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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it.
StuBob
Profile Joined March 2010
United States373 Posts
July 27 2011 13:43 GMT
#961
T.T
I don't want this to happen~
I play RANDOM!
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
July 27 2011 13:43 GMT
#962
On July 27 2011 22:33 hyperknight wrote:
This may be the start of the end for SCBW. We will see a bigger influx of progamers switch from BW to SC2 next month (August) when a lot of players become free agents (now that MBC is not gonna be promoting BW anymore, the mid level/low level progamers will definitely have a bigger incentive to switch over to something else)

Bad news for SC:BW but I think this may be good news for SC2.Let's see how things turn out.

Nevertheless, its gonna become a music channel!?!wtf? O_o


I don't understand why everyone thinks there will be this natural transition to SC2 from the BW players. If the attitude of the players is the same as their loyal fanbase, they'll do anything BUT that.

Which brings up an interesting point. The players would probably switch if they felt like they had support from their fanbase doing it. Are BW fans willing to support their HERO players during these times, no matter what choice makes them happy? Or are they fair weather fans
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:46:24
July 27 2011 13:45 GMT
#963
Damn................................

I'm so hoping that announcement disproves this T.T
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
July 27 2011 13:45 GMT
#964
Damn I read the other thread before this one. I didn't realize there such a high demand for pop videos and whatnot in SK. I thought that was what the Internet was for. Music videos are almost never broadcasted on TV in North America.
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
July 27 2011 13:45 GMT
#965
On July 27 2011 22:43 OPL3SA2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 22:33 hyperknight wrote:
This may be the start of the end for SCBW. We will see a bigger influx of progamers switch from BW to SC2 next month (August) when a lot of players become free agents (now that MBC is not gonna be promoting BW anymore, the mid level/low level progamers will definitely have a bigger incentive to switch over to something else)

Bad news for SC:BW but I think this may be good news for SC2.Let's see how things turn out.

Nevertheless, its gonna become a music channel!?!wtf? O_o


I don't understand why everyone thinks there will be this natural transition to SC2 from the BW players. If the attitude of the players is the same as their loyal fanbase, they'll do anything BUT that.

Which brings up an interesting point. The players would probably switch if they felt like they had support from their fanbase doing it. Are BW fans willing to support their HERO players during these times, no matter what choice makes them happy? Or are they fair weather fans

It's more a money issue. I'm pretty sure most will flock to where the money is, it's not a personal thing, it's business. Seems pretty reasonable for some of the top BW players try their hand in SC2 and win $ there considering the success of b-teamers and former a-teamers in sc2 currently.
to live is to suffer
cronaldo5909
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)15 Posts
July 27 2011 13:46 GMT
#966
On July 27 2011 15:57 Waxangel wrote:
Source: This Is Game

Not actually "shutting down" on paper, but it is in effect. The company that operates MBCGame has decided to change it into a music cable channel instead, planning to begin the process in August and complete the switch by the end of the year.

All game related activities will be wrapped up by then, with the current MSL becoming the final MBCGame Starcraft League.



They haven't said it was finalized...but they are in discussion of changing its genre to music. There are still chances that it might not decide to switch to a music channel.
Hieros
Profile Joined June 2009
United States83 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:47:49
July 27 2011 13:46 GMT
#967
On July 27 2011 22:43 OPL3SA2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 22:33 hyperknight wrote:
This may be the start of the end for SCBW. We will see a bigger influx of progamers switch from BW to SC2 next month (August) when a lot of players become free agents (now that MBC is not gonna be promoting BW anymore, the mid level/low level progamers will definitely have a bigger incentive to switch over to something else)

Bad news for SC:BW but I think this may be good news for SC2.Let's see how things turn out.

Nevertheless, its gonna become a music channel!?!wtf? O_o


I don't understand why everyone thinks there will be this natural transition to SC2 from the BW players. If the attitude of the players is the same as their loyal fanbase, they'll do anything BUT that.

Which brings up an interesting point. The players would probably switch if they felt like they had support from their fanbase doing it. Are BW fans willing to support their HERO players during these times, no matter what choice makes them happy? Or are they fair weather fans


I don't think anyone would reasonably make the "natural transition" claim, but rather he is pointing out that the shift in incentives on a talent pool may produce certain effects for SC2.

But I generally agree with the doubleupgrades that this really isn't the time to talk about it.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
July 27 2011 13:48 GMT
#968
On July 27 2011 22:40 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 22:33 hyperknight wrote:
This may be the start of the end for SCBW. We will see a bigger influx of progamers switch from BW to SC2 next month (August) when a lot of players become free agents (now that MBC is not gonna be promoting BW anymore, the mid level/low level progamers will definitely have a bigger incentive to switch over to something else)

Bad news for SC:BW but I think this may be good news for SC2.Let's see how things turn out.

Nevertheless, its gonna become a music channel!?!wtf? O_o


Ok I'm going to preempt zatic telling everyone not to hit report on everything again, cos i'm sure a dozen people just hit report on this:

The reason why this sort of post would get mass reported, despite the polite tone, and no overt bashing of either game. Is that this is exactly the post that BW fans do not want to see.

Keeping in mind that this is in the BW general forum, while sc2 players/fans have every right to talk about the effects of MBC closing down on their game. This specifically talks about the potential benefits to sc2 due to the decline of bw.

An analogy would be showing up at the funeral of a competitor and giving a eulogy on how the upcoming collapse of his company is going to benefit you as a competitor. While it is reasonable, there is a place and time for it. This particular choice of place and time just seems, to me at least, in bad taste.

Thank you.

The point it there is lots of things on this forum lots of poeple probably don't want to hear about. Well, deal with it. It can't be left to moderation to to act on perfectly fine posts just because someone "doesn't want to see" them.

There is a lot of people saying this could be good for SC2 because unless you know about the reality of it in Korea, that is just logical. It has nothing to do with hating on the other game. If you see something like this, explain why they are wrong. If it happens more often, PM the OP so he can put an explanation there.

My point is, this can't be the job of moderation. So stop reporting posts like these.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
July 27 2011 13:48 GMT
#969
It's a sad day for BW and eSport in general. I feel ill right now =/
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
July 27 2011 13:50 GMT
#970
Woah...damn.
And running through the first 27 pages of this topic makes me realize just how much I'd like to see a tl.broodwar and a tl.scII
This is getting ridiculous. It's been so nice to see the battle reports again, but we're down interviews thanks to Fomos. We had arguably one the most pitiful OSL intros and selection ceremony this year. STX is resorting to fireworks to try and stay alive. MBC might disband. Fancafes are getting shut down. We have to scroll through miles of SC II events just to get to what we want. Now, when we get some seriously bad news, we have to sift through half a topic of people telling us how the sport we've come to love is just this little hole in the dike of the flood waters of some superior game?
Fuck that.

Brood War hwaiting!

The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
July 27 2011 13:51 GMT
#971
Well this just puts a dent in my day
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
lolsixtynine
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
July 27 2011 13:51 GMT
#972
This is so sad... I hope this is not the beginning of the end because it's amazing what these players can do at BW. However if it is I really hope they don't retire and they come to SC2 or whatever game is there at the time because at the end of the day, they're fantastic gamers.

May BW continue to have a happy future.
Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
July 27 2011 13:51 GMT
#973
My jaws dropped as soon as I saw the title under Community News.

Been a lurker on these forums for quite some time, and I have to say that no other news has ever shocked me as much as this.
Dumb people don't know that they're dumb.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11929 Posts
July 27 2011 13:52 GMT
#974
On July 27 2011 22:22 Milkis wrote:
Fomos reports nothing is for certain yet. MBC Game released a statement regarding it and says that TIG was too quick to release it since it's not 100% certain yet.

Basically MBC Game says that the decision isn't finalized yet.


Hopefully they continue to handle games. The profit margin must have been falling for them to consider a switch instead of just creating another channel?
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 27 2011 13:52 GMT
#975
Trust me, this won't be pleasant for SC2 either. What's for certain is that the current system for BW in Korea will have to change, and I'm not too sure how good this will be...
metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
July 27 2011 13:52 GMT
#976
Sad to say it people but BW isn't the future; it's the past.

User was warned for this post
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
July 27 2011 13:53 GMT
#977
Crazy news really. I thought BW was going strong over in Korea, anyone have a clue as to why this might have happened and if the news isn't 100% certain, why is MBC even considering this change?
to live is to suffer
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:55:06
July 27 2011 13:54 GMT
#978
On July 27 2011 22:52 metbull wrote:
Sad to say it people but BW isn't the future; it's the past.


To me its the present. I've recently just played BW after being introduced to SCII. And I want BW to live longer!
Hieros
Profile Joined June 2009
United States83 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:57:55
July 27 2011 13:55 GMT
#979
On July 27 2011 22:50 TheGlassface wrote:
Woah...damn.
And running through the first 27 pages of this topic makes me realize just how much I'd like to see a tl.broodwar and a tl.scII
This is getting ridiculous. It's been so nice to see the battle reports again, but we're down interviews thanks to Fomos. We had arguably one the most pitiful OSL intros and selection ceremony this year. STX is resorting to fireworks to try and stay alive. MBC might disband. Fancafes are getting shut down. We have to scroll through miles of SC II events just to get to what we want. Now, when we get some seriously bad news, we have to sift through half a topic of people telling us how the sport we've come to love is just this little hole in the dike of the flood waters of some superior game?
Fuck that.

Brood War hwaiting!



1) I agree that the decline in coverage and activity is very sad.

2) Please try to remember, though I understand the source of your frustration, that many people are dedicated fans of both games, so the us and them mentality, admitting that fans of either game are not always articulate, mature, or thoughtful in expressing their views, is a bit of a false dichotomy.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
July 27 2011 13:56 GMT
#980
This is extremely sad news. I really thought MBC might transition into SC2 :/ MSL produced some really good times. I soooooooo wish they could keep fighting the good fight!
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