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Ranshin
Profile Joined September 2009
7 Posts
December 14 2011 02:31 GMT
#221
Nuke's Plan B would probably not make people happy, according to him.
It's very hush hush though.
Be a man, grin and bear it.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 14 2011 02:46 GMT
#222
plan b being a different video hosting site?
Writer
oldfartz
Profile Joined October 2011
Philippines117 Posts
December 14 2011 02:53 GMT
#223
the need to put subtitles - all they need really. personally english casts over pro korean games ruin the whole experience for me. with the TSL and foreign tourneys its great, but i just dont like english voices over pro korean games.
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
December 14 2011 05:32 GMT
#224
I still think nevake was a better channel.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
December 14 2011 05:44 GMT
#225
i notice that the TLPD is not being updated with new vod links is this impossible now that theyre not on nevake, or can we just link to the esportstv vods? the TLPD vods are/have been such an amazingly useful feature, I really hope we can continue to update them.
aka DragOn[NaS]
dobbersp
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 06:02:42
December 14 2011 06:02 GMT
#226
I think we should use TLPD links as a bargaining chip. Our community here at TL is a potential funnel of users for them, and we could help them acquire a great mass of views. Views = $$$ (which is apparently what they are after). However, we might be able to bargain for some sort of exception/partnership for specific english casters like Nuke.

There is a way to have this be a win/win for all parties involved, but a conversation needs to occur between a TL representative and an IEG representative.

I've sent them a plea in English, but haven't heard an response. We need a translator with an official association with TL to contact them to inquire about possible partnerships.

Who can do this!?

PS, Just finished reading the Glider thread and I'm in "unite Esports and fight" mode.
though the dark may come, the Sun also rises.
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:01:06
December 14 2011 08:59 GMT
#227
ESportsTV just put this on their Youtube channel as a Bulletin:


ESportsTV:
On the one hand, it is sorry that stop commentary service impatiently.
most are blocked automatically by YouTube system.
I request comprehension about this segment to you.
Now, I will listen your advice.
If open beta period passes, shortcomings of our channel may be ameliorated.
And, English commentary service also will prepare.
thankU

ESportsTV:
We will be good if many foreigners enjoyed e-sports.
We can produce contents efficiently than someone in Korea.
So, we began service in YouTube.
We are providing VOD service with real-time live of Korean SPL/SF2 league.
However, we were not to consider.
It is English commentary service.
Now, we can not provide English commentary service.
because many foreign fans suffer discomfort, we permit english commentary service.
We will not stop English commentary services of other channel from today.
<---- AWWWW YEAH


Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV?feature=g-all
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
December 14 2011 09:03 GMT
#228
That's awesome news, but how do we prevent the videos from getting flagged in the first place? As they said, the Youtube content matching is automatic and it would be a huge hassle to have to dispute copyright on every single video (not to mention, unlimited video length would be disabled on the channel until disputes are resolved).
JosephStalin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States20 Posts
December 14 2011 13:44 GMT
#229
On December 14 2011 18:03 Sayle wrote:
That's awesome news, but how do we prevent the videos from getting flagged in the first place? As they said, the Youtube content matching is automatic and it would be a huge hassle to have to dispute copyright on every single video (not to mention, unlimited video length would be disabled on the channel until disputes are resolved).


Change the name of the video title for exmaple: "SPL CJvT8 1,2,3,4,5" or maybe make it less obvious (use enigma code :p)
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 14 2011 13:47 GMT
#230
On December 14 2011 18:03 Sayle wrote:
That's awesome news, but how do we prevent the videos from getting flagged in the first place? As they said, the Youtube content matching is automatic and it would be a huge hassle to have to dispute copyright on every single video (not to mention, unlimited video length would be disabled on the channel until disputes are resolved).

They must have some exception system in place over at youtube?
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
December 14 2011 14:10 GMT
#231
On December 14 2011 22:44 JosephStalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:03 Sayle wrote:
That's awesome news, but how do we prevent the videos from getting flagged in the first place? As they said, the Youtube content matching is automatic and it would be a huge hassle to have to dispute copyright on every single video (not to mention, unlimited video length would be disabled on the channel until disputes are resolved).


Change the name of the video title for exmaple: "SPL CJvT8 1,2,3,4,5" or maybe make it less obvious (use enigma code :p)


The video name has nothing to do with it. The content matching system checks the actual video/audio. Also, the point is to have them not flag us in the first place, not find fancy ways of dodging the content matcher.

On December 14 2011 22:47 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:03 Sayle wrote:
That's awesome news, but how do we prevent the videos from getting flagged in the first place? As they said, the Youtube content matching is automatic and it would be a huge hassle to have to dispute copyright on every single video (not to mention, unlimited video length would be disabled on the channel until disputes are resolved).

They must have some exception system in place over at youtube?


Probably yes, but I don't really know. And if there is, it would most likely require IEG to tell Youtube which channels to exempt from content matching in a process that may be difficult for them considering the level of English they've shown so far.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 14:27:23
December 14 2011 14:22 GMT
#232
Holy freaking awesome that's great.

As appreciation, I'll just go load every single video I watch on Nuke or Sayle on Esports TV.

:O

I hope they don't stop reblocking when their own english commentary goes out.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Tadah
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden120 Posts
December 14 2011 16:16 GMT
#233
If someone plans to get in contact with EsportsTV then I would emplore you to tell them about the issues that people from certain countries (such as mine) are facing, namely that we simply cannot watch any of the live PL coverage. For now, we have reliable streamers who does the job admirably, but there will of course come a time when, like today, problems arise and the only other stream available is the one provided by EsportsTV. Which is why I think it's important to get this fixed asap.

I have already written to them on their youtube account to inform them of this issue and suggest that others do the same. And as I said, if someone knows of some other, perhaps more reliable means of getting in touch with them to bring this problem to their attention then please do so on the behalf of me and everyone else who suffers this same issue. It would be really appreciated.
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
December 14 2011 16:43 GMT
#234
On December 14 2011 23:22 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I hope they don't stop reblocking when their own english commentary goes out.


They already stated they wouldn't be providing English commentary. Read it again.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 14 2011 17:39 GMT
#235
On December 15 2011 01:43 Fiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 23:22 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I hope they don't stop reblocking when their own english commentary goes out.


They already stated they wouldn't be providing English commentary. Read it again.



...
If open beta period passes, shortcomings of our channel may be ameliorated.
And, English commentary service also will prepare.
thankU


Am I misunderstanding?
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 17:40:53
December 14 2011 17:40 GMT
#236
"Now, we can not provide English commentary service."
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 14 2011 18:19 GMT
#237
It doesn't mean they will go to english commentary eventually.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 18:31:33
December 14 2011 18:31 GMT
#238
On December 15 2011 02:40 Fiel wrote:
"Now, we can not provide English commentary service."

"Now" means at this time. Maybe or maybe not they might do something in the future. Obviously if there were a big foreign market, they would consider paying English casters and giving good production values. For now they say 'we'll let them do their own commentaries' because they want to see if we are big enough. If Sayle's lucky maybe in a year he'll have a job like Tasteless

I'm disappointed in today's match's audio desync tho. I hope they'll fix that.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 00:42:32
December 15 2011 00:38 GMT
#239
Awesome news!! In retrospect it will be a lot better to have everything 'officially' uploaded to Youtube without the semi-fear/unknowing of it getting taken down / our whole database getting wiped out (RIP Jon747). I know its backed up, but its gonna take a lot of work to re-up all the vods. Its a lot better this way And its awesome to see EsportsTV work with us and move forward (aspect ratio fix, english vods, etc.)

Also, an update from Nukes twitter:
Trying to get a confirmation message, but it looks like I might be able to get back to some good old-fashioned commentary soon.. maybe!
Looks like were nearly back in business boys!
Jaedong.
Le French
Profile Joined December 2011
France782 Posts
December 15 2011 00:43 GMT
#240
Copyright is a horrible thing when it comes to public information.
It is useful, but not perfect.
Ca va?
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