EPTTerran lecture from Professor Flash - Page 2
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Sawamura
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Termit
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alypse
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51629 Posts
On December 01 2011 00:37 alypse wrote: To further analyze Flash's words: You need to think about the next game when playing the current game. pfff its actually the next 5 games,but he makes sure suny takes one step at a time. | ||
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Gladiator6
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Rodiel3
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
flash: if you think about it, who can't multitask these days? everyone is good at it. the best players i think are the ones who do only the things that really matter. important part, i feel like there are many speed-freaks out there in bw and sc2 and sometimes the goal to be faster makes you feel the game is smoother, however if you think about being faster ingame then you probably doing something wrong, no one should think while playing the game to be faster just for sake to be faster, it will make him do bad judgements ingame(becasuse he stopped focusing on actual game but on his performance), i actually salute to players who can slow down(consciously) and do some part 2 times slower just to do it right, everyone should know their weaknesses and strengths note: im not saying that being slow is good you can clearly see his advices being reflected in his own FP VODs | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 Flash increased his APM significantly if you look at his God era and then compare it to his old days. | ||
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chaosTheory_14cc
Canada1270 Posts
On December 01 2011 00:35 Termit wrote: Actually when I think about it, there is hotkeys I'm not 100% sure of when it comes to games I have been playing alot (BW, sc2, HoN etc) when I'm not in the game. But when I am actually playing, I don't think about it and the hand just goes with the flow. Pretty wierd to know the hotkeys but at the same time you don't. ಠ_ಠ Yeah, I'm pretty sure it all has something to do with muscle memory. You might not remember exactly what hotkeys you used in a game you previously played, but if you were to put your hands on the keyboard and/or play, you'd probably be able to feel which hotkeys you use. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:23 bgx wrote: important part, i feel like there are many speed-freaks out there in bw and sc2 and sometimes the goal to be faster makes you feel the game is smoother, however if you think about being faster ingame then you probably doing something wrong, no one should think while playing the game to be faster just for sake to be faster, it will make him do bad judgements ingame(becasuse he stopped focusing on actual game but on his performance), i actually salute to players who can slow down(consciously) and do some part 2 times slower just to do it right, everyone should know their weaknesses and strengths note: im not saying that being slow is good you can clearly see his advices being reflected in his own FP VODs Forgg in his prime , in the year 2008 you can clearly see his apm really fast , not only he switches screen back and forth , he still manages to macro,micro ,efficiently despite having really fast movement on screen . I think it's a matter of preference,some people just prefer to play it fast and yet still being able to make the correct DECISION. As seen in this video , xellos has it's own macro timing order and he despite missing his refinery , seems that he has a habit of macroing every few second although he may not realize he's not doing anything . I think there's pro's and con's however the only way to improve is to play faster and make strategy on the fly .Macro mechanics is improvable , game sense on the other hand takes lot of time ... | ||
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Mumei
United States270 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:26 Holgerius wrote: You obviously want to be fast as well. Flash increased his APM significantly if you look at his God era and then compare it to his old days. Out of curiosity, do you have numbers (APM) that show a difference? | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:26 Holgerius wrote: You obviously want to be fast as well. Flash increased his APM significantly if you look at his God era and then compare it to his old days. You don't need a lot of APM if you keep dying early game because you went 14CC. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:23 bgx wrote: important part, i feel like there are many speed-freaks out there in bw and sc2 and sometimes the goal to be faster makes you feel the game is smoother, however if you think about being faster ingame then you probably doing something wrong, no one should think while playing the game to be faster just for sake to be faster, it will make him do bad judgements ingame(becasuse he stopped focusing on actual game but on his performance), i actually salute to players who can slow down(consciously) and do some part 2 times slower just to do it right, everyone should know their weaknesses and strengths note: im not saying that being slow is good you can clearly see his advices being reflected in his own FP VODs So wise. Players like flash pick their timings on when to multitask and attack everywhere at once and think about it strategically. Makes me sad when I see pro level players just doing shit without thinking about it because they have nothing else to do and they just end up losing shit. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:34 Antisocialmunky wrote: You don't need a lot of APM if you keep dying early game because you went 14CC. no the old old days where he cheesed all the time | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:28 Sawamura wrote: Forgg in his prime , in the year 2008 you can clearly see his apm really fast , not only he switches screen back and forth , he still manages to macro,micro ,efficiently despite having really fast movement on screen . I think it's a matter of preference,some people just prefer to play it fast and yet still being able to make the correct DECISION. As seen in this video , xellos has it's own macro timing order and he despite missing his refinery , seems that he has a habit of macroing every few second although he may not realize he's not doing anything . I think there's pro's and con's however the only way to improve is to play faster and make strategy on the fly .Macro mechanics is improvable , game sense on the other hand takes lot of time ... im not talking about top-top players, but about players to aim being higher, forgg or xellos had both already burnt down their macro cycles into their brain so even if you told to do 6 port cloak wraith build(random) they would still didnt miss their macro cycles timings, hell they wouldnt even been able to tell you their specifics of macro because they probably forgot it, same as flash forgot his control groups, thats how deep muscle memory works, you dont think about walking, you just do it (bad example maybe, but you get the idea :p) my post didnt say that you shouldnt improve your speed/macro but to play conciously and focus on things that matter, and that alone should MEAN to macro, but ideally you shoudlnt even think about macro, because thinking about macro is like thinking about your next step while running marathon edit: there are exceptions to it of course, but we are talking about macro cycles not exceptions (like stopping scv production, saving money, peculiar in-game situations etc) | ||
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:29 Mumei wrote: Out of curiosity, do you have numbers (APM) that show a difference? Find his 2008 replays. Then compare APM with current replays. Its higher~ | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:29 Mumei wrote: Out of curiosity, do you have numbers (APM) that show a difference? Yeah, that will be interesting. I never knew Flash`s APM, but it always seemed to me, that he is not crazy fast. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5617 Posts
Walter Benjamin says in an essay that there are things that are unforgettable even though no one remembers them: they are in the memory of God. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 01 2011 01:29 Mumei wrote: Out of curiosity, do you have numbers (APM) that show a difference? I don't think I have any of his older reps on my comp atm to give exact numbers, but I remember him typically being at mid-high 200's, like 280 or so. Now, if you look at his more recent reps such as the WCG games vs Kal and JD, he's consistently lying around 330. There has been a significant rise in APM. | ||
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