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Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
zeenix1
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden89 Posts
August 30 2011 02:34 GMT
#881
Yea, if not in this thread, then in others.. If Moon got rumours flying around; imagine Jaedong.. regardless of what game.

ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
August 30 2011 02:34 GMT
#882
NOOOOO
;_;

I don't watch or play much BW these days but this is still like ripping a piece out of my heart.

Things are looking really bad for Korean esports with all the bad news recently
;_;
http://i53.tinypic.com/1r3j0p.gif
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
August 30 2011 02:34 GMT
#883
Sad day. I really want bw to live on even though I don't play it anymore. I still follow pl and starleagues, but this is looking bad. Hopefully JD and others get picked up by good teams so they aren't forced to retire. I know JD and a few others will get picked up for sure, but the rest :[
Hi
potatoedoughnut
Profile Joined July 2008
United States334 Posts
August 30 2011 02:34 GMT
#884
This is sad-face. I hope kespa can find at least one or two new sponsors to keep some of these teams going.

SPL would be a lot less interesting if it's just a few teams loaded with the star players. IMO it's much better to have more teams with some starts, some PL workhorses and up and comers (and a few faded stars ).
Eagles may soar, but weasels do not get sucked into jet engines.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
August 30 2011 02:34 GMT
#885
On August 30 2011 11:29 gustavohmp wrote:
You know what? This is Blizzard fault.
All that trouble about BW and stuff only served to stir thing up.
If Blizzard is worth their salt, they will sponsor a BW team.
I know, impossible with SC2 around and shit. But really, they ought to do something. Though Im pretty sure thats what they want, they cant let it vanish like that.
They... they cant...
Someone, please, do something. PLEASE.


Oh come on, that's one of the most obscure arguments to blame Blizzard I've ever heard. StarCraft II definitely accelerated the pace of Brood War's decline, but Blizzard isn't to blame for wanting to make a sequel.
Philo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States337 Posts
August 30 2011 02:35 GMT
#886
By far the saddest thing I've read all week.
No Hope
Other people do 24 hour streams. I just let GoOdy play a Bo11 TvT. - Special Endrey
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 30 2011 02:35 GMT
#887
I think kespa will manage to find at least one sponsor for the teams.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
August 30 2011 02:35 GMT
#888
So bonjwas are bad now?
Anyways, at the very least BW has contributed the most to the E-sports community setting the foundation for the future. I really hope there are more proleagues..I feel like I want to cry or make a time machine to go back to the past and experience brood war all over again. (._.)
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
August 30 2011 02:36 GMT
#889
Wow thats crazy looking at the whole flash thing.

I'm a sc2 fan now but its still really sad to see all the teams going away. Esports will never be the same and will always look up to the bw scene for the glory it will always hold.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
August 30 2011 02:36 GMT
#890
On August 30 2011 11:35 Cambium wrote:
I think kespa will manage to find at least one sponsor for the teams.


true.

wait what if there was a new team that was a COMBO of these three teams!??!?

JD + Sea uniting....
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
August 30 2011 02:37 GMT
#891
Trying to relate all of that to Flash winning tournaments seems a little ridiculous.. If you look at other sports (esport, w/e) having a 'dynasty' is typically a good thing.
"Sen, lings are OP" - HelloKittySS /// <3 http://www.twitch.tv/legendre20 <3
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
August 30 2011 02:37 GMT
#892
On August 30 2011 11:21 lizzard_warish wrote:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news [though im sure others have said this] but brood war is dead. It wont be around in a year. They've had difficulty finding sponsors for OSL/MSL for almost two years- if not two years.. Costs for maintaining a team are high, and even though sc2 isnt very popular in korea, it has major effects on the BW scene:

1) BW was already declining in popularity and it did drag away SOME viewers
2) Little to no future players are coming in, so an investment in bw is no longer long term
3) starcraft 2 is, uh, starcraft two. It's new, and with all those connotations: Passing of the old, inevitability, better prospects, etc.

Every time BW has had a hiccup, what has happened? sc2 players jump at it, yay, this will help our scene! I mean however deplorable that may be, its the mentality of the world looking in on brood war. When it has a slight issue, its not just a slight issue like back in the day, or even a catastrophe, its a nail in the coffin. The more people view BW as having an expiration date, the more people will move to sc2, which just exponentially ensures the death of the scene. More people leave, less viewers, less sponsors, less sponsors make people think bw is dieing and they leave. Repeat cycle.

There wont be new sponsors coming in, certainly nothing that can maintain the same level of salaries. Players will be cut, training houses will be curtailed massively, and players will give up. I said this in Flash' contract thread. And I'm really not here to say sc2 is better or whatever, so please dont warn me, I love both games. This is just the way it is IMO.


Where do you get the idea that no new players are coming onto the scene? And just because there is a sequel to a game, it doesn't mean that it will replace its predecessor.

BW is dying slowly, but I think it will last more than a year. And for a lot of people SC2 will never be a replacement.
BW4Life!
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 03:25:15
August 30 2011 02:38 GMT
#893
On August 30 2011 11:26 harhar! wrote:
plz jd come to sc2

User was warned for this post


what's wrong with hoping a bw player switching to sc2? :\

it would definitely be a momentous event, someone of jaedong's stature

but he would have to get offered like a billion dollars to switch, and honestly only a foreign team could afford that, but then he probably wont want to join a foreign team

THE DREAM (of a bw player going to sc2) IS DEADDDDDDDDDDD

User was warned for this post
elsation
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia661 Posts
August 30 2011 02:38 GMT
#894
This is bad news, is there much chance of finding any new sponsors? any chance of China producing a team?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 30 2011 02:38 GMT
#895
On August 30 2011 11:34 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 11:29 gustavohmp wrote:
You know what? This is Blizzard fault.
All that trouble about BW and stuff only served to stir thing up.
If Blizzard is worth their salt, they will sponsor a BW team.
I know, impossible with SC2 around and shit. But really, they ought to do something. Though Im pretty sure thats what they want, they cant let it vanish like that.
They... they cant...
Someone, please, do something. PLEASE.


Oh come on, that's one of the most obscure arguments to blame Blizzard I've ever heard. StarCraft II definitely accelerated the pace of Brood War's decline, but Blizzard isn't to blame for wanting to make a sequel.

Blizzard caused the leagues to come to a full stop for several months because of their lawsuit. So it's a little more than just making a sequel that damaged the scene because of Blizzard.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
HotS
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden46 Posts
August 30 2011 02:38 GMT
#896
Omg omg jaedong 2 sc2?!!!!

User was warned for this post
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
August 30 2011 02:39 GMT
#897
WHRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY!!!!

OZ too?...but they had actually been doing okay.

If Jaedong retires now I will be so unhappy...he has had a bit of a slump :[
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
August 30 2011 02:42 GMT
#898
OMG Oz T_T...........
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
August 30 2011 02:42 GMT
#899
Nooo!! then how am i going to cheer for jaedong and killer..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
getSome[703]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States753 Posts
August 30 2011 02:43 GMT
#900
OZ this is depressing. BW is dying when for a year after SC2's release it looked like it would be OK
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