Not much to say. Pretty sure not other team is gonna be able to outbid KT for Flash. Best might get a drop in salary for his spectacular finals fail? xD All speculation from me of course.
No official translation or anything, if anyone has anything to add PM and I'll add to OP.
I'm homo for lomo <3 I'd choose him in a FlaSh. He's the BeSt of them all and it's Pure bad luck that he hasn't been picked as the Ace of his team yet!
by.sun more clutch than BeSt, SKT can sell him off. LOL kidding aside, there are teams that could use a half-decent Protoss like Hwaseung Oz (mentorship along with Anytime) and WeMadeFox (Mentorship for Wooki)
I think the most likely to get a new team would be BeSt. KT will outbid anyone for Flash, no questions asked.
Although I doubt that Flash will be outbid by any other team other than KT, the possibility of him being bought out is still quite intriguing to think about.
I'm sure that Best will be a strong player no matter which team he ends up on, though it'll be sad if he leaves SKT1.
Lomo, Pure, and CuteAngel seem quite mediocre as of late, and they thus seem to be likely candidates for switching over to SC2 if they don't get a good deal from being free agents. Though it would be fine if none of them switch, it would nonetheless be interesting if they do.
I assume nobody will outbid SKT/KT for BeSt and Flash, respectively, though I suppose it's vaguely possible SKT lets BeSt walk.
Of the other three, the only one with a demonstrated peak high enough to be worth anything is Pure, and he's old enough that I don't see him moving - not to mention I'm not sure there's another team he'd be as valuable to as WeMade anyway.
KT - Stats, Violet? SKT - Bisu, BeSt, Sun CJ - Horang2, Movie, Snow WJN - free... Guemchi? KHAN - Stork, Jangbi, Grape, Brave STX - Shuttle, Kal? Trap? OZ - Anytime, shy/sky MBC - Jaehoon, Tyson
Stars is the shakiest, but Pure's not going to add anything even so.
I don't think anything big will come from this. Flash's price will be too high for any team besides KT. Lomo, Pure and Frozen are all pretty bad these days so I don't think anyone will miss them even if they switch teams or retire. BeSt is an intriguing option. With Sun and Paralyze SKT doesn't need to keep BeSt and I could see a team with a weak protoss line or needing a strong vTerran player making an offer. Nonetheless I feel like SKT values BeSt more than other teams would since they are one of the few teams with the depth that can hide BeSt's PvZ mediocrity. Other teams would be wary of making too big of an offer for a player who can be sniped so easily.
There's is 100% no way anyone takes Flash from KT. That'd be like someone taking Tom Brady off the Patriots.
Free Agency usually means a player's contract is up and he is free to check the market with absolutely no complications, but Kespa has some weird compensation system that makes it extra costly just to sign a free agent, for no reason other than absolute control over players. Kind of disgusting, but what ya gonna do?
On August 21 2011 11:11 kineSiS- wrote: I'm homo for lomo <3 I'd choose him in a FlaSh. He's the BeSt of them all and it's Pure bad luck that he hasn't been picked as the Ace of his team yet!
On August 21 2011 11:39 Ciryandor wrote: by.sun more clutch than BeSt, SKT can sell him off. LOL kidding aside, there are teams that could use a half-decent Protoss like Hwaseung Oz (mentorship along with Anytime) and WeMadeFox (Mentorship for Wooki)
I think the most likely to get a new team would be BeSt. KT will outbid anyone for Flash, no questions asked.
Best is more than a half-decent protoss. Pure is decent. Best is great.
On August 21 2011 11:26 Kerotan wrote: I hope Pure gets a brighter future, SC2 or otherwise, the ranks of WemadeFox have always looked a bit empty ever since Nada left.
something like that could spell the beginning of the end for wemade fox though :/
On August 21 2011 15:11 ReketSomething wrote: Best to hwaseung or khan would be sick. I want some team other than skt or kt to win again
I kinda like that best guy...
Khan really doesn't need another toss on their lineup. WeMade and Stars are the ones starving for a solid protoss player, Oz would be #3 imo, they at least have up and comers.
I don't see a possibility of someone transferring to another team. Flash is too good for KT to let go, and I'm sure he himself would refuse to play for another team, and the others are not worth a trade(BeSt might be worth a good offer, but he's in a slump, and might go into a deeper, longer slump after THAT).
On August 21 2011 17:51 Vazze wrote: BeSt must NOT go to another team!! He was raised in SKT house. SKT is his home!!
Trade Best for Wooki ... even though I like best, seriously I think a team like woongjin or oz should try and get Best, maybe him being in the ace spot will actually motivate him to play to his potential (protoss ace that is)
It would be nice to see best in oz. With that lineup Jd, Killer, Hiya, Best they could do much better. Oz got problems with players cuz they got only 3 decent ones + dont have got any toss.
Skt dont need best anyway they can replace him with 2-3 another players.
Will be interesting to see what happens to BeSt, though it's 95% SKT again. BeSt is the only one on SKT you can tolerate oftentimes if you are a Bisu-antifan.. and fantasy because his games are either horrendous or very well played
Without a seriously good trade, I don't see BeSt going anywhere. He may have bit the dust the past couple games, but he is still a fairly good players, definitely not one you throw away.
What is this shit about BeSt? Look at the man's record. Aside from the finals, he is well above average. SKT would be foolish to let him go. He's a known, good player and when he's on a hot streak he's incredible. All: 159-118 (57.40%
Well above 1/2 and his only "bad" matchup is PvZ and to be fair, almost all Protoss are having issues in PvZ right now, with a lot of one base attempts to see if the matchup can be changed because Hydras are straight wrecking balls currently.
I don't see anyone moving. Lomo and pure aren't good enough anymore, Best will be way too expensive considering how good he is, and Flash is just way too expensive period. I could see frozen to oz, but I think he will stay retired.
Edit: if a trade was to happen, I would guess Best to Stars, which would make me sad.
Shit, I like Lomo But I feel like changing teams would make his situation even worse. Lomo should pick it up right now and step up now that OZ isnt overshadowed by Jaedong anymore.
On August 22 2011 04:22 TheGlassface wrote: What is this shit about BeSt? Look at the man's record. Aside from the finals, he is well above average. SKT would be foolish to let him go. He's a known, good player and when he's on a hot streak he's incredible. All: 159-118 (57.40%
Well above 1/2 and his only "bad" matchup is PvZ and to be fair, almost all Protoss are having issues in PvZ right now, with a lot of one base attempts to see if the matchup can be changed because Hydras are straight wrecking balls currently.
If you're counting just this year, he's 12-17 (41%). If you count from the start of this season of PL (including individual leagues), he's 21 wins - 24 losses (46.67%). He performed well below average all season, last season he only performed at his average, 57% win rate, which is pretty good. I doubt they'll offer him anything too spectacular considering his most recent performance and I think there's a small, but significant, possibility he will leave SKT.
On August 22 2011 05:44 fabiano wrote: Flash will stay on KT, BeSt will stay on SKT.
Jaedong should leave Oz, I bet he would become a monster again if he joined a better team. Dont know how long his contract with Oz is though.
He resigned in August or September 2009. It's probably a minimum 2 year contract, since he isn't on this free agent list. Does anyone know the terms of the contract he signed during the 2009 FA?
And BeSt on SKT is the most likely scenario, but there's a nonzero chance he'd go to another team.
Im pretty sure it'll be a boring free agency period this year. KT will keep Flash, SK will keep Best, unless another team really wants to bid for a better Protoss.
On August 22 2011 05:54 Zlasher wrote: Im pretty sure it'll be a boring free agency period this year. KT will keep Flash, SK will keep Best, unless another team really wants to bid for a better Protoss.
I think that STX will get rid of Kal, and replace him with BeSt. That's just my thought.
Flash probably will stay in KT, Definetly not going to SKT.
On August 21 2011 11:11 kineSiS- wrote: I'm homo for lomo <3 I'd choose him in a FlaSh. He's the BeSt of them all and it's Pure bad luck that he hasn't been picked as the Ace of his team yet!
On August 23 2011 16:21 eton7410 wrote: Flash has signed another two year contract with KT. His salary is Bisu and Jaedong's combined.( Approximately 650,000,000 Korean Dollars)
Are you joking and it went over my head entirely? :S
On August 23 2011 16:21 eton7410 wrote: Flash has signed another two year contract with KT. His salary is Bisu and Jaedong's combined.( Approximately 650,000,000 Korean Dollars)
Are you joking and it went over my head entirely? :S
On August 23 2011 16:21 eton7410 wrote: Flash has signed another two year contract with KT. His salary is Bisu and Jaedong's combined.( Approximately 650,000,000 Korean Dollars)
Are you joking and it went over my head entirely? :S
There is an article on desports saying that KT plans on offering flash a huge deal to repay him for never disappointing them/doing so much for KT (http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=49071) - guess it'll just be interesting to see how other teams match up to it
On August 23 2011 16:21 eton7410 wrote: Flash has signed another two year contract with KT. His salary is Bisu and Jaedong's combined.( Approximately 650,000,000 Korean Dollars)
On August 23 2011 16:21 eton7410 wrote: Flash has signed another two year contract with KT. His salary is Bisu and Jaedong's combined.( Approximately 650,000,000 Korean Dollars)
Damn, that's like ~600k USD.
Not bad for being for being a god, in esports terms
Flash, Best and Lomo to renew contracts with their teams. Pure to apply for ACE Frozen will either apply for ACE or try something else other than progaming.
but didn't flash just re entered contract with kt ? why would he be retiring well i will understand if he wants retire though probably he see's this is the highest he can go in starcraft and probably go study ....
but didn't flash just re entered contract with kt ? why would he be retiring well i will understand if he wants retire though probably he see's this is the highest he can go in starcraft and probably go study ....
sorry, i will edit the post. re-sign. ie. renew contract.
but didn't flash just re entered contract with kt ? why would he be retiring well i will understand if he wants retire though probably he see's this is the highest he can go in starcraft and probably go study ....
sorry, i will edit the post. re-sign. ie. renew contract.
but didn't flash just re entered contract with kt ? why would he be retiring well i will understand if he wants retire though probably he see's this is the highest he can go in starcraft and probably go study ....
sorry, i will edit the post. re-sign. ie. renew contract.
On August 21 2011 12:23 red4ce wrote: I don't think anything big will come from this. Flash's price will be too high for any team besides KT. Lomo, Pure and Frozen are all pretty bad these days so I don't think anyone will miss them even if they switch teams or retire. BeSt is an intriguing option. With Sun and Paralyze SKT doesn't need to keep BeSt and I could see a team with a weak protoss line or needing a strong vTerran player making an offer. Nonetheless I feel like SKT values BeSt more than other teams would since they are one of the few teams with the depth that can hide BeSt's PvZ mediocrity. Other teams would be wary of making too big of an offer for a player who can be sniped so easily.
On August 21 2011 11:11 kineSiS- wrote: I'M homo for Lomo <3 I'd choose him in a Flash. He's the BeSt of them all and it's PureBad luck that he hasn't been picked as the ACE of his team yet!
On August 23 2011 23:15 sabas123 wrote: whats fa btw?:D
FA = Free Agency. Basically, player's contracts expire, and if they don't get re-signed with their original team or something, they become free agents.
On August 23 2011 23:15 sabas123 wrote: whats fa btw?:D
FA = Free Agency. Basically, player's contracts expire, and if they don't get re-signed with their original team or something, they become free agents.
No, that's not what FA means in pro BW. You become an FA if you fulfill certain criteria (like being a pro for 3 years and playing a certain number of games etc.) and your contract is up for renewal. It doesn't mean your team isn't going to re-sign you.
On August 23 2011 23:15 sabas123 wrote: whats fa btw?:D
FA = Free Agency. Basically, player's contracts expire, and if they don't get re-signed with their original team or something, they become free agents.
No, that's not what FA means in pro BW. You become an FA if you fulfill certain criteria (like being a pro for 3 years and playing a certain number of games etc.) and your contract is up for renewal. It doesn't mean your team isn't going to re-sign you.
I didn't know about the 3 year and number of games requirement. My bad.
Also, I think I stated what I was thinking incorrectly, being half asleep as I am. -_-. I thought they only became free agents if the initial negotiations with the original team didn't work out.
On August 23 2011 23:15 sabas123 wrote: whats fa btw?:D
FA = Free Agency. Basically, player's contracts expire, and if they don't get re-signed with their original team or something, they become free agents.
No, that's not what FA means in pro BW. You become an FA if you fulfill certain criteria (like being a pro for 3 years and playing a certain number of games etc.) and your contract is up for renewal. It doesn't mean your team isn't going to re-sign you.
I didn't know about the 3 year and number of games requirement. My bad.
Also, I think I stated what I was thinking incorrectly, being half asleep as I am. -_-. I thought they only became free agents if the initial negotiations with the original team didn't work out.
Yeah, there are some other criteria too but I'm not familiar with those. Anyway, no FA has ever moved teams so it's largely a formality.
On August 21 2011 11:11 kineSiS- wrote: I'M homo for Lomo <3 I'd choose him in a Flash. He's the BeSt of them all and it's PureBad luck that he hasn't been picked as the ACE of his team yet!
Fixed that for ya
There's actually a player called "Bad?" That's so sweet!
On August 21 2011 11:11 kineSiS- wrote: I'M homo for Lomo <3 I'd choose him in a Flash. He's the BeSt of them all and it's PureBad luck that he hasn't been picked as the ACE of his team yet!
Fixed that for ya
There's actually a player called "Bad?" That's so sweet!
I'd bet that there is a player for every word in the dictionary by now if you count every name, pro or amateur or casual, that has been entered into Starcraft since the game's release.
UPDATE Flash and BeSt re-signed with their current teams CuteAngel has chosen to retire Pure doesn't have a team to re-sign with so he automatically becomes FA, awaiting results Lomo without first negotiating with hwaseung is FA - he'll await calls from other teams b/w the 26th and 28th; if nothing works out, on 9/1-9/2 he'll have to enter negotiations with hwaseung again
yeah best of luck to Frozean for whatever he chooses to do next. He may have been a pretty easy target for jokes but he's been a pro for like 7 years so that deserves a lot of respect
On August 24 2011 19:28 Smix wrote: UPDATE Flash and BeSt re-signed with their current teams CuteAngel has chosen to retire Pure doesn't have a team to re-sign with so he automatically becomes FA, awaiting results Lomo without first negotiating with hwaseung is FA - he'll await calls from other teams b/w the 26th and 28th; if nothing works out, on 9/1-9/2 he'll have to enter negotiations with hwaseung again
On August 24 2011 19:28 Smix wrote: UPDATE Flash and BeSt re-signed with their current teams CuteAngel has chosen to retire Pure doesn't have a team to re-sign with so he automatically becomes FA, awaiting results Lomo without first negotiating with hwaseung is FA - he'll await calls from other teams b/w the 26th and 28th; if nothing works out, on 9/1-9/2 he'll have to enter negotiations with hwaseung again