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hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
August 06 2011 09:48 GMT
#261
Honestly I think this is really a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't for the Chinese authorities there - what if the disastrous occurred and somebody got seriously injured, maimed, or killed as a result of letting the event go on?

Of course it would be "Those bastard Chinese should have never allowed the event to continue!"
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
August 06 2011 09:49 GMT
#262
On August 06 2011 18:47 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 18:46 hauton wrote:
On August 06 2011 18:43 Cedstick wrote:
On a little tangent, I always imagined the Korean forums would be generally more mannered and mature than others. Nope, the effects of the internet are universal, it seems XD

what?

Have you not heard how some of these progamers are often abused and berated by so-called "fans"?

Korean netizens have the same terrible manners as any other ethnicity, maybe even worse in some cases.

Add that with the cultural xenophobia that exists between Chinese/Japanese/Koreans and it's a hodgepodge of racist hyperbole about the bastard Chinese ruining everything.

Calm down man, no need to give off such a harsh tone.

And the Korean netizens are mostly laughing at "KeSPA's fail" rather than bashing the Chinese government.

Yeesh.

No offense intended, I'm not trying to incite anything. I'm just commenting on the phenomenon as it occurs on all sides. There's good and bad apples in every group, really.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 09:54:19
August 06 2011 09:53 GMT
#263
On August 06 2011 18:49 hauton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 18:47 Spica wrote:
On August 06 2011 18:46 hauton wrote:
On August 06 2011 18:43 Cedstick wrote:
On a little tangent, I always imagined the Korean forums would be generally more mannered and mature than others. Nope, the effects of the internet are universal, it seems XD

what?

Have you not heard how some of these progamers are often abused and berated by so-called "fans"?

Korean netizens have the same terrible manners as any other ethnicity, maybe even worse in some cases.

Add that with the cultural xenophobia that exists between Chinese/Japanese/Koreans and it's a hodgepodge of racist hyperbole about the bastard Chinese ruining everything.

Calm down man, no need to give off such a harsh tone.

And the Korean netizens are mostly laughing at "KeSPA's fail" rather than bashing the Chinese government.

Yeesh.

No offense intended, I'm not trying to incite anything. I'm just commenting on the phenomenon as it occurs on all sides. There's good and bad apples in every group, really.

Alright, but you sound super worked up about some people trying to place blame on the Chinese/the Chinese government. Those people will soon realize that there's no one really to blame, unless you want to blame the typhoon for striking on the day of the finals or KeSPA's apparently poor planning/handling of the situation.

But really, it was just a bunch of unfortunate events all colliding into each other at the same time. :|
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 06 2011 09:54 GMT
#264
On August 06 2011 18:44 Sawamura wrote:
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On August 06 2011 18:36 endy wrote:
On August 06 2011 18:32 Sawamura wrote:
so who are we to blame ? Typhoon ? Weather ? China gov ???? ><


chinese govt wants 0 risk. but koreans dont seem to have a backup plan so they tried to negociate and drag this as long as possible but it seems ot didnt work out. really have no idea of whats going on


Shouldn't they as a government at least introduce some sort of unused hall for the pro league finals to continue after all they ordered the cancellation of the event ? . I felt quite terrible for the organizers who paid for that venue to be held at and yet has to pay all the money despite not being able to show the game .

Seriously who would have expected a typhoon to becoming launching its storms at shanghai today ? Despite earlier warning I don't think it is in kespa budget to hire another stadium just to ensure a plan b .


Preparing contingency plans has to be the responsibility of the event organizer. After all, i'm sure when they decide to hold the events there, they had to get permission from the government and the clauses must have included that the event will be cancelled if there are dangerous circumstances such as typhoons.
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
August 06 2011 09:55 GMT
#265
--- Nuked ---
TheDoK666
Profile Joined May 2010
France179 Posts
August 06 2011 09:59 GMT
#266
so is it really cancelled?
pwet
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 06 2011 10:00 GMT
#267
On August 06 2011 18:59 TheDoK666 wrote:
so is it really cancelled?


Yes... someone needs to edit the topic.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 06 2011 10:00 GMT
#268
BLAME THE CHINESE!!! BLAME GESPA!!! ESPORTS IS DIED!
This is final grand meeting of the SKTTTTT1 and KTFingerboom.
How can you cancel? Play through fire and rain!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
August 06 2011 10:04 GMT
#269
wtf, planes getting hit by psionic storms and then typhoons? MOTHER NATURE WHY U DO DAT?
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 06 2011 10:12 GMT
#270
poor fans who flyed all the way from Korea. their plan must be fucked up
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 06 2011 10:13 GMT
#271
is there going to be no finals period? what's the story? surely they could get something together in korea with a huge guaranteed crowd?
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 06 2011 10:17 GMT
#272
On August 06 2011 19:13 o[twist] wrote:
is there going to be no finals period? what's the story? surely they could get something together in korea with a huge guaranteed crowd?

There will be a finals. I'd say to expect an announcement within 24 hours.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 06 2011 10:17 GMT
#273
On August 06 2011 19:13 o[twist] wrote:
is there going to be no finals period? what's the story? surely they could get something together in korea with a huge guaranteed crowd?


There is going to be a finals. KESPA would lose their entire fanbase if they canceled the finals. That's like the NFL saying, 'You know what? Since there was a typhoon and we couldn't play tonight, we're canceling the Super Bowl and just gonna reward the title to no one.'

Does anyone know the exact date that the player contracts end? Since Flash is one of the players becoming a free agent, the finals would have to be held before that date, right?
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
August 06 2011 10:22 GMT
#274
I'm so sad, this was the last thing that BW needed
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
August 06 2011 10:24 GMT
#275
kespa official statement:

김철학 국장=우선 먼 곳까지 와주셨는데 죄송하다. 어제 상해 시 정부에서 태풍 경보를 발령한 뒤 상해 밑에 위치하고 있는 저장성에서는 20만명을 대피시키는 조치를 내렸다. 상해 시도 이 부분에 대해 상당히 완고한 입장이다. 어제부터 현재까지 각종 동원할 수 있는 모든 라인을 통해 정부 측 관계자를 설득해보고자 노력을 했으나 설득이 되지 않았다. 행사 속개가 불가능한 상황이다. 여기 오기까지 정말 많은 준비와 최대한의 노력을 했다. 하지만 천재지변은 불가항력적인 것이라 많은 양해 부탁 드린다. 중국 측과 추가적인 협의를 해서 최대한 빠른 시일 안에 대책을 세워 후속 대안에 대해 말씀 드리겠다. 중국에서든 한국에서든 최대한 빠른 시일 내에 결승전이 진행될 수 있도록 하겠다. 향후 대책에 대해서도 최대한 빠른 시일 내에 말씀 드리겠다. 죄송하다.


bunch of incompetent bozos, kespa..
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b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
August 06 2011 10:25 GMT
#276
On August 06 2011 19:17 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 19:13 o[twist] wrote:
is there going to be no finals period? what's the story? surely they could get something together in korea with a huge guaranteed crowd?


There is going to be a finals. KESPA would lose their entire fanbase if they canceled the finals. That's like the NFL saying, 'You know what? Since there was a typhoon and we couldn't play tonight, we're canceling the Super Bowl and just gonna reward the title to no one.'

Does anyone know the exact date that the player contracts end? Since Flash is one of the players becoming a free agent, the finals would have to be held before that date, right?


Tomorrow.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 06 2011 10:26 GMT
#277
On August 06 2011 19:24 phosphorylation wrote:
kespa official statement:

김철학 국장=우선 먼 곳까지 와주셨는데 죄송하다. 어제 상해 시 정부에서 태풍 경보를 발령한 뒤 상해 밑에 위치하고 있는 저장성에서는 20만명을 대피시키는 조치를 내렸다. 상해 시도 이 부분에 대해 상당히 완고한 입장이다. 어제부터 현재까지 각종 동원할 수 있는 모든 라인을 통해 정부 측 관계자를 설득해보고자 노력을 했으나 설득이 되지 않았다. 행사 속개가 불가능한 상황이다. 여기 오기까지 정말 많은 준비와 최대한의 노력을 했다. 하지만 천재지변은 불가항력적인 것이라 많은 양해 부탁 드린다. 중국 측과 추가적인 협의를 해서 최대한 빠른 시일 안에 대책을 세워 후속 대안에 대해 말씀 드리겠다. 중국에서든 한국에서든 최대한 빠른 시일 내에 결승전이 진행될 수 있도록 하겠다. 향후 대책에 대해서도 최대한 빠른 시일 내에 말씀 드리겠다. 죄송하다.


bunch of incompetent bozos, kespa..


So what does this mean ?
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 06 2011 10:26 GMT
#278
On August 06 2011 19:25 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 19:17 Fionn wrote:
On August 06 2011 19:13 o[twist] wrote:
is there going to be no finals period? what's the story? surely they could get something together in korea with a huge guaranteed crowd?


There is going to be a finals. KESPA would lose their entire fanbase if they canceled the finals. That's like the NFL saying, 'You know what? Since there was a typhoon and we couldn't play tonight, we're canceling the Super Bowl and just gonna reward the title to no one.'

Does anyone know the exact date that the player contracts end? Since Flash is one of the players becoming a free agent, the finals would have to be held before that date, right?


Tomorrow.


So what if a team like SKT1 offers Flash a huge offer and he takes it?

Does he play for SKT1 in the finals? :p
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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
August 06 2011 10:26 GMT
#279
As much as it sucks the finals are not on, Tropical cyclones are nothing to take lightly.
Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
August 06 2011 10:27 GMT
#280
On August 06 2011 19:25 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 19:17 Fionn wrote:
On August 06 2011 19:13 o[twist] wrote:
is there going to be no finals period? what's the story? surely they could get something together in korea with a huge guaranteed crowd?


There is going to be a finals. KESPA would lose their entire fanbase if they canceled the finals. That's like the NFL saying, 'You know what? Since there was a typhoon and we couldn't play tonight, we're canceling the Super Bowl and just gonna reward the title to no one.'

Does anyone know the exact date that the player contracts end? Since Flash is one of the players becoming a free agent, the finals would have to be held before that date, right?


Tomorrow.


The Weather doesn't clear up until monday.
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