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BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
December 08 2011 23:13 GMT
#181
So, does that mean TL is going to stop uploading torrents for SPL?
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
December 09 2011 00:35 GMT
#182
And here I was writing a guide on how SC2 players can get into brood war. This uncertainty doesn't bode well for guide writing.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 00:48:29
December 09 2011 00:46 GMT
#183
On December 09 2011 05:40 kamikami wrote:
You guys are freaking out for nothing.

First, what's wrong with Kespa opening a YouTube channel and provide their own contents for (practically) free ? This is only a good thing. They channel has ads yes but first, it's their own contents and second, they are a non-profit, so the money will go back to developping Esport.

Next, from the email they responded to Mortika it's just obvious that they will let the old VODs on Nevake alone and just prevent people from uploading Vods of the current season. It's good for Esport because people will just watch Vods in their channel and indirectly support Esport by viewing ads, what's the point of having 2 channel uploading at the same time ? It's just a waste of time and effort and a loss of money for esport. Until now they don't ask to remove old Vods, so there's nothing wrong with it.

Lastly, they still didn't take any actions about streams yet, and until they do something bad (shut down restreams...) they are , for now, just providing another stream for esport, this can only be a good thing. And I think they won't shut down restreams at all, so for now they are doing good, so please stop stupid "speculations" lol.

The thing is, the next step up from forcing us to remove VODs from this season is to remove VODs from past seasons as well. It's actually not very clear at the moment whether they want us to remove those. As far as I know the people running nevake are currently removing VODs of this season and seeing if they still get messages from IEG. Rather than just sitting back and saying "ok" when KeSPA shows that they're actually taking some sort of action in the foreign scene, we should work proactively to keep our archive and streams secure, as well as establishing a partnership if possible.

EDIT: if anything, I'd say it's likely that they ask us to take down old videos as well. As far as we know, IEG has not purchased rights to the current SPL season, but they did get the rights for 2007~2010 from KeSPA.
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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
December 09 2011 01:17 GMT
#184
I'd like to see some sort of confirmation that IEG even has the rights to this season. I thought KeSPA couldn't sell the rights anymore, since they're licensing them from Blizzard?
I drop suckas like Plinko
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
December 09 2011 01:47 GMT
#185
TVOngamenet

You think that Ongamenet will upload future OSLs here? They have uploaded variety shows in here so far.

In the comments it said that it is the official Ongamenet Youtube channel.
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BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
December 09 2011 02:42 GMT
#186
Keep asking the right question guys!
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
December 09 2011 04:07 GMT
#187
I got a response from EsportsTV people.

Here it is

"We have to exercise legitimate rights.

We do not take away Naveke efforts.
Thanks to his efforts.
If possible, I want to cooperate with him.

Anyway,
Through this channel, you will be able to enjoy e-sports.
Please cheer for us."

Now mind you. I did not even metion nevake nor the vods of any kind.

Here is what I sent to them eariler.

"I was wondering if you thought of using a better streaming service to broadcast live stream of the starcraft games.

Youtube for us users was laggy and was unenjoyable. If you use a service like ustream or own3d. You can make a better streaming service for all foreign fans."

So I think they are giving out a standard response to everyone who sends them e-mail in english.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 09 2011 06:08 GMT
#188
Where need koreans to send questions it seems.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
December 09 2011 06:23 GMT
#189
I just hope that this issue gets resolve, BW does not need anymore drama...
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 06:56:45
December 09 2011 06:56 GMT
#190
j/w does somebody have the nevake vods backed up locally somewhere?
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
December 09 2011 07:24 GMT
#191
Why can't the world just leave BW alone? First Jon747 and now leaving Nevake hanging with uncertainties...

"Satisfying the demands of overseas fans is more important to us than any youtube profits"

Yeah, right...
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
December 09 2011 07:49 GMT
#192
Were going to love BW no matter how hard they make it damn it!
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
December 09 2011 09:10 GMT
#193
I actually like the youtube service, the quality is really good. If only they would add a chat service for the yt stream or open a thread here so we can communicate with them directly...
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 09 2011 09:23 GMT
#194
There is a chat. but the stream distorts with straight horizontal lines when theres movement :S looks like garbage
Writer
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
December 09 2011 09:43 GMT
#195
On December 09 2011 15:56 waxypants wrote:
j/w does somebody have the nevake vods backed up locally somewhere?


I do. I have over 50GB of Flash games I downloaded from the YT channel. I know Moktira has at least 1 - 2TB of games.

If Nevake ever goes down, Flash will not be forgotten. <3
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 09 2011 11:06 GMT
#196
The stream looked much better today till the 2 hour mark when it randomly decided to go 5 minutes back in time for me. If they completely fix lag and properly deinterlace, it would be pretty sweet.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
December 09 2011 14:59 GMT
#197
On December 09 2011 18:23 Kiante wrote:
There is a chat. but the stream distorts with straight horizontal lines when theres movement :S looks like garbage


Thats how OGN stream has always been. >.> I don't know why but if you watch on OGN stream its like that.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
December 09 2011 15:01 GMT
#198
They have fixed the aspect ratio now, so it's in 4:3.

So they are listening to feedback which is encouraging. Also they have said no more about removing old VODs from nevake so far, they just thanked me for taking down the SK Proleague ones. Hopefully they'll leave nevake alone now.

On December 09 2011 15:56 waxypants wrote:
j/w does somebody have the nevake vods backed up locally somewhere?

Everything is backed up yeah.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 09 2011 15:04 GMT
#199
someone needs to tell them to fix the lag/delay/deinterlacing then we're good to go!
Writer
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
December 09 2011 15:08 GMT
#200
Yeah, and to somehow make exceptions for content id matches for english commentators. The delay wasn't as bad today as yesterday so maybe they're working on it.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
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