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pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
March 06 2012 03:51 GMT
#1
How easy is it to mod BW? I've seen many different mods for it, including that SC2 bw mod that had sc2 units in the game. So it leads me to believe that it can't be that difficult to put in custom sprites.

Then there's that high resolution hack for bw. The one that turns the resolution up(like in the bw editor) letting you see more of the map, making units and buildings smaller. So upping the resolution is also possible.

What I'm not sure if it's possible, is whether or not things such as the selection limit or mechanics can be changed, but that would really be secondary.
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Anyways, how possible would it be to make a mod that upped the resolution making everything smaller, but then putting in custom sprites for everything, much better quality and bigger size, so basically leading to having the same proportions as regular bw, but in high resolution with high rez sprites and in proper widescreen proportions? I've never modded bw, and I don't have any real plans to right now. But I've been learning a lot about game development and modeling and coding and all that neat stuff. BW has been the strongest game to influence my life, and I would really love an HD version, which is what this game deserves. If anyone knows about modding bw, it would be nice to hear whether something like this could ever happen, and if it did, if it could ever have a chance to be played multiplayer.
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LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 03:58:22
March 06 2012 03:57 GMT
#2
If we scale up the resolution, it will ruin the game. The best part of BW is that you don't have a high resolution UI like SCII
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
March 06 2012 04:01 GMT
#3
On March 06 2012 12:57 LightAngels wrote:
If we scale up the resolution, it will ruin the game. The best part of BW is that you don't have a high resolution UI like SCII

That's the best part of BW?
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dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 04:06:54
March 06 2012 04:02 GMT
#4
I remember seeing a thread where brood war was cast in HD, it looked kinda funny...everything was so small, I thought it lost some appeal. Especially in big fights, you dont have that massive theatre of war feel, because everything gets squished into one screen.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278650

Thats the cast thread...but someone below found an actual mod...
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 06 2012 04:03 GMT
#5
they have a mod for sc2 that has all the brood war units and modified the play so that it emulates sc:bw. but i imagine that kind of defeats the point.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
March 06 2012 04:03 GMT
#6
There was a mod actually. Here is video of the mod.

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Saline
Profile Joined February 2008
United States73 Posts
March 06 2012 04:09 GMT
#7
I think what the OP means is to increase the resolution while keeping the size/aspect the same. The BW HD hack that people are mentioning keeps the same level of detail, but just zooms out until the desired resolution is reached. BW is run in 640x480 resolution, which means that a 1900x1200 monitor could potential display about 3 screen-heights worth, but everything would appear much smaller.

An alternative would be to somehow resample all of the textures and sprites for BW and display it in a higher resolution. I would be curious about this too.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
March 06 2012 04:13 GMT
#8
With programs like photoshop CS5 or CS6 now and professional very exspensive video editing programs that should have algorithms to help fill in the gaps. I'm not sure if you could do that to all of the BW textures but it might worth investigating.
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
March 06 2012 04:55 GMT
#9
I doubt it would be possible to do this while maintaining the rest of the mechanics and interactions in the game without a shit ton of work
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LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
March 06 2012 04:59 GMT
#10
On March 06 2012 13:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
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On March 06 2012 12:57 LightAngels wrote:
If we scale up the resolution, it will ruin the game. The best part of BW is that you don't have a high resolution UI like SCII

That's the best part of BW?


Its much harder to play with the old UI, and people enjoy BW that way
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
March 06 2012 05:07 GMT
#11
To completely overhaul the system (such as the SC2BW project) just can't work. Not only are the small bugs part of what makes it a great game, but it is also necessary for balance. However, I think that the extended screen that was posted above, or to brush up the sprites/textures would be cool. Here is a reference as to what is possible while still using the engine.



Obviously I'm not suggesting to make the unit's look exactly like that, or that big, but it shows that it is possible to make the sprites look a lot better and still have everything look smooth.
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Artifice
Profile Joined May 2010
United States523 Posts
March 06 2012 05:15 GMT
#12
On March 06 2012 13:59 LightAngels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 13:01 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On March 06 2012 12:57 LightAngels wrote:
If we scale up the resolution, it will ruin the game. The best part of BW is that you don't have a high resolution UI like SCII

That's the best part of BW?


Its much harder to play with the old UI, and people enjoy BW that way


Changing the resolution doesn't change the UI. SC2 isn't any "harder" on 800x600 than it is on 1920x1080. It just makes the game not look like shit and have giant black bars on the sides and stretching issues on modern equipment. That being said, I think accomplishing what the OP wishes to do would be very difficult and time consuming.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 05:27:19
March 06 2012 05:25 GMT
#13
You might as well just do SCII:BW if that's what you want. Also, the crappiness of the graphics allows people to figure out what they actually look like in their head.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 06 2012 05:28 GMT
#14
well bw could be fine tuned, some things really easily, the unit sprites as mentioned already for example. But i doubt it would be accepted by everyone or help bw in any way. Personally i like bw how it is, but i would probably bite if Blizzard released a money making bw remake with better graphics. And continue playing the old bw after playing around abit.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 06 2012 05:43 GMT
#15
Just play SC2. Part of the charm of broodwar are its low resolution. Don't fix what isn't broke.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 06 2012 05:46 GMT
#16
On March 06 2012 14:43 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Just play SC2. Part of the charm of broodwar are its low resolution. Don't fix what isn't broke.

The low resolution is fine, I just really wish it didn't suck to play on newer larger monitors. :\

Some kind of built-in scaling would be really nice, instead of forcing monitor resolutions down.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
March 06 2012 05:54 GMT
#17
I am not that interested in playing in HD but I would surely love to watch VODs in HD.

I can imagine in korean proleague where they can show the entire battle in HD and alternate between these wide shots and "close ups," sort of like in physical sports broadcasting.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 06 2012 06:07 GMT
#18
Higher resolution for observers and spectators alike is a more reasonable idea.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 06 2012 06:08 GMT
#19
I personally would much rather have better observer UI and a much more flexible mapmaker over graphics improvements.

Oh, and a better matchmaking system too, kinda like the one that SC2 has.
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Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
March 06 2012 06:15 GMT
#20
all you need to do is force it to display in 4:3 in windows settings if you don't like aspect ratio
Got that.
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