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Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
August 30 2011 02:44 GMT
#901
Re: Jaedong potentially retiring:

What the heck does "retirement" mean in this case? When a player retires, I doubt how he'll have enough money to live the rest of his life without additional pay. These are young people, with probably very little saved up in government-sponsored retirement saving accounts (e.g. US 401k).
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
August 30 2011 02:45 GMT
#902
On August 30 2011 11:44 lbmaian wrote:
Re: Jaedong potentially retiring:

What the heck does "retirement" mean in this case? When a player retires, I doubt how he'll have enough money to live the rest of his life without additional pay. These are young people, with probably very little saved up in government-sponsored retirement saving accounts (e.g. US 401k).


retiring from playing esports of course
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 02:46:33
August 30 2011 02:46 GMT
#903
On August 30 2011 11:45 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 11:44 lbmaian wrote:
Re: Jaedong potentially retiring:

What the heck does "retirement" mean in this case? When a player retires, I doubt how he'll have enough money to live the rest of his life without additional pay. These are young people, with probably very little saved up in government-sponsored retirement saving accounts (e.g. US 401k).


retiring from playing esports of course


Obviously you have to get another job if you've only been working for a few years, like all the progamers have. Of course it means retiring from esports, don't be silly.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
hTRen
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 02:46:32
August 30 2011 02:46 GMT
#904
Very sad

I think it may be time to integrate SC2 teams into signatures no?
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
August 30 2011 02:47 GMT
#905
I want to cry TT something needs to change before there's only SKT and KT left
R.I.P. CheckSix
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
August 30 2011 02:47 GMT
#906
On August 30 2011 11:45 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 11:44 lbmaian wrote:
Re: Jaedong potentially retiring:

What the heck does "retirement" mean in this case? When a player retires, I doubt how he'll have enough money to live the rest of his life without additional pay. These are young people, with probably very little saved up in government-sponsored retirement saving accounts (e.g. US 401k).


retiring from playing esports of course


According to all-knowing wikipedia, "retirement" means "the point where a person stops employment completely", i.e. you don't pick up another job after retirement.

Perhaps the better terminology would be "quitting" and "unemployment"?
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 02:51:07
August 30 2011 02:48 GMT
#907
JD is probably one of the top 10 paid players in the bw scene: which team is willing to spend the money to buy him? Will he be playing for another team for significantly less than what he is making right now (given his recently less-than-stellar records esp in the JvZ department).
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
August 30 2011 02:50 GMT
#908
zZzzzZzZzzzzzZZzz.................... Oz BETTER NOT DISBAND

I've been playing Brood War for a long ass time now....

I've watched Brood War esports for around 8 years. For the first 5 years however, I only bothered to watch matches that were recommended (Like once a month).

However Jaedong changed that, I watched his games live everytime I could. Jaedong was the reason I made an account on TL.

Jaedong's muta micro was just out of this world. Sometimes, I would look at July or Savior and be like, yeah that's some sick muta micro, maybe if I practiced it enough I could look like them. Jaedong's muta micro though.... when I saw him stack 2 groups on top of each other I didn't know what the hell to say. Same thing when he micro'd 2 groups in 2 separate locations (Jaedong vs Upmagic....). Even if I played Team Melee with a friend, we couldn't hope to reach Jaedong's level.

Now, I don't watch SC2 seriously, actually I considered it somewhat of a joke at first with the MBS and infinite unit select until it became a legit esport. Maybe I've watched the finals of some series via VODs, but nothing serious. If Jaedong plays SC2 though, I will watch every single one of his matches still.
Still...... it's just not the same if Jaedong leaves BW or even Oz

I really really hope that Oz can get sponsored again, along with the other teams so we can continue to watch proleague games nearly every night. In other eSports, you can only see a certain top player play like once a week/month in a pro match (even in SC2).

Blizzard just left BW to die, especially with that broadcasting rights shit. Can't anybody see that if we just keep supporting their ways of not supporting esports then SC2, along with any other form of esports of their other games will just fade into nonexistence ?????? League of Legends/DotA2/randomgamewithsupportofcreator will outlast SC2.......

This shit isn't even good for my health, every day I'm wondering and hoping that there will be more and more SC for me, and when it finally runs out I'll be so depressed.

Tl;Dr I feel like crying
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
August 30 2011 02:51 GMT
#909
jaedong can't stop playing. Or he finds another BW team or he switches to sc2. he's one of the most talented and dedicaded players EVER.

please, jaedong, please.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 30 2011 02:51 GMT
#910
On August 30 2011 11:48 Hikari wrote:
JD is potentially one of the top 10 paid players in the bw scene: which team is willing to spend the money to buy him? Will he be playing for another team for significantly less than what he is making right now (given his recently less-than-stellar records esp in the JvZ department).

JD is valuable because he brings in fans. They pay players based on how successful they will be for making people want to buy their product, so I'd say they'll be willing to pay a pretty penny for Jaedong. It's not all about winning.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
August 30 2011 02:51 GMT
#911
This is sad.

I've only cheered for Oz before because of Jaedong, but I slowly found myself liking the quirky players the team would produce, from Backho to Hiya, and now Killer who has come so far since being nuked by Boxer. It really saddens me to see not only Oz go, but MBC and Wemade as well.

Here's hoping that there will be some good news in the days to come.
Graphics
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1312 Posts
August 30 2011 02:51 GMT
#912
One day I'd like to see JD and Flash ripping up SC2, however, I'd love to see them rip BW up to new, higher levels all the time.

I like pro-league very much and it's quite sad to see so many teams disbanding.
sup
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
August 30 2011 02:52 GMT
#913
Link me the last good thing that happened in BW I wanna know how far back that was. I'm actually shocked that BW is still running well. Even good sitcom TV shows don't last this long, even if they do they probably have a whole completely different cast of characters by that time. What game even comes close to BW of being played competitively for as long as BW?
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
August 30 2011 02:52 GMT
#914
This is just like the darkest day I've ever seen in Esports. I am honestly upset by this. I .. I don't even know what to say about this except I hope the players find new sponsors and new teams can be born.

Not like this. Not like this..Come on South Korea get yer esports together! Brood war will hold strong! No matter what.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
August 30 2011 02:52 GMT
#915
I'm hoping WMF and Oz will find new sponsors and actually can stay alive.

Hope dies last.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 30 2011 02:53 GMT
#916
+ Show Spoiler [OSL] +
In addition, talk about Flash destroying Broodwar.
When Flash won the GomTV Starleague, GomTV stops broadcasting Broodwar.
When Flash won the WCG, WCG bans Broodwar.
When Flash won the SPL for the first time, Estro and Sparkz both disband.
When Flash won the golden mouse, MBCGame decides to switch to a music channel.
When Flash won the SPL again defeating SKT, Wemade Fox, Hwaseung OZ, and MBCGame all disband.

All I can say is thank god Jangbi stopped Flash from winning a Platinum Mouse.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
August 30 2011 02:53 GMT
#917
Nail in the coffin? Sad to see such a legendary game start falling apart
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 30 2011 02:54 GMT
#918
BW little by little falling apart
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
August 30 2011 02:54 GMT
#919
On my birthday, I find out that my favorite team is disbanding.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
August 30 2011 02:54 GMT
#920
On August 30 2011 11:52 skrzmark wrote:
Link me the last good thing that happened in BW I wanna know how far back that was. I'm actually shocked that BW is still running well. Even good sitcom TV shows don't last this long, even if they do they probably have a whole completely different cast of characters by that time. What game even comes close to BW of being played competitively for as long as BW?


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