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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary955 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 14:38:15
February 16 2012 14:17 GMT
#1
So some korean guy told me on fish today that he is at an amateur house.
It is just like a progamer house, but for amateurs. Instead of getting a salary, they have to pay monthly 400.000 wons (~350 usd). For that they get food and basicly live there, just like progamers. They have a coach and play 30-50 games a day. It's like a training for becoming a progamer.
As a context, i heard B team progamers earn about 300.000 won a month. (? not sure)

I find it amazing that even now there are people in korea who are willing to pay (their parents') money to become a progamer.
Anyone knows more about this?

UPDATE:
ok so i guess this is not new to most people. the info here is that these houses still exist. i asked the guy and he said his house is called the NF-house (New Face)

Artosis' tour in [Name] house reposted:


most interesting info there to me was that the coach forbade playing all in builds lol

Original thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=87602

to provide some extra content, small reppack of the long haired guy in the video, who later became pro as 45[Name]: http://www.sendspace.com/file/t11s8v or http://www.mediafire.com/?q7e2vydzwq5nmka
games are played in 2009-2010
agentzimp
TL+ Member
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
February 16 2012 14:19 GMT
#2
Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
February 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#3
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)

Yep Artosis did a video about this. Sc1 is a legend, most don't do it for money. The effort:money ratio isn't that good.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
February 16 2012 14:44 GMT
#4
It is still a part of their culture.
Stork[gm]
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
February 16 2012 14:50 GMT
#5
Blows my mind that parents would be willing to pay for their child to go to one of these.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 16 2012 15:06 GMT
#6
On February 16 2012 23:50 Sayle wrote:
Blows my mind that parents would be willing to pay for their child to go to one of these.


Isn't 350 usd for lodging and food quite cheap in Korea? If the alternative is them mooching of their parents anyway sounds like not such a bad deal.
zerotol
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium508 Posts
February 16 2012 15:20 GMT
#7
On February 16 2012 23:50 Sayle wrote:
Blows my mind that parents would be willing to pay for their child to go to one of these.


it blows your mind that parents want to see their children achieve their dreams?
Now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
February 16 2012 15:27 GMT
#8
On February 17 2012 00:20 zerotol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 23:50 Sayle wrote:
Blows my mind that parents would be willing to pay for their child to go to one of these.


it blows your mind that parents want to see their children achieve their dreams?

Well, there is a thing about Asian parents... but it would be unfair for me to use generalizations I guess :p
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
S2Glow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Singapore1042 Posts
February 16 2012 15:30 GMT
#9
wow my mom will kill me if i ask her like that
<3 Katelyn , C Zerg. Dying wish is to watch proleague live and see my girlfriend which gonna be soon! <33
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
February 16 2012 15:32 GMT
#10
On February 17 2012 00:30 S2Glow wrote:
wow my mom will kill me if i ask her like that

mine 2
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51521 Posts
February 16 2012 15:34 GMT
#11
surprised these are still around considering most prospective progamers have probably switched to sc2 in an attempt to earn money
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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary955 Posts
February 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#12
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)


link anyone?
agentzimp
TL+ Member
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
February 16 2012 16:36 GMT
#13
I am not wondering about the fact, that they pay for an progamer career, I am wondering more about the game. Yes BW is part of their culture and still popular. But you earn more money with sc2 plus in BW you actually only have good salaries if you are really good. But I think it is easier to become a very good competitor in sc2 as in BW, since the skill level in BW is already very very high.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
February 16 2012 16:43 GMT
#14
On February 17 2012 01:36 jaQi wrote:
I am not wondering about the fact, that they pay for an progamer career, I am wondering more about the game. Yes BW is part of their culture and still popular. But you earn more money with sc2 plus in BW you actually only have good salaries if you are really good. But I think it is easier to become a very good competitor in sc2 as in BW, since the skill level in BW is already very very high.


I don't think becoming a progamer is about money for most people.
BW forever || Thall
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
February 16 2012 16:52 GMT
#15
On February 17 2012 01:29 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)


link anyone?


I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
RHCPgergo
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Hungary345 Posts
February 16 2012 17:11 GMT
#16
On February 17 2012 01:52 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 01:29 zimp wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)


link anyone?


I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)


Aren't you talking about when he was in the eStro team house? Although that team is already gone, it was hardly an amateur house...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=107485
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
February 16 2012 17:12 GMT
#17
No, he was actually visiting a amateur house, where the amateurs paid to stay! :-)
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
February 16 2012 17:14 GMT
#18
On February 17 2012 01:43 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 01:36 jaQi wrote:
I am not wondering about the fact, that they pay for an progamer career, I am wondering more about the game. Yes BW is part of their culture and still popular. But you earn more money with sc2 plus in BW you actually only have good salaries if you are really good. But I think it is easier to become a very good competitor in sc2 as in BW, since the skill level in BW is already very very high.


I don't think becoming a progamer is about money for most people.


its all about the passion, why didnt i born in korea zomg ;_;
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2304 Posts
February 16 2012 18:19 GMT
#19
for some reason i was thinking of this yesterday...
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
February 16 2012 18:26 GMT
#20
On February 17 2012 01:52 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 01:29 zimp wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:19 dellesh1ruH wrote:
Yeah its true, I actually think Artosis once did a video of this. :-)


link anyone?


I remember he did a video for SCforall back then. I don't think its on Youtube. Maybe someone here have saved it on the computer? :-)



It was the [Name] house iirc. He did a tour of it back when [Name] was still around. Now afaik the house shut down and became a sc2 house.
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