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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On March 25 2012 04:08 maybenexttime wrote: If only BW had WC3 type of BNet, with Blizzard putting iCCup's level of effort... Recent thread basically said the lowest players on iccup would be SC2 Masters or High Diamond. Lol @ trying to get new people to play. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5739 Posts
On March 25 2012 04:28 Soleron wrote: Recent thread basically said the lowest players on iccup would be SC2 Masters or High Diamond. Lol @ trying to get new people to play. I'm not talking about improving bnet now. I'm talking about having that kind of online service as soon as it was possible (let's say WC3's release). Certainly thing would've been very different. A ton of people got discouraged because compared to WC3 it's a hassle to get a game in BW (although the system has its benefits for the more competitive players), let alone get an evenly matched opponent. | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
One thing is that SK planet sponsored the two seasons for the SK planet proleague. It seems that all of this discussion is always based on Blizzard/Kespa relations (with the good suggestion by someone I'll post here): On March 25 2012 02:59 FiReMaN wrote: I think that BW isn't doing that well financial, they have a hard time to find sponsors and Blizzard is willing to sponsor a OGN SC2 proleague. OGN wants Blizzard's money, but viewers won't watch SC2 over BW so they have to drop BW. This is just me speculating ofcourse. Does SK planet, as the sponsor of the proleague, have any say in this? It seems to me that Blizzard is coming in trying to make/negotiate OGN to incorporate sc2. What does the actual sponsor of the league get to say? | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On March 25 2012 04:16 dcsoda wrote: Hmm didn't realize they'd be rotating on a game by game basis that's odd. I thought they'd have two different smaller tournaments running together. What are the chances of getting some English-casted BW games if this happens? At the very least I'll be curious to see how this looks if the format stays that way, but I would not be surprised to see a change before its final. Everyone would be fine with BW and SC2 parallel SPLs, keep  Stork/ Flash/Bisu and co. in BW and send out B-teamers to SC2 SPL, maybe this is the only way Paralyze will get some play time in SC2.... | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On March 25 2012 04:38 N.geNuity wrote: So a thread opened in sc2 general (also in community news) with essentially same information. One thing is that SK planet sponsored the two seasons for the SK planet proleague. It seems that all of this discussion is always based on Blizzard/Kespa relations (with the good suggestion by someone I'll post here): Does SK planet, as the sponsor of the proleague, have any say in this? It seems to me that Blizzard is coming in trying to make/negotiate OGN to incorporate sc2. What does the actual sponsor of the league get to say? KeSPA is comprised of the sponsors. The head of KeSPA is actually an SK representative, so yes, SK most certainly has a say in the matter. | ||
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empty.bottle
685 Posts
On March 25 2012 04:21 blade55555 wrote: I agree with this and the fact that when sc2 came out for quiet awhile it was 1 base all ins which I imagine made a lot of bw folks hate on it even more (which I can't disagree with, game was so boring when it was all 1 base all in 50% or so of the games  ).I imagine many bw people haven't looked at sc2 much since then and thus dont' realize the game has changed a ton since then. I dunno i'll still be sad if next season is bw's last proleague season :/. The game hasnt changed that much, maybe they dont all-in as much but the game is pretty boring(1 big fight into roflstomp of one player or another), the only matchups worth watching are TvZ and Code S class TvP. | ||
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
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Korste
United States64 Posts
not that im not happy for sc2 coming to the proleague, i dont think this is how it should be done, it just doesn't click in my head as to why they'd do this ? i'd like to have both in seperate leagues under the same management or just one of them rather than trying to mix them together like pb&j | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
If they make a show of the trinity playing SC2, they'll get 200,000+ foreign viewers. so...... if they do use Flash in SC2, they'll be showing they want the foreign audience, if they don't they'll just be trying to promote SC2 a little in KR, probably with Blizzard subsidizing. We'll see.... Flash is their biggest asset currently, what he does means the most in reflecting their ideas. | ||
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RageCommodore
Germany912 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:11 empty.bottle wrote: The game hasnt changed that much, maybe they dont all-in as much but the game is pretty boring(1 big fight into roflstomp of one player or another), the only matchups worth watching are TvZ and Code S class TvP. Looks like you watch a lot of SC2. Not. | ||
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
Don't be illuded SC2 fans, Flash won't switch from day to night... neither will all the other top tier BW pros. You know, BW demands continuous practicing, no time to waste. | ||
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DeadBull
421 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:27 fabiano wrote: Funny how people who don't follow BW actually think Flash has time to spend to play SC2 or any motivation to do so. Don't be illuded SC2 fans, Flash won't switch from day to night... neither will all the other top tier BW pros. You know, BW demands continuous practicing, no time to waste. I'm sure most of the ppl on tl know that oO... | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:05 dsousa wrote: I know its sacrilegious to the BW crowd, but they need to have Flash, Jaedong and Bisu play SC2. Otherwise it will just be another EWS weekly type event that draws 2000 foreign viewers. If they make a show of the trinity playing SC2, they'll get 200,000+ foreign viewers. so...... if they do use Flash in SC2, they'll be showing they want the foreign audience, if they don't they'll just be trying to promote SC2 a little in KR, probably with Blizzard subsidizing. We'll see.... Flash is their biggest asset currently, what he does means the most in reflecting their ideas. First off all,no sc2 event has had 200,000 + viewers at a time. Best was like 80 k or something. The best BW players won't play sc2 because they practice BW full time,B teamer's will play sc2 in this scenario because they don't get play time at all right now in the PL or very little. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:05 dsousa wrote: I know its sacrilegious to the BW crowd, but they need to have Flash, Jaedong and Bisu play SC2. Otherwise it will just be another EWS weekly type event that draws 2000 foreign viewers. If they make a show of the trinity playing SC2, they'll get 200,000+ foreign viewers. so...... if they do use Flash in SC2, they'll be showing they want the foreign audience, if they don't they'll just be trying to promote SC2 a little in KR, probably with Blizzard subsidizing. We'll see.... Flash is their biggest asset currently, what he does means the most in reflecting their ideas. wrong. Why would we need them to play a game we don't want to watch? If anything, it seems like the SC2 crowd is more desperate for them to switch over because they need that validation and star power in order to survive or to finally kill that elephant for good. Besides, those pros will probably just retire and go to military if BW goes down, not play SC2. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On March 25 2012 04:38 N.geNuity wrote: So a thread opened in sc2 general (also in community news) with essentially same information. I'm pretty surprised at the number of BW supporters who seem to be shitting up that thread as much as SC2 supporters here. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you kinda lose your moral ground when it's on their house. >.> @N.geNuity I know, I'm talking to those posting on that thread but I guess some people like to be confrontational in both communities. I mean it's expected but we have our own space to discuss the news here... | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:40 Hesmyrr wrote: I'm shockingly appalled at the number of BW supporters who seem to be shitting up that thread as much as SC2 supporters here. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you kinda lose your moral ground when it's on their house. >.> Actually from the ~20pages I read here, there has only been a handful of guys shitting that thread. Nearly everyone thinks it's the wrong decision to mix it up, even sc2 guys. I haven't read the other thread though apart from the OP :s | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
Anyways, On March 25 2012 06:05 dsousa wrote: I know its sacrilegious to the BW crowd, but they need to have Flash, Jaedong and Bisu play SC2. Otherwise it will just be another EWS weekly type event that draws 2000 foreign viewers. If they make a show of the trinity playing SC2, they'll get 200,000+ foreign viewers. if they do use Flash in SC2, they'll be showing they want the foreign audience, if they don't they'll just be trying to promote SC2 a little in KR, probably with Blizzard subsidizing. Everything in the west is so small in comparison to what expanding to china already could provide (in terms of viewership). Having sc2 in proleague is a factor of blizzard pushing for it. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:05 dsousa wrote: I know its sacrilegious to the BW crowd, but they need to have Flash, Jaedong and Bisu play SC2. Otherwise it will just be another EWS weekly type event that draws 2000 foreign viewers. If they make a show of the trinity playing SC2, they'll get 200,000+ foreign viewers. so...... if they do use Flash in SC2, they'll be showing they want the foreign audience, if they don't they'll just be trying to promote SC2 a little in KR, probably with Blizzard subsidizing. We'll see.... Flash is their biggest asset currently, what he does means the most in reflecting their ideas. They can't force Flash to play sc2. | ||
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
I personally would find this very cool as I would watch both games with interest  | ||
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