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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
July 27 2011 12:55 GMT
#901
Damn, that is balls. MSL was always my favorite league T_T

So many memories.
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
July 27 2011 12:56 GMT
#902
OMFG and I thought I can`t hate Kpop even more...
Jubio
Profile Joined June 2010
United States50 Posts
July 27 2011 12:56 GMT
#903
i think i just died a little bit inside.... i hope this isn't the start of the end to one of the greatest games ever created
LOL late game terran I "Manner cc is a must, but as a ceremony it was not quite enough, manner cc needs to have at least 5 SCVs doing it" - FBH I Savior broke my heart ;_;
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
July 27 2011 12:56 GMT
#904
oh no that's horrible

Bisu better win it then! or soO...GO SOO
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
July 27 2011 12:57 GMT
#905
God damn it.

It's starting.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 12:58:01
July 27 2011 12:57 GMT
#906
On July 27 2011 21:50 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:31 ShadeR wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:28 Morta wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:24 GhostLink wrote:
cmon guys, there's always going to be SC2. BW downfall is inevitable, since SC2 has gone global, and sc BW is only still popular in Korea


BW guys seem to hate SC2,and i really have no clue why.

No we don't. Who looked forward to SC2 more than Brood War players? NOBODY! We were hyped as shit for SC2.
As it turns out many of us were disappointed with SC2 sad that it wasn't what it could have been.
Thus the point "there's always going to be SC2" is neither true, nor any consolation to us.


Starcraft 2 single handedly brought e-sports from a terrible spot that it has been in for years now in the global sense and in under a year made the main stage for so many events it is unreal. So many SC2 tournaments play for some serious money, how it got where it is in such a short time is nothing short of a miracle.

If SC2 is a disappointment I am sorry but your expectations are completely out of this world.

That being said I believe in a world where both can coexist just fine and I dont see BW going away anytime soon.


It has because of the success of it's predecessor. If it was a random new game, it would never had the same success.
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
July 27 2011 12:57 GMT
#907
Quite a sad day, and I hope this doesn't turn out to be the 'beginning of the end' that some think it will. I know eventually all gaming cycles come to an end, but it's always sad to see a classic slowly getting phased out.

Holding out hope that something else works out to give at least 2 major singles tournaments, and that this doesn't kill the proleague in the process.
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
July 27 2011 12:58 GMT
#908
What does this mean for e-sports? It's ruining it of course!
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just kidding, please don't punish me!
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
July 27 2011 12:58 GMT
#909
On July 27 2011 21:50 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:31 ShadeR wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:28 Morta wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:24 GhostLink wrote:
cmon guys, there's always going to be SC2. BW downfall is inevitable, since SC2 has gone global, and sc BW is only still popular in Korea


BW guys seem to hate SC2,and i really have no clue why.

No we don't. Who looked forward to SC2 more than Brood War players? NOBODY! We were hyped as shit for SC2.
As it turns out many of us were disappointed with SC2 sad that it wasn't what it could have been.
Thus the point "there's always going to be SC2" is neither true, nor any consolation to us.


Starcraft 2 single handedly brought e-sports from a terrible spot that it has been in for years now in the global sense and in under a year made the main stage for so many events it is unreal. So many SC2 tournaments play for some serious money, how it got where it is in such a short time is nothing short of a miracle.

If SC2 is a disappointment I am sorry but your expectations are completely out of this world.

That being said I believe in a world where both can coexist just fine and I dont see BW going away anytime soon.


disappointed in the game, not in the e-cultural results it may or may not have had
Senj
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States193 Posts
July 27 2011 12:58 GMT
#910
Wow. What a terrible way to start my morning off. I don't have half the BW history a lot of you here have, but what I did watch was some of the greatest gaming the world will ever know. I hope that OGN doesn't follow and completely sink the BW scene. We need a moment of silence for MBC.
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
July 27 2011 13:00 GMT
#911
On July 27 2011 21:35 nekoconeco wrote:
Just yesterday I was looking through photos that I took at MBC Game Hero Centre a few years ago and now this.

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:12 Cade)Flayer wrote:
This I think is a symptom of a general issue with esports as a thing compared to traditional sports like football or tennis. BW as is could well last another 10 years but to create a truly timeless esport they need to at some points introduce upgrades to the game so that younger generations will consider watching as newcomers.


I agree I've felt the same thing before. But I guess in some sports you have different leagues that have different rules. Not sure what that means though perhaps an RTS that has a modular engine where the visual elements can be easily upgraded without modifying the core game-play. It would also mean the publisher/developer would need an ongoing source of income...who knows...maybe opensource rts? Either way can Broodwar last forever? I just can't see people playing it professionally in 20, 50 years without some sort of development support it's a shame Blizzard can't do something like quake did.



About SC2 is it even shown in Korea in the same way as MSL? Isn't it pretty small time right now.

I don't know. I always thought of BW to be something more than just a sport. Something like art. In art it doesn't matter when the score was written and it's played if it is good. (Even better if you do know some historical background..).
So I assumed that BW could live forever. Especially with such a famous history and legendary players.
Naive, isn't it?
BW
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
July 27 2011 13:00 GMT
#912
Well, this sucks.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
July 27 2011 13:00 GMT
#913
On July 27 2011 16:01 nttea wrote:
sad but sort of expected, TV in general is dying and especially TV catering to young people.


Wait what? TV is consuming the planet, and young people watch as much as 6 hours a day on average (in the states)
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 27 2011 13:00 GMT
#914
On July 27 2011 21:58 Ikonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:50 Medrea wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:31 ShadeR wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:28 Morta wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:24 GhostLink wrote:
cmon guys, there's always going to be SC2. BW downfall is inevitable, since SC2 has gone global, and sc BW is only still popular in Korea


BW guys seem to hate SC2,and i really have no clue why.

No we don't. Who looked forward to SC2 more than Brood War players? NOBODY! We were hyped as shit for SC2.
As it turns out many of us were disappointed with SC2 sad that it wasn't what it could have been.
Thus the point "there's always going to be SC2" is neither true, nor any consolation to us.


Starcraft 2 single handedly brought e-sports from a terrible spot that it has been in for years now in the global sense and in under a year made the main stage for so many events it is unreal. So many SC2 tournaments play for some serious money, how it got where it is in such a short time is nothing short of a miracle.

If SC2 is a disappointment I am sorry but your expectations are completely out of this world.

That being said I believe in a world where both can coexist just fine and I dont see BW going away anytime soon.


disappointed in the game, not in the e-cultural results it may or may not have had

Thanks... you saved me from have to type a rebecca black analogy...
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 27 2011 13:01 GMT
#915
On July 27 2011 21:32 xarthaz wrote:
How the fuck? Why were they even operating at a loss, when they had such top quality show, like best casters etc. OGN is the one that has been kind of slacking IMO, but probably its the general MMO plague sweeping over the rest of gaming entertainment


True, true. TOday i was in the lab reading this fcuking news, when my friend asked me why I dont play MMO instead and saying BW is boring, no updates, same stuff u see everyday for years, while MMO has updates and is better graphic and all that shit. Then he proceeds to say, go play sc2, much better graphics. I almost flipped out and beat him up...Luckily, I was too sad and engrossed in this thread/news....
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 27 2011 13:02 GMT
#916
On July 27 2011 21:57 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:50 Medrea wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:31 ShadeR wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:28 Morta wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:24 GhostLink wrote:
cmon guys, there's always going to be SC2. BW downfall is inevitable, since SC2 has gone global, and sc BW is only still popular in Korea


BW guys seem to hate SC2,and i really have no clue why.

No we don't. Who looked forward to SC2 more than Brood War players? NOBODY! We were hyped as shit for SC2.
As it turns out many of us were disappointed with SC2 sad that it wasn't what it could have been.
Thus the point "there's always going to be SC2" is neither true, nor any consolation to us.


Starcraft 2 single handedly brought e-sports from a terrible spot that it has been in for years now in the global sense and in under a year made the main stage for so many events it is unreal. So many SC2 tournaments play for some serious money, how it got where it is in such a short time is nothing short of a miracle.

If SC2 is a disappointment I am sorry but your expectations are completely out of this world.

That being said I believe in a world where both can coexist just fine and I dont see BW going away anytime soon.


It has because of the success of it's predecessor. If it was a random new game, it would never had the same success.


We're starting to get off-topic, I'll say this last statement, then I'll stop.

I don't wish to discredit BW in the least, it obviously gave SC2 E-Sports a running start, but the push doesn't account for the success of SC2 E-Sports. If BW was the reason SC2 was so popular, it would have died 2 months in and BW would still be #1 in the E-Sports scene.

The issue isn't a matter of "SC2 is bad" or "BW is bad". They're just different games. SC2 isn't the game you fell in love with. BW isn't the game I fell in love with. Doesn't mean we have to fight to the death over it.
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Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 27 2011 13:02 GMT
#917
On July 27 2011 21:57 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:50 Medrea wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:31 ShadeR wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:28 Morta wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:24 GhostLink wrote:
cmon guys, there's always going to be SC2. BW downfall is inevitable, since SC2 has gone global, and sc BW is only still popular in Korea


BW guys seem to hate SC2,and i really have no clue why.

No we don't. Who looked forward to SC2 more than Brood War players? NOBODY! We were hyped as shit for SC2.
As it turns out many of us were disappointed with SC2 sad that it wasn't what it could have been.
Thus the point "there's always going to be SC2" is neither true, nor any consolation to us.


Starcraft 2 single handedly brought e-sports from a terrible spot that it has been in for years now in the global sense and in under a year made the main stage for so many events it is unreal. So many SC2 tournaments play for some serious money, how it got where it is in such a short time is nothing short of a miracle.

If SC2 is a disappointment I am sorry but your expectations are completely out of this world.

That being said I believe in a world where both can coexist just fine and I dont see BW going away anytime soon.


It has because of the success of it's predecessor. If it was a random new game, it would never had the same success.


THIS x infinity
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
July 27 2011 13:03 GMT
#918
Well, this is unfortunate for BW, like everyone else has said. I'm hoping OGN continues on, but it's really hard to have a lot of hope.

BTW, what about the team?
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:05:48
July 27 2011 13:03 GMT
#919
On July 27 2011 22:01 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:32 xarthaz wrote:
How the fuck? Why were they even operating at a loss, when they had such top quality show, like best casters etc. OGN is the one that has been kind of slacking IMO, but probably its the general MMO plague sweeping over the rest of gaming entertainment


True, true. TOday i was in the lab reading this fcuking news, when my friend asked me why I dont play MMO instead and saying BW is boring, no updates, same stuff u see everyday for years, while MMO has updates and is better graphic and all that shit. Then he proceeds to say, go play sc2, much better graphics. I almost flipped out and beat him up...Luckily, I was too sad and engrossed in this thread/news....


What a douche lol. Why would we play a game because of better graphics? That make no sense.

Edit: Ok ok sorry, no hate towards your friend but that's quite harsh from him
KT s0ng
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Korea (South)88 Posts
July 27 2011 13:04 GMT
#920
This is the worst. I know I'll be able to play BW forever but the scene is such a big part of the fun.

And most people are right. SC2 has a very different feel so provides little comfort to many BW fans.
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