Backwards ramps.

On March 14 2005 22:23 Enorasis wrote:
I bet that would be alright. Isn't is possible to smooth it out with sprites anyways? (Or whatever its called, I read it somewhere)

On March 14 2005 22:53 choujji wrote:
wtf am i looking at?
i ve been staring for 5 mins now

On March 14 2005 22:58 ihatett wrote:


A ramp that goes the other way. All ramps have to go south, but this goes north.

On March 15 2005 02:34 SoMuchBetter wrote:
ramp direction is just sometrhing you have to take into account. Only in very particular situations the ramp direction limitations are a pain in the ass.

On March 15 2005 04:32 max_well wrote:
This looks interesting.

Would this be compatible and playable on bnet?

On March 15 2005 04:38 Famouzze wrote:
you can always do what the map maker did on Requiem if you need a north facing ramp - switch the low ground and high ground.

edit: you could also just not use ramps, and have it all the same level ground, and just put an opening there instead of a ramp.

Get back Mother Fucker you dont know me like that.

On March 15 2005 06:12 max_well wrote:
I tried it with Starforge. (result below) But you cannont import your own graphics and you have to use the existing tileset - so it looks really crappy. If you could import your own graphics you could just rotate the ramp (or just peaces of the tileset) with photshop make some adjustments and than make a custom brush with it.

I made these cause I think it's interesting from a designing point of view. Would be interesting to see really good looking backward ramps in future maps. I don't know what it would do strategically though...

with starfroge:



this is an attempt with photoshop, really nothing I put much work on:

On March 15 2005 06:39 Chill wrote:
I would say in this case functionality would be a lot more important that how it looks.

On March 15 2005 06:45 max_well wrote:


Ok you are right, but nobody would use backwardramps if they don't look neat.

On March 15 2005 05:36 Rekrul wrote:
but it's not a just substitute for a north facing ramp, it's something that drastically alters the strategic value of a map ...

On March 15 2005 07:44 Famouzze wrote:


so it does. i never said it didn't. i still think a north-facing high ground to low ground ramp would be a useful thing that blizz should've included in the game. i was just offering some alternatives.

btw i know this is possible because i've seen lots of UMS where this worked. it would be great to see people starting to use it in melee.

On March 15 2005 07:22 EAGER-beaver wrote:
I think most of us don't give a rats ass about how they work. The important question is, do these ramps function just as well as a normal ramp?

On March 15 2005 06:59 ZorAptoR wrote:


yeah, since we all keep playing because we want a game with superb graphics...

On March 14 2005 22:53 choujji wrote:
wtf am i looking at?
i ve been staring for 5 mins now

On March 15 2005 08:59 ihatett wrote:
max_well:

Is that ramp a real ramp? Remember, the top of the ramp needs to have "top of the ramp" tiles, the middle needs to have "middle of the ramp" tiles, and same for the bottom.

If that doesn't make any sense: you need to take a normal ramp and switch it around, it has the same low-ground/high-ground functionality. You may have done this, but it looks different.

On March 15 2005 08:59 ihatett wrote:
max_well:

Is that ramp a real ramp? Remember, the top of the ramp needs to have "top of the ramp" tiles, the middle needs to have "middle of the ramp" tiles, and same for the bottom.

If that doesn't make any sense: you need to take a normal ramp and switch it around, it has the same low-ground/high-ground functionality. You may have done this, but it looks different.

On March 15 2005 09:12 bio.dante wrote:


Sorry to say but your post is total WRONG

On March 15 2005 09:23 ihatett wrote:


It probably is.

Could you correct it?

On March 15 2005 09:27 bio.dante wrote:


imo, it dont depends on low ground/hight ground functionality. By making this you are making a normal "road". Imagine it as pure 2d when u are only breaking the line that keeps you out of other side

On March 15 2005 09:04 HnR)Insane wrote:
This was discussed somewhat at staredit.net They didn't come up with any good methods of doing it (read: things that look realistic)

On March 15 2005 09:42 ihatett wrote:


Right, but I don't know where that line is, so it's safest I think to reverse the ramp.

On March 15 2005 10:01 bio.dante wrote:


by that line in 2d i meant cliff

On March 15 2005 10:06 Famouzze wrote:
wow, i guess i'm the only one who cares about how it works and doesn't care at all what it looks like o_o

it doenst change the game at all if its ugly, so whats the difference?

On March 15 2005 09:04 HnR)Insane wrote:
This was discussed somewhat at staredit.net They didn't come up with any good methods of doing it (read: things that look realistic)

On March 15 2005 23:29 ryuGie wrote:
I'm guessing that the reason why blizz didnt make north-face ramps was that this resulted in a elongated ramp.. think about it; to have the same effect as the south-face ramp, the north-face ramp would have to be extended in length to match the effectiveness of the south-face ramp, which isn't physically correct because it would look skewed. A physically correct north-face ramp would be cut short and it wouldn't be very effective, leaving blizz to just leave the doodads to south-face ramps. ;]

On March 15 2005 17:19 Bill307 wrote:


Hmm... do you know if anyone tried making ramps along the sides of cliffs (i.e. ramps that face east and west)? Those would be much more useful for symmetry than Blizzard's ramps and possibly easier to make than reverse ramps (i.e. they look nicer).

On March 16 2005 04:40 Misca wrote:
The reason why we don't have backwards ramps is already posted in this topic.
Look at the photoshopped image, it looks like a normal ramp, but there are cliffs on the sides which make it impossible to be a normal ramp.

SC isn't able to create such ramps that look normal.