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Mumei

United States270 Posts

November 30 2011 17:28 GMT

#41

On December 01 2011 01:39 Black[CAT] wrote:

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Find his 2008 replays. Then compare APM with current replays. Its higher~

Okay~

I have quite a few replays from various packages and whatnot on TL, so:

2007

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Flash vs Jaedong (?) July 2007 - 310 APM
Flash vs Jaedong (Monty Hall) - July 2007 - 296
Flash vs Chojja (?) - July 2007 - 295
Flash vs Bisu (Python) July 2007 - 292
Flash vs YellOw (Python) - July 2007 - 322
Flash vs Jangbi (Python) - September 2007 - 285
Flash vs Kal (Katrina 1.3) - October 2007 - 272
Flash vs Memory (Python) - October 2007 - 282
Flash vs Jaedong (Python) - December 2007 - 325

2008

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Flash vs Bisu (Blue Storm) - January 2008 - 259
Flash vs Jaehoon (Blue Storm) - January 2008 - 310
Flash vs Stork (Katrina) March 2008 - 297
Flash vs Stork (?) March 2008 - 283
Flash vs Reach (Blue Storm) - April 2008 - 261
Flash vs Iris (?) - April 2008 - 296
Flash vs Iris (?) - April 2008 - 281
Flash vs EffOrt (Andromeda) - May 2008 - 271
Flash vs Best (Colosseum) - May 2008 - 251
Flash vs Best Colosseum) - May 2008 - 249
Flash vs Fantasy (?) - May 2008 - 256
Flash vs Fantasy (Andromeda) May 2008 - 279
Flash vs Zero (Destination) December 2008 - 269
Flash vs Zero (Destination) December 2008 - 302
Flash vs Zero (Destination) December 2008 - 317
Flash vs Sea.Geumchi December 2008 - 338

2009

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Flash vs Tempest (Destination) May 2009 - 299
Flash vs Stats (Destination) May 2009 - 298
Flash vs Stats (Destination) May 2009 - 286
Flash vs Stats (?) - May 2009 - 280
Flash vs Stats (?) - May 2009 - 278
Flash vs Lucifer (?) - May 2009 - 295
Flash vs Violet (?) - May 2009 - 284
Flash vs ForGG (Destination) - May 2009 - 289
Flash vs Hero (Destination) - May 2009 - 259
Flash vs Firefist (Outsider) - May 2009 - 308
Flash vs Hoejja (Destination) - May 2009 - 291
Flash vs Hero (Destination) - May 2009 - 277
Flash vs Hoejja (Outsider) - May 2009 - 307
Flash vs 815 (Destination) - May 2009 - 285
Flash vs Stats (?) - June 2009 - 295
Flash vs Tempest (?) - June 2009 - 296
Flash vs forGG (Neo Medusa) - 307

[skipping some stuff because I'm tired of 2009]

2010

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Flash vs EffOrt (?) - January 2010 - 337 APM
Flash vs EffOrt (MatchPoint) - January 2010 - 320
Flash vs SaviOr (Ultimatum) - January 2010 - 288
Flash vs mtw.infernal (Outsider SE) - October 2010 - 368
Flash vs Cn.Vulture - (?) - October 2010 - 367
Flash vs LimbiC (Destination) - October 2010 - 379
Flash vs E3. Legend (?) - October 2010 - 344
Flash vs Jaedong (?) October 2010 - 325
Flash vs Jaedong (Match Point) October 2010 - 324
Flash vs Jaedong (Tau Cross) October 2010 - 321
Flash vs Jaedong (Fighting Spirit) October 2010 - 325
Flash vs Kal (Outsider) October 2010 - 330
Flash vs Kal (Destination) October 2010 - 336

2011

Flash vs Shine (Fighting Spirit) February 2011 - 357

? is if the map name didn't display properly in BWChart; I don't really feel like checking every replay like that and trying to learn what map it was.

Edit: Added spoiler tags~

I do see what you mean, though. I think that it is more his speed against Terran and particularly Protoss that has increased; his speed against Zerg seems fairly consistent over the course of his career.

forsooth

United States3648 Posts

November 30 2011 21:05 GMT

#42

On December 01 2011 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:

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god hands have a memory of their own.

Sounds kind of like how you get to know a keyboard over time. I can sit here and type all day, but if someone were to ask me what the middle row of keys was in order, I wouldn't be able to tell them.

Xiphos

Canada7507 Posts

November 30 2011 21:12 GMT

#43

I think that for those who wishes to start playing BW have to get a hotkey setup for THEMSELVES. Meaning that DO NOT ask what other's hotkeys are but to find their own habit.

Golgotha

Korea (South)8418 Posts

November 30 2011 21:15 GMT

#44

flash is just saying that if you have to sacrifice one thing, sacrifice macro for micro (even if it slows down your macro) a bit more than the other way around. which i must say is true. but then again macro is so important so i dont know. i guess at the pro level everyone can macro like a god so micro should be focused on.

Noxie

United States2227 Posts

November 30 2011 21:19 GMT

#45

Thanks for the translation!!

Crisium

United States1618 Posts

November 30 2011 21:57 GMT

#46

Interesting stuff. Thanks for the translation, zeehar, and the APM stats, Mumei.

firehand101

Australia3152 Posts

November 30 2011 22:03 GMT

#47

Thank you for the translation, love to hear BW legends lessons!

pinkranger15

Philippines1597 Posts

November 30 2011 22:17 GMT

#48

woow. thanks for the translation and the video. hope there will also be a toss tutorial..or even for the zerg lol

Kal_rA

United States2925 Posts

November 30 2011 22:36 GMT

#49

On December 01 2011 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:

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god hands have a memory of their own.

mechanical arms have 'flash' memory heh heh

Motivate

2860 Posts

December 01 2011 01:04 GMT

#50

lol so weird to see flash calling suny "sunny-hyung"

suny is actually really old. considering he is probably the worst progamer around right now, it baffles me that he hasn't retired :S

thenexusp

United States3721 Posts

December 01 2011 02:52 GMT

#51

On December 01 2011 06:15 Golgotha wrote:
flash is just saying that if you have to sacrifice one thing, sacrifice macro for micro (even if it slows down your macro) a bit more than the other way around. which i must say is true. but then again macro is so important so i dont know. i guess at the pro level everyone can macro like a god so micro should be focused on.

I don't think he's necessarily saying that, but he's saying there are some important micro decisions that are really important (apparently positioning your tank line correctly can mean a 70 food difference in army power) - the main theme is to do what's important and not just spam apm for apm's sake

Zona

40426 Posts

December 01 2011 04:57 GMT

#52

The translation was enlightening, thanks.

Release

United States4397 Posts

December 01 2011 05:04 GMT

#53

I have never seen a true 150 army ever alive. I always see maybe max at around 125 because zerg tend to under saturate minerals when they have ton of gas. I remember one of flash's huge mechballs and i remember well below 100 food. I can't imagine what a 150 vs 200 looks like:
maybe the 150 wins and then the 200 (now 0) starts making probes LOL

Duka08

3391 Posts

December 01 2011 05:06 GMT

#54

"flash: if you think about it, who can't multitask these days? everyone is good at it. the best players i think are the ones who do only the things that really matter."

Mind exploding. I love flash I love brood warrrrrrr

jjhchsc2

Korea (South)2393 Posts

December 01 2011 05:34 GMT

#55

nice find!

SoKHo

Korea (South)1081 Posts

December 01 2011 05:44 GMT

#56

was going to translate, but got ninja'ed, great translation zeehar

red4ce

United States7313 Posts

December 01 2011 07:09 GMT

#57

Lol silly Flash, of course you don't know your hotkeys it was programmed into your fingers.

Thanks seol for posting and Zeehar for the translation.

Grobyc

Canada18410 Posts

December 01 2011 08:46 GMT

#58

Thanks zeehar

I think you meant subconsciously instead of unconsciously in the translation btw.

I really like how Flash emphasizes on putting focus on your engagements, positioning, and focusing on the important things at hand. It's unbelievable how much you can turn the tide in an engagement if you are carefully prepared and positioned well.

Railxp

Hong Kong1313 Posts

December 01 2011 09:29 GMT

#59

flash speaks with so much more conviction and authority in his tone of voice than i expected he would @_@

United States1177 Posts

December 01 2011 09:35 GMT

#60

On November 30 2011 23:12 zeehar wrote:

flash: suny hyung, your tank lines are really shoddy... how your tanks are arranged is really really important
in tvp, if your tank line isn't good, even a 180 supply toss can break your 200 army. but if it's good, your 150 army can hold off a 200 toss

Holy. If flash called me out on something wrong with my gameplay, you can bet I won't make the same mistake ever again in my life.

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