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Wow i never noticed this, gee that's horrible.
Though i'm inclined to believe that my occasional problems with vods not being available is YT/GEMA cockblocking germans more than this. Still not a thing our community needs in these times, even if i see their point.
Huge thanks you deal with all this stuff Mokti!
Edit: Actually on a sidenote can i highjack this a bit? I didn't see anybody posting this so if anybody here has insight why apparently many Germans and Swedes can't watch the EsportsTV livestream (as of todays PL game, says an error ocurred video not available, VODs work fine) it would be heartily appreciated.
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Good new's guy english commentary are back and there are given blessings from esport tv . All nuke the stars previous taken down english proleague commentary vods are back . Seems like the esport tv people are really reasonable and they listen to us so in other words . I think we should start toning down our rage against them for taking down nevake .Here's their statement on the situation at hand.
Esport tv
We will only permit English commentary VODs. No other VODs will be allowed. However, keep these things in mind: We do not recognize their copyright. We only allow your service for eSports fans. I will listen your advice. If open beta period passes, shortcomings of our channel may be ameliorated. And, English commentary service also will prepare. thankU
I hope the same applies to sayle , can sayle try reuploading all the vods he previously cast ? because they have given their blessing that english commentaries can be casted again .
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United Kingdom3685 Posts
On December 15 2011 23:14 Sawamura wrote:Good new's guy english commentary are back and there are given blessings from esport tv . All nuke the stars previous taken down english proleague commentary vods are back . Seems like the esport tv people are really reasonable and they listen to us so in other words . I think we should start toning down our rage against them for taking down nevake .Here's their statement on the situation at hand. Show nested quote +Esport tv
We will only permit English commentary VODs. No other VODs will be allowed. However, keep these things in mind: We do not recognize their copyright. We only allow your service for eSports fans. I will listen your advice. If open beta period passes, shortcomings of our channel may be ameliorated. And, English commentary service also will prepare. thankU I hope the same applies to sayle , can sayle try reuploading all the vods he previously cast ? because they have given their blessing that english commentaries can be casted again .
Actually, I never deleted the previous casts, I just changed them to 'unlisted' so you couldn't search for them on Youtube. I think Nuke did the same (although he made them 'private'). The point is, all the videos he put back were never taken down in the first place, so I still don't know what happens if we try to upload a new one. I will set all my 'unlisted' videos back to 'public' and try a test upload of one new VOD to see if we get content-matched.
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On December 16 2011 00:02 Sayle wrote:
Actually, I never deleted the previous casts, I just changed them to 'unlisted' so you couldn't search for them on Youtube. I think Nuke did the same (although he made them 'private'). The point is, all the videos he put back were never taken down in the first place, so I still don't know what happens if we try to upload a new one. I will set all my 'unlisted' videos back to 'public' and try a test upload of one new VOD to see if we get content-matched.
Yeah, I just set that series to private. I deleted my most recent vod, however, because it gave me a copyright notice. I think I may have been the only one to get an actual copyright notice during this whole ordeal, which is strange. I'm guessing we'll have to kick each new upload back to EsportsTV for verification through a counter-claim. Kind of annoying, although I'm more scared that they're going to misclick and give me another copyright notice ;_;
Luckily, they mentioned that they had a translator on the way soon, so all the miscommunication should be worked out in the future. I sent them a message to independently confirm that I could start back up with casts, and the guy apologized for his English. I felt kinda bad.
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United Kingdom3685 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:48 NukeTheStars wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 00:02 Sayle wrote:
Actually, I never deleted the previous casts, I just changed them to 'unlisted' so you couldn't search for them on Youtube. I think Nuke did the same (although he made them 'private'). The point is, all the videos he put back were never taken down in the first place, so I still don't know what happens if we try to upload a new one. I will set all my 'unlisted' videos back to 'public' and try a test upload of one new VOD to see if we get content-matched. Yeah, I just set that series to private. I deleted my most recent vod, however, because it gave me a copyright notice. I think I may have been the only one to get an actual copyright notice during this whole ordeal, which is strange. I'm guessing we'll have to kick each new upload back to EsportsTV for verification through a counter-claim. Kind of annoying, although I'm more scared that they're going to misclick and give me another copyright notice ;_; Luckily, they mentioned that they had a translator on the way soon, so all the miscommunication should be worked out in the future. I sent them a message to independently confirm that I could start back up with casts, and the guy apologized for his English. I felt kinda bad.
No, nevake and I both got copyright notices. The most annoying thing for me in regards to the copyright notices is that it removes my ability to upload videos longer than 15 minutes. As far as I know, this doesn't happen to nevake (and presumably not to you either) because his account is much older than mine. That's why I don't really want to risk it and have it affect my uploads of foreign event casts.
The translator thing is certainly good news, but makes me wonder why they didn't have a translator to begin with. You shouldn't feel bad, it was a mistake on their part.
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I'm just glad this whole thing is winding down and we can just get back to watching English commentary again.
Off topic: While reading the exchange between Sayle and Nuke, I could almost hear them talking to each other. Like a dual or something.
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Just wondering...
Why dejavu didnt have any problems with his commentaries??
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They should make a contract with nuke and sayle so they can finally have a carreer as proffesional starcraft broodwar comentators, oh yeah
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moktira
Ireland1548 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:55 Sayle wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 01:48 NukeTheStars wrote:On December 16 2011 00:02 Sayle wrote:
Actually, I never deleted the previous casts, I just changed them to 'unlisted' so you couldn't search for them on Youtube. I think Nuke did the same (although he made them 'private'). The point is, all the videos he put back were never taken down in the first place, so I still don't know what happens if we try to upload a new one. I will set all my 'unlisted' videos back to 'public' and try a test upload of one new VOD to see if we get content-matched. Yeah, I just set that series to private. I deleted my most recent vod, however, because it gave me a copyright notice. I think I may have been the only one to get an actual copyright notice during this whole ordeal, which is strange. I'm guessing we'll have to kick each new upload back to EsportsTV for verification through a counter-claim. Kind of annoying, although I'm more scared that they're going to misclick and give me another copyright notice ;_; Luckily, they mentioned that they had a translator on the way soon, so all the miscommunication should be worked out in the future. I sent them a message to independently confirm that I could start back up with casts, and the guy apologized for his English. I felt kinda bad. No, nevake and I both got copyright notices. The most annoying thing for me in regards to the copyright notices is that it removes my ability to upload videos longer than 15 minutes. As far as I know, this doesn't happen to nevake (and presumably not to you either) because his account is much older than mine. That's why I don't really want to risk it and have it affect my uploads of foreign event casts. The translator thing is certainly good news, but makes me wonder why they didn't have a translator to begin with. You shouldn't feel bad, it was a mistake on their part.
A copyright strike is different to a content ID match, if you get three copyright strikes they ban you (this is what happened to Jon747), I didn't get a strike on nevake, just content ID matches and videos being blocked, not sure why Nuke got one, but I did unlist VODs quite quickly, as did you, so maybe they gave Nuke a strike just to prove they were serious as that was a bit later. Either way I do think it's very unfair that he got a strike at all but I'm glad this is being resolved. They are listening to feedback which is good.
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guys can any1 knowledgeable answer my question about the TLPD links? is it legal to add links to the esportstv vods instead of nevake ones to the database? Will this be implemented? At the moment all the new games have no vods attached, even though there are vods available 
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TLPD should probably start to be linke to EsportsTV. Maybe Mok could upload and unlist VODs as well just incase.
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On December 16 2011 08:59 Antisocialmunky wrote:
TLPD should probably start to be linke to EsportsTV. Maybe Mok could upload and unlist VODs as well just incase.
he can't do that , because if he uploads the proleague matches it would get id match by the you tube system and the video is block .
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...but we can link to TLPD right..?
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On December 16 2011 14:26 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
...but we can link to TLPD right..?
yeah that shouldn't be a problem 
On December 16 2011 14:18 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Unlisted?
youtube detection system will detect it and block the video .
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These copyright claims seem like bullshit to me. If these people really cared about the foreign scene then they would have reached out to us sooner. Otherwise they are just hurting the foreign scene with these copyright claims that have 0 substance from what I read.
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Norway1530 Posts
I have linked all the new VODs to TLPD, sorry for the delay. I've been busy with exams for the last couple of days, and was also not sure whether or not we were going to link EsportsTV VODs. Anyways, I will try to add them as fast as possible from now on!
Also, please pm me if there is anything I can help you with regarding VODs and/or TLPD!
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Now about future OSL videos at youtube. Are they okay to upload? I know its got nothing to do with PL etc but better to start worry now
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Norway1530 Posts
They should be okay. As far as I know, IEG rights include SC:BW and SF Proleague only.
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On December 15 2011 09:52 Shurayuki wrote:
Edit: Actually on a sidenote can i highjack this a bit? I didn't see anybody posting this so if anybody here has insight why apparently many Germans and Swedes can't watch the EsportsTV livestream (as of todays PL game, says an error ocurred video not available, VODs work fine) it would be heartily appreciated.
Its all thanks to our good law-system...
They need a licence from the mediainstitute (?) or arent sure about that,so they cut off germany.Not sure about sweden though,they may have a similar system.
It isnt sure yet if or when it will be available,but expect never...
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On December 16 2011 06:19 therockmanxx wrote:
Just wondering...
Why dejavu didnt have any problems with his commentaries??
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They should make a contract with nuke and sayle so they can finally have a carreer as proffesional starcraft broodwar comentators, oh yeah
I got content ID matches on my most recent commentaries too. I pmed and disputed them myself. Didn't post anything in here because nothing new or different with my situation. Though everything is online and working again now.
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