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(4)Tropicanal
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hasuprotoss
United States4668 Posts
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StimulatedSpiderMine
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
 . I like the arrangement of the bridges, and the kind of mobility that it opens up. The positions of the mineral onlies and how they are accessible are, in my opinion, what makes this map interesting . (I'm also kind of jealous because I couldn't think of an interesting 4-player map design for the Blizzcon Map Contest  )Apart from that, it looks like a pretty standard map, so racial imbalance shouldn't be horrendous or anything. The centre might be a tad too tight, though. Also, the arrangement of the mains may introduce some positional imbalances, the way that one player's main cliff can overlook the other player's nat and min only area, to an extent. I suggest chopping-up the cliffs in those areas or lining them with water to create a buffer zone of impassable terrain. Actually I prefer the water solution because that way arial units won't have a sight-advantage from the cliff, either. The mains are huge right now, which will make it hard to defend against things like zerg mass-drops. Adding the impassable terrain areas (thus shrinking the mains) should help alleviate this problem. You're submitting this for the contest, right? I'm sure they're going to pick at least 1 or 2 maps that have more than 2 player spots, and I think your map has a really good chance of winning against other 4-player maps. Edit: Oh yeah, and I like how the geysers are positioned in the mains . | ||
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On August 06 2005 10:20 StimulatedSpiderMine wrote: looks very good looking but at a first glance it looked like lost temple :O More like Dahlia. | ||
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SP)diQ
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BTW 2 single bridges can be covered from main by T =((( | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On August 06 2005 11:01 SP)diQ wrote: Dahlia II. More zerg friendly yet still impossible 4 P =( BTW 2 single bridges can be covered from main by T =((( What? Aside from a visual resemblance, it's nothing like Dahlia. The 1st nat has gas, and the gas nat isn't far away from your ramp. Also the min only isn't easy-pickin's for lurkers. To me, the biggest problems PvZ would be the large mains and the way the nat is accessible, that makes hydras vs toss nat stronger for zerg than on, say, LT. (on the other hand there's no cliff, so unlike LT you don't need to worry about lurker drops on the nat cliff) Edit: Actually the main path to the nat looks pretty wide too. I think it should be a bit narrower, about 10 tiles (5 pylons) across, unless it's already that wide and I just can't judge the distance very well . | ||
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SP)diQ
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On August 06 2005 11:12 Bill307 wrote: What? Aside from a visual resemblance, it's nothing like Dahlia. The 1st nat has gas, and the gas nat isn't far away from your ramp. Also the min only isn't easy-pickin's for lurkers. 1nat is just switched with the corner gas exp + it`s really ez 2 defend just like on dahlia. And visual appearance is #1 factor So that makes it Z friendly Dahlia. Large mains also are + for Z but since u can`t build up outside they R neceassary. | ||
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Canada298 Posts
Thanks for your great feedbacks. I don't think it is dahlia.. well wasn't my idea. | ||
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ManOfManly
United States49 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
looks pretty much balanced, good-looking, very well done | ||
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Snooky
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BlueJays
Canada52 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
100% agreed with bill. absolutely beautiful map. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28874 Posts
then I looked more and I started liking it more and more now I like it quite a lot BUT im not so sure about the middle expansions. in my experience that makes tvp a boring matchup where terran always slow pushes (and gets 2 free expansions while doing so. ) might not be good in zvp either as zerg can turtle like crazy in the middle, although with all the unbuildable terran you've included this really shouldn't be a problem, so you can probably disregard that, and for tvz it doesn't matter. I think tvp might become pretty boring due to the middle expansions though, possibly imbalanced as well. but if it's pro protoss in other areas then maybe not. I definitely like the map but I think terran players who are really really good at slowpushing might become too hard to beat here. then again the middle expansions are pretty open so it might not matter but.. slowpushing is pretty hard to beat when properly executed on most maps and giving two expansions for terran might make it too hard. those expansions are also impossible for toss to hold in pvt. I have the same beef with gaia and I think the best terrans will be too strong there as well btw. | ||
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Canada298 Posts
!!!!!!I made some changes.. reduced red main, fixed some doodads.. I agree that those 2 expo will give terran user an opportunity to psuh slowly.. but i can't think of another setup right now for the expo. maybe i could reduce the amount of gas ? or put the geyser further then normally? like 2-3 squares away. I won't give it since I think i might enter it into the blizzcon contest aswell with my (2)Blue Horizon and (2)Arid or (2)S ignal Hmm, i was also thinking of another name and i came to (4)Ecuadorsal "ecuador" because of big jungle overthere ^.^ or i keep tropic"anal" like some1 said  ![[image loading]](http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8839/4ecuadorsal0hb.jpg) | ||
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![[image loading]](http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9316/4ecuadorsal7ci.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4023/2bluehorizon1io.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3217/2signal2vh.jpg) Though, i will wait till august 9 because i've just brainstorm all my ideas and i got a very good plan for another 4 player map :D | ||
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