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jaymik
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)425 Posts
November 19 2011 13:18 GMT
#1
With changes announced for the new season, fans remain divided. Some of the biggest changes include no winners league and no ace matches.

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121240&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
November 19 2011 13:28 GMT
#2
no winner's league is something I don't think that anything I say would be taken seriously because of the tag I wear.
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
November 19 2011 13:28 GMT
#3
Why are Koreans reacting negatively towards two sets of games on Saturday and Sunday?
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 13:32:47
November 19 2011 13:29 GMT
#4
What's with the camera pic?
Am I not getting a joke here...
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oh jay you so clever
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
November 19 2011 13:30 GMT
#5
On November 19 2011 22:28 Hier wrote:
Why are Koreans reacting negatively towards two sets of games on Saturday and Sunday?



They struggle to find time to watch the games.

Bo5 with ace is pretty imbalanced for certain teams, but damn no more epic games
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Fireflies
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom211 Posts
November 19 2011 13:37 GMT
#6
No winner's league? What a shame, I always thought some of the best matches happened there.
One giant leap for mankind
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8857 Posts
November 19 2011 13:40 GMT
#7
i dont have the time to read the article so im just gonna ask here
no winners league is a shock to me already but whats up with this no ace match thing?
we gonna start seeing a league system similar to football where a tie is 1 point or something?
and i dont see how fans could be divided on this...no winners league and no ace matches just made scbw lose so much entertainment value
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 13:43:55
November 19 2011 13:41 GMT
#8
On November 19 2011 22:29 OpticalShot wrote:
What's with the camera pic?
Am I not getting a joke here...
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oh jay you so clever
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That picture only clicked when I saw your email address at the end of the article.

On November 19 2011 22:28 Hier wrote:
Why are Koreans reacting negatively towards two sets of games on Saturday and Sunday?

Back to back Bo5 will probably average out like 4-5 hours or something, some days it'll be longer, some days it'll be shorter. It's a big time commitment if you want to keep up with all the games played (but it's not like they can't watch vods later if they need to be somewhere else, I guess it's mostly for the people who want to watch live?). I wonder how many people will stay for both matches.

Guess we'll only see All-Kills in the STX Cup, that is if it's still running.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 19 2011 13:42 GMT
#9
wats with the camera i dont get it
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Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
November 19 2011 13:42 GMT
#10
On November 19 2011 22:40 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i dont have the time to read the article so im just gonna ask here
no winners league is a shock to me already but whats up with this no ace match thing?
we gonna start seeing a league system similar to football where a tie is 1 point or something?
and i dont see how fans could be divided on this...no winners league and no ace matches just made scbw lose so much entertainment value


Its Bo5, so it cant be tie @.@

At the very least, I was hoping it to be Bo7 no ACE match...
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
November 19 2011 13:43 GMT
#11
On November 19 2011 22:40 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i dont have the time to read the article so im just gonna ask here
no winners league is a shock to me already but whats up with this no ace match thing?
we gonna start seeing a league system similar to football where a tie is 1 point or something?
and i dont see how fans could be divided on this...no winners league and no ace matches just made scbw lose so much entertainment value


There can't be a tie as it's a bo5. It's just that if the 5th game is needed, a player who has already played can't play again in the 5th game.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 19 2011 13:43 GMT
#12
I would have gotten the camera trivia if it didn't say "cyber" shot lmao.
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
November 19 2011 13:48 GMT
#13
Why is there no winnners league? Do they not realize this is going to hurt e-sports even more? -_-
yarders
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom194 Posts
November 19 2011 13:51 GMT
#14
What! Are they crazy winners league and ace matches were the best part of the whole system. No more epic reverse all kills.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 13:53:37
November 19 2011 13:52 GMT
#15
On November 19 2011 22:48 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote:
Why is there no winnners league? Do they not realize this is going to hurt e-sports even more? -_-


please don't throw that hurting esports crap.
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 19 2011 13:58 GMT
#16
But he's right, why remove winners league?! ;_;
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 19 2011 14:01 GMT
#17
Completely scrapping winners league may not have been the best idea but im positive that many many people myself included grew extremely weary of 1 trick pony teams. IIRC KT finished rounds one and two below ACE? And then with double winners league...
moochu
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia374 Posts
November 19 2011 14:04 GMT
#18
Sort of understandable that they can't televise during peak hours due to clashes. Why don't they consider a online broadcasting service instead?
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
November 19 2011 14:04 GMT
#19
Ace matches are unfair to teams who don't have super players like Flash and Jeadong... I understand why they want it removed...

Sadly it's still a terrible idea.
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 14:18:01
November 19 2011 14:05 GMT
#20
On November 19 2011 22:30 Archers_bane wrote:
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On November 19 2011 22:28 Hier wrote:
Why are Koreans reacting negatively towards two sets of games on Saturday and Sunday?

They struggle to find time to watch the games.

On November 19 2011 22:41 Hyde wrote:
Back to back Bo5 will probably average out like 4-5 hours or something, some days it'll be longer, some days it'll be shorter. It's a big time commitment if you want to keep up with all the games played (but it's not like they can't watch vods later if they need to be somewhere else, I guess it's mostly for the people who want to watch live?). I wonder how many people will stay for both matches.

As opposed to when MBC and OGN used to stream games concurrently??
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
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