 2012 03:53 Antoine wrote:
it was on gamechosun, http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=105&oid=023&aid=0002378420 should work

Ah okay. I usually don't search there.

Could someone post a summary or translation? I really want to know what he's saying.

Thanks in advance.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
April 05 2012 18:59 GMT
#1024
On April 06 2012 03:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 03:53 Antoine wrote:
it was on gamechosun, http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=105&oid=023&aid=0002378420 should work

Ah okay. I usually don't search there.

Could someone post a summary or translation? I really want to know what he's saying.

Thanks in advance.


Yeah please someone do this!!
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
April 05 2012 19:14 GMT
#1025
On April 06 2012 03:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 03:53 Antoine wrote:
it was on gamechosun, http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=105&oid=023&aid=0002378420 should work

Ah okay. I usually don't search there.

Could someone post a summary or translation? I really want to know what he's saying.

Thanks in advance.

Yeah I would like a quick sum up too, it possible.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 05 2012 19:26 GMT
#1026
I can make just enough sense out of the google translate gibberish to tell that this article is probably quite interesting. It would be nice if someone translated it.
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 20:22:17
April 05 2012 19:39 GMT
#1027
On April 06 2012 04:26 QuothTheRaven wrote:
I can make just enough sense out of the google translate gibberish to tell that this article is probably quite interesting. It would be nice if someone translated it.


Same but I had a headache trying to read it haha!
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
April 05 2012 19:43 GMT
#1028
Brood War already can't keep up with a less than 2 year old Starcraft 2 Vanilla...
Release of HOTS will be the "coup de grâce".



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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 19:55:43
April 05 2012 19:54 GMT
#1029
Dontquotewarnedpostsdaviddontquotewarnedpostsdontdoitalliswellalliswell
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#1030
On April 06 2012 04:26 QuothTheRaven wrote:
I can make just enough sense out of the google translate gibberish to tell that this article is probably quite interesting. It would be nice if someone translated it.

I think this confirms the BW/SC2 merger? I really can't tell if they are merging or replacing the games altogether.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 05 2012 20:04 GMT
#1031
On April 06 2012 04:14 PlosionCornu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 03:58 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
On April 06 2012 03:53 Antoine wrote:
it was on gamechosun, http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=105&oid=023&aid=0002378420 should work

Ah okay. I usually don't search there.

Could someone post a summary or translation? I really want to know what he's saying.

Thanks in advance.

Yeah I would like a quick sum up too, it possible.


1) Lots of high rank masters accounts in KR are BW progamers
2) They're mostly focusing on SC2 now.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
April 05 2012 20:06 GMT
#1032
I love Sc2 and BW. This is an awfully stupid idea. I'd like to see BW for at least another year, watching Proleague this season was a great experience for me. This is sad
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 20:21:35
April 05 2012 20:15 GMT
#1033
On April 06 2012 03:53 Antoine wrote:
it was on gamechosun, http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=105&oid=023&aid=0002378420 should work

So here's a short summary:

-Coaches have been very careful about discussing SC2, but now with Kespa talking to Blizz about SC2 again, this pressure is gone and people can talk about it more freely now.
-Coach Ju saying biggest factors to their poor performance were short preparation time before the season began, being cheesed alot, Bo5 instead of Bo7 making it harder to come back, etc.
-Says even being away for a week shows in performance, and many had been team-less for months before being picked up by team8 + the pressure to perform in order to attract a sponsor weighed heavily on everybody's mind.
-On sea's slump, he said he trusted in sea's experience of leading MBC Game as its ace to recover from his slump by himself, but even though he seemed to know what to do to recover, he didn't put his words into action. Through having a long talk at a public bath, coach saw he still had passion and he has got his act together since then, so Coach Ju has high hopes.
-When asked if he will stick with his 6 starters, he says yes. He says there is a chance that SC2 will be implemented into the schedule next season, in which case it will become a Bo7 once again and his starting lineup might see a change, but otherwise with just BW, the 3 rookies lag far behind the 6 starters, so they won't see much play time.
-His stance on running BW and SC2 in the same league is 'trial and error.' He says somebody will complain regardless of what get's done. He isn't against implementing SC2 in the same league. He is against a complete switch from BW to SC2, but he says SC2 is a necessary stepping stone for e-sports to branch out internationally, so there needs to be some way of transitioning,
-On the question of "will sc2 help team8?" he says no, because other teams have been practicing since the beginning of last season, while team8 really didn't have the capacity to incorporate it into their schedule.
-He says his team is currently in the talks with a few potential sponsors.
-His thoughts on foreign tourneys in SC2: not a big problem, and he thinks it is only natural to enter, and the mingling of foreign and Korean players is a step in the right direction.
-His thoughts on the skill gap between current SC2 pros and BW pros: although the gap is huge at the moment, he isn't worried, as he believes BW pros will catch up quickly.
-How good is JD in SC2? Coach Ju: players who were dominant in BW also seem to be dominant in SC2. His feel for the game and macro is impeccable. He is studying unfamiliar strats from VOD's. He had a hard time adjusting at first but since the game is fun the players have gotten very competitive about their ladder points. Some have made multiple accounts to start over and get to masters quickly. Since hotkeys are adjustable, that makes it easier to transition. However the pace of the game is much faster. Right now we are focusing on SC2. At the beginning it was hard to incorporate both games into our regime, but now we are used to it.
-Other teams? Coach Ju: Not sure about their skill levels. We [=the different teams] haven't really shared who is even playing SC2. One thing is for sure though: most high masters on ladder these days are current BW pros.
-Thoughts on BW fans against incorporating SC2? Coach Ju: Lots of people are against the idea of change, but I want to ask them, as fans of esports, what is the right choice? Nobody plays BW outside of Korea anymore, and looking 5 years ahead, transitioning to SC2 is the right decision. It would be a disservice to all the foreign fans wanting to watch JD play SC2 to limit him to BW. If you give SC2 a chance, most of the time people have the reaction of 'It's actually more fun than I thought.' I hope people can give it a chance.
-Predictions for SKPL finals? Coach Ju: KT has momentum, while SKT got to choose the maps for the first and last game. I think a big factor is Coach Park's (SKT T1's coach) decision to just sacrifice a scrub for Flash or bring one of his aces and make em go head to head and try to beat him. I don't believe the series will be one-sided in either direction.
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 20:23:28
April 05 2012 20:22 GMT
#1034
I don't know what to say except WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Thanks rotin!

edit: Jaedong first SC2 BONJWA please.
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QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 05 2012 20:22 GMT
#1035
Thanks for the summary rotinegg
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e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 05 2012 20:23 GMT
#1036
Thanks rotinegg.

I really don't know what to think about this to be honest.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
April 05 2012 20:26 GMT
#1037
On April 06 2012 05:23 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Thanks rotinegg.

I really don't know what to think about this to be honest.

yea me neither... part of me squirms at the thought of watching SC2 over BW just cuz all my favorite players are playing it but if that's how it's gonna be so be it I guess..
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
April 05 2012 20:30 GMT
#1038
Thanks rotinegg, although Im not really happy with most the things I read
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 05 2012 20:31 GMT
#1039
Well. Only five more months till college and the OSL should cover most of that... Meh, I need to spend more time writing anyways

^^thanks for the translation rotinegg
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 20:40:16
April 05 2012 20:35 GMT
#1040
On April 06 2012 05:22 danl9rm wrote:
I don't know what to say except WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Thanks rotin!

edit: Jaedong first SC2 BONJWA please.

No. Flash first SC2 bonjwa, as foretold by the elder scrolls.

Really interesting interview. The elephant is certainly going to make its presence known in the near future. However, I really am worried about weaker, smaller teams like Team 8 or Ace when the switch to SC2/BW comes. They already struggled as is in the pure BW Proleague, and I'm afraid that they will be even weaker in a hybrid format where the rest of the teams can afford to have many more B-teamers and practice partners to help in their transition. Perhaps the reason Ace pulled out of OSL to practice Proleague was to help their SC2 transition...

And interesting to hear that a lot of high-masters on KR server are BW progamers. Makes me wonder whenever I'm watching a pro Korean stream if their opponent is secretly Flash or Jaedong in disguise. Certainly an interesting thought. And I'm surprised to hear the coach speak rather positively, but cautiously, of SC2.

There are certainly very interesting times ahead.
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