EPTBasically MBC Game says that the decision isn't finalized yet.
MBCGame to shut down? - Page 48
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Milkis
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Basically MBC Game says that the decision isn't finalized yet. | ||
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Crissaegrim
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I have no doubt that many will shed a tear at this. Let's hope that somewhere down the line, MBC will return to its gaming roots. | ||
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TheYellowOne
United States97 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On July 27 2011 22:22 Milkis wrote: Fomos reports nothing is for certain yet. MBC Game released a statement regarding it and says that TIG was too quick to release it since it's not 100% certain yet. Basically MBC Game says that the decision isn't finalized yet. Hopefully they did this sort of pre-release of information to gauge what the response would be if they actually went through with it. I can't imagine this going over very well in korea. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
ASL COMING TO LITTLE GIRLS NEAR YOU + Show Spoiler + the jokes aren't making me feel any better | ||
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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Lankeer
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Disquiet
Australia628 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On July 27 2011 22:30 soujiro_ wrote: this cant be true =\ and its not Hold your tears until official announcement, and support BW like you used to instead! | ||
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RenardDesMers
France76 Posts
We saw that in SC2, teams feel the urge to go abroad to get more money ( probably mostly because there's only one league and it's so difficult to get into code S). Now that BW has only one league, there might be a problem there too as teams will basically compete for less money than they had before. Also, the fact that MBCGame dies could show the popularity goes down for BW. Bad stuff for BW anyway | ||
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TheOnly92
Malaysia804 Posts
On July 27 2011 22:25 Medrea wrote: Hopefully they did this sort of pre-release of information to gauge what the response would be if they actually went through with it. I can't imagine this going over very well in korea. Well, I believe they're already getting it, now what? Are they gonna stop the plan because a lot of people are against it? | ||
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hyperknight
294 Posts
Bad news for SC:BW but I think this may be good news for SC2.Let's see how things turn out. Nevertheless, its gonna become a music channel!?!wtf? O_o | ||
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AugustDreams
Australia127 Posts
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
On July 27 2011 21:21 Sawamura wrote: Oh so your argument is okay old game pretty boring lets change the rules in chess and probably even new more pieces to make it more interesting for the new generation . Sure everything is done needs to go with time that argument is pretty farce in my opinion are you trying to say that anything that has work before and tried has to be washed down the drain just to accommodate to the markets these days . Especially the ADD generation ? I don't think so traditional sport such as golf itself retain its competitiveness despite there being new technology to get the ball more higher , to cut the slice, to make sure your drive gets 30 yards more longer . Has the game change ??? I don't think so why does it have to change for broodwar ? For people are not willing to put in time to get better to enjoy a game that what is needed is much more time and understanding ? . Bw itself it's sport it demands that you have a strong mentality that you are able to win against no matter what is the odd is laid in front of you . You have to have strong nerve because if you don't you are surely probably will gg the first time you are played upon crowds of fan and pressure in front of you . In other words no we don't have to water down the already needed requirements for bw to be a game to reach masses and if you want to do so . Please kindly go to another rts game made by blizzard just recently released . You kind of contradicted yourself here my friend While I agree that BW needed no changes by itself, you pointed to golf as an example of a game that needs no change. When in fact, it has been changed radically by both new technology & equipment as well as minor changes in tournament rules and regulations. The poster here was trying to argue that e-sports is fundamentally different than traditional sports. In catering almost solely to a young crowd, it's got to reinvent itself from time to time. Some people would argue that sc2 is that reinvention while traditionalists don't even recognize it. For me, my complaints about bw are petty and simple; i can't rally workers to minerals and bind groups over 12 units deep. For BW players, their complaints are simple: you can't put lipstick on a pig (they have a hard time describing their grievances and usually stick to summary). This would have been a better situation if blizzard had instead of making a whole new game simply never stopped patching SC:BW until it satisfied everyone's needs. (but patches are free and new games are sources of revenue) Of course you got people like my grandfather who cannot believe they allow metal-alloy clubs instead of wooden ones, when changes are implemented slowly they have time to be fleshed out and they can stay or fall by their own individual merits. The big issue here is Starcraft losing ground in any capacity. Golf wouldn't be where it is today if there were golf 1.0 and golf 2.0, each complete with their separate set of players, rules, equipment and fans. We need to come together as fans of starcraft to mourn the loss of a league like MBC, and figure out what we can do as a community to prevent additional slippage. I'll watch a little more ongamenet, and you guys maybe watch a little more gomtv, and maybe together we can hold ground. On the one hand I thought e-sports was growing, and then I see this and I scratch my head - what's going on? | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
On July 27 2011 22:32 RenardDesMers wrote: The question is now about how healthy is the esports economy right now in Korea. We saw that in SC2, teams feel the urge to go abroad to get more money ( probably mostly because there's only one league and it's so difficult to get into code S). Now that BW has only one league, there might be a problem there too as teams will basically compete for less money than they had before. Also, the fact that MBCGame dies could show the popularity goes down for BW. Bad stuff for BW anyway the teams compete in proleague, osl/msl are individual leagues | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On July 27 2011 22:33 hyperknight wrote: This may be the start of the end for SCBW. We will see a bigger influx of progamers switch from BW to SC2 next month (August) when a lot of players become free agents (now that MBC is not gonna be promoting BW anymore, the mid level/low level progamers will definitely have a bigger incentive to switch over to something else) Bad news for SC:BW but I think this may be good news for SC2.Let's see how things turn out. Nevertheless, its gonna become a music channel!?!wtf? O_o Huh? I don't know where you're getting your source of BW "info" from but you're definitely misinformed. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On July 27 2011 22:33 hyperknight wrote: This may be the start of the end for SCBW. We will see a bigger influx of progamers switch from BW to SC2 next month (August) when a lot of players become free agents (now that MBC is not gonna be promoting BW anymore, the mid level/low level progamers will definitely have a bigger incentive to switch over to something else) Bad news for SC:BW but I think this may be good news for SC2.Let's see how things turn out. Nevertheless, its gonna become a music channel!?!wtf? O_o MTV becomes a reality show station. G4TV becomes a cops/cheaters only channel. MBCGame becomes a music channel. Nothing ever makes sense when it comes to TV stations. | ||
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Hieros
United States83 Posts
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1361 Posts
On July 27 2011 22:33 hyperknight wrote: This may be the start of the end for SCBW. We will see a bigger influx of progamers switch from BW to SC2 next month (August) when a lot of players become free agents (now that MBC is not gonna be promoting BW anymore, the mid level/low level progamers will definitely have a bigger incentive to switch over to something else) Bad news for SC:BW but I think this may be good news for SC2.Let's see how things turn out. Nevertheless, its gonna become a music channel!?!wtf? O_o Ok I'm going to preempt zatic telling everyone not to hit report on everything again, cos i'm sure a dozen people just hit report on this: The reason why this sort of post would get mass reported, despite the polite tone, and no overt bashing of either game. Is that this is exactly the post that BW fans do not want to see. Keeping in mind that this is in the BW general forum, while sc2 players/fans have every right to talk about the effects of MBC closing down on their game. This specifically talks about the potential benefits to sc2 due to the decline of bw. An analogy would be showing up at the funeral of a competitor and giving a eulogy on how the upcoming collapse of his company is going to benefit you as a competitor. While it is reasonable, there is a place and time for it. This particular choice of place and time just seems, to me at least, in bad taste. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On July 27 2011 22:32 TheOnly92 wrote: Well, I believe they're already getting it, now what? Are they gonna stop the plan because a lot of people are against it? I dunno man, reminds me of G4. TV executives making bad decisions seems to be the common law of the day. Either way, I am in favor of more gaming stations. Streams seem to be really picking up in popularity these days. | ||
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