So some korean guy told me on fish today that he is at an amateur house. It is just like a progamer house, but for amateurs. Instead of getting a salary, they have to pay monthly 400.000 wons (~350 usd). For that they get food and basicly live there, just like progamers. They have a coach and play 30-50 games a day. It's like a training for becoming a progamer. As a context, i heard B team progamers earn about 300.000 won a month. (? not sure)
I find it amazing that even now there are people in korea who are willing to pay (their parents') money to become a progamer. Anyone knows more about this?
UPDATE: ok so i guess this is not new to most people. the info here is that these houses still exist. i asked the guy and he said his house is called the NF-house (New Face)
Artosis' tour in [Name] house reposted:
most interesting info there to me was that the coach forbade playing all in builds lol
I am not wondering about the fact, that they pay for an progamer career, I am wondering more about the game. Yes BW is part of their culture and still popular. But you earn more money with sc2 plus in BW you actually only have good salaries if you are really good. But I think it is easier to become a very good competitor in sc2 as in BW, since the skill level in BW is already very very high.
On February 17 2012 01:36 jaQi wrote: I am not wondering about the fact, that they pay for an progamer career, I am wondering more about the game. Yes BW is part of their culture and still popular. But you earn more money with sc2 plus in BW you actually only have good salaries if you are really good. But I think it is easier to become a very good competitor in sc2 as in BW, since the skill level in BW is already very very high.
I don't think becoming a progamer is about money for most people.
On February 17 2012 01:36 jaQi wrote: I am not wondering about the fact, that they pay for an progamer career, I am wondering more about the game. Yes BW is part of their culture and still popular. But you earn more money with sc2 plus in BW you actually only have good salaries if you are really good. But I think it is easier to become a very good competitor in sc2 as in BW, since the skill level in BW is already very very high.
I don't think becoming a progamer is about money for most people.
its all about the passion, why didnt i born in korea zomg ;_;
On February 17 2012 01:36 jaQi wrote: I am not wondering about the fact, that they pay for an progamer career, I am wondering more about the game. Yes BW is part of their culture and still popular. But you earn more money with sc2 plus in BW you actually only have good salaries if you are really good. But I think it is easier to become a very good competitor in sc2 as in BW, since the skill level in BW is already very very high.
you dont get a salary with sc2 at all, unless your at a foreign team
but yeah sc2 is kind of the easier game, so if they are trying to make a living they should try sc2
Woah, I totally wish I could try that, even for a little while! Playing games day and night, talking with the dudes all the time, not having to worry about anything.. It's a dream come true~
On February 16 2012 23:50 Sayle wrote: Blows my mind that parents would be willing to pay for their child to go to one of these.
Not necessarily parents paying for it. It's kind of like Go houses... it likes school for StarCraft players. You would try it for a bit to see if you like it and feel like you have any potential to do it. A parent might see it as a way to get it out of a manchild's system 'I'll pay for this long, if you succeed great, if not, you do what I tell you to do and get a job/real education.' Or in other words, give it your best shot and if you can't beat courage, you'll at least know you tried your best.
That's how I imagine it. Asians get a wrap about being super hardworking and parents being super unforgiving, and to an extent I suppose that must be true, but I think it's truer for Asian immigrants than it is for Asians living in their own countries. I read some studies that compared parental relationship between children and their parents, comparing Americans, Asian Americans, and Asians, and the results showed the most conflicts with Asian Americans. It fits with the literature and media I get from Asian countries too, since the parents are often depicted as pretty considerate and liberal compared to what we generally perceive as the Asian American parent's attitude. There's a sensitivity that looks like authoritative parenting style rather than authoritarian.
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote: Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)
link anyone?
I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)
It was the [Name] house iirc. He did a tour of it back when [Name] was still around. Now afaik the house shut down and became a sc2 house.
y The [Name] house is now the team IM house that Nestea and others live in, also ...Neo.G_SexyBoy told me that they started a house called the "NF" house, (Neo.G / fOu ) home, where they pay 300-400 won a month , so that might be what you are talking about.
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote: Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)
link anyone?
I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)
It was the [Name] house iirc. He did a tour of it back when [Name] was still around. Now afaik the house shut down and became a sc2 house.
y The [Name] house is now the team IM house that Nestea and others live in, also ...Neo.G_SexyBoy told me that they started a house called the "NF" house, (Neo.G / fOu ) home, where they pay 300-400 won a month , so that might be what you are talking about.
Nestea (and MVP) dont live in the IM house do they?
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote: Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)
link anyone?
I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)
It was the [Name] house iirc. He did a tour of it back when [Name] was still around. Now afaik the house shut down and became a sc2 house.
y The [Name] house is now the team IM house that Nestea and others live in, also ...Neo.G_SexyBoy told me that they started a house called the "NF" house, (Neo.G / fOu ) home, where they pay 300-400 won a month , so that might be what you are talking about.
Nestea (and MVP) dont live in the IM house do they?
Yea...I'm pretty sure they do, the IM house used to be the [Name] house.
its right that the IM house used to be the [Name] house, but as far as i know Nestea and MVP dont live there for example nada and rainbow dont live in their teams houses either i think
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote: Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)
link anyone?
I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)
It was the [Name] house iirc. He did a tour of it back when [Name] was still around. Now afaik the house shut down and became a sc2 house.
y The [Name] house is now the team IM house that Nestea and others live in, also ...Neo.G_SexyBoy told me that they started a house called the "NF" house, (Neo.G / fOu ) home, where they pay 300-400 won a month , so that might be what you are talking about.
I was talking about how the [Name] house did become the IM house. iirc Artosis metions it in the Video tour of the IM house.
<-- Tour of Stx House <---- Tour of Estro house Can't seem to find the nameclan house anywhere i looked but for more vods i found them all here www.youtube.com/scforall
On February 16 2012 23:50 Sayle wrote: Blows my mind that parents would be willing to pay for their child to go to one of these.
Not necessarily parents paying for it. It's kind of like Go houses... it likes school for StarCraft players. You would try it for a bit to see if you like it and feel like you have any potential to do it. A parent might see it as a way to get it out of a manchild's system 'I'll pay for this long, if you succeed great, if not, you do what I tell you to do and get a job/real education.' Or in other words, give it your best shot and if you can't beat courage, you'll at least know you tried your best.
That's how I imagine it. Asians get a wrap about being super hardworking and parents being super unforgiving, and to an extent I suppose that must be true, but I think it's truer for Asian immigrants than it is for Asians living in their own countries. I read some studies that compared parental relationship between children and their parents, comparing Americans, Asian Americans, and Asians, and the results showed the most conflicts with Asian Americans. It fits with the literature and media I get from Asian countries too, since the parents are often depicted as pretty considerate and liberal compared to what we generally perceive as the Asian American parent's attitude. There's a sensitivity that looks like authoritative parenting style rather than authoritarian.
On February 22 2012 19:51 Black[CAT] wrote: That's it... I'll take a break from Uni for 6months to test out this stuff But, how many amateur houses are there now?
If you did, and then did coverage like Artosis did... overnight hero.
On February 22 2012 14:06 Rostam wrote: Btw guys, PuertoRican (at least I think that's who it is) just uploaded the [Name] clan house tour on youtube, so if you want to see that check it out
sorry for bringing it UP again, but:; neOx...? reminds me a lil bit of saviors ID @ terros league...he played with [neOx]Majae or sth like that...?! he joined up there ;D?
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote: Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)
link anyone?
I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)
It was the [Name] house iirc. He did a tour of it back when [Name] was still around. Now afaik the house shut down and became a sc2 house.
y The [Name] house is now the team IM house that Nestea and others live in, also ...Neo.G_SexyBoy told me that they started a house called the "NF" house, (Neo.G / fOu ) home, where they pay 300-400 won a month , so that might be what you are talking about.
Nestea (and MVP) dont live in the IM house do they?
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote: Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)
link anyone?
I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)
It was the [Name] house iirc. He did a tour of it back when [Name] was still around. Now afaik the house shut down and became a sc2 house.
y The [Name] house is now the team IM house that Nestea and others live in, also ...Neo.G_SexyBoy told me that they started a house called the "NF" house, (Neo.G / fOu ) home, where they pay 300-400 won a month , so that might be what you are talking about.
Are you sure it's 300-400 won per month and not 30000-40000 (or even 300000 or more)? 300 won amounts to pretty much nothing, even for me.
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote: Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)
link anyone?
I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)
It was the [Name] house iirc. He did a tour of it back when [Name] was still around. Now afaik the house shut down and became a sc2 house.
y The [Name] house is now the team IM house that Nestea and others live in, also ...Neo.G_SexyBoy told me that they started a house called the "NF" house, (Neo.G / fOu ) home, where they pay 300-400 won a month , so that might be what you are talking about.
Are you sure it's 300-400 won per month and not 30000-40000 (or even 300000 or more)? 300 won amounts to pretty much nothing, even for me.
i meant 300-400$ us dollars, sorry, so yea 30-40k won.
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