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On April 24 2011 09:24 bearbuddy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 09:12 cosiant wrote:
Never understood why in teamliquid Bisu received more than his share of hate. Cause TL is strongly zerg biased. Flash is the lol-turtle terran who took massive heat in the 2008-2009 season because he keeps failing out of individual leagues while he carried KT (to the point that there was a time period when some people think Fantasy might become a better player than Flash). Bisu is the lol-easy toss who hasn't had any decent run in an individual league. Jaedong is the destroyer. Yup. Not a lol-cheesy 2-hatch zerg. I don't think it has anything anymore with Savior, since most Savior fans have pretty much left the scene.
Fixed. Flash won two MSLs and two OSLs in 2009-10
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On April 24 2011 08:20 Turgid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 05:45 infinitestory wrote:
To the fans who have supported me, I'm embarrassed to even show my face. Damn. So rough on himself.
The quote makes me a little sad inside for him :[[
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On April 24 2011 09:30 _romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 09:24 bearbuddy wrote:On April 24 2011 09:12 cosiant wrote:
Never understood why in teamliquid Bisu received more than his share of hate. Cause TL is strongly zerg biased. Flash is the lol-turtle terran who took massive heat in the 2008-2009 season because he keeps failing out of individual leagues while he carried KT (to the point that there was a time period when some people think Fantasy might become a better player than Flash). Bisu is the lol-easy toss who hasn't had any decent run in an individual league. Jaedong is the destroyer. Yup. Not a lol-cheesy 2-hatch zerg. I don't think it has anything anymore with Savior, since most Savior fans have pretty much left the scene. Fixed. Flash won two MSLs and two OSLs in 2009-10
Ah, yes. I'm getting old. 2009 popped into my head. Should have just typed that.
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I guess this also has to do with korean culture and how it deals with public figures? Seems to be a lot of pressure all along the board.
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It's pretty unusual for a player to voice public frustration with not being allowed to practice for individual leagues. I'm inclined to sympathize with Bisu. Team might usually come first, but you've got to respect your players' individual hopes. The greatest group of death ever trumps an ordinary proleague match against ACE. I just hope he isn't ripped apart by SKT management/public opinion, since it feels like Korea is all "RA RA TEAM, SELFISH TO THINK ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN TEAM".
On April 24 2011 09:12 cosiant wrote:
Never understood why in teamliquid Bisu received more than his share of hate.
Savior fans.
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I am interested to see the Korean netizen reaction to this interview. Can anyone post some of the comments?
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On April 24 2011 09:05 GTR wrote:
I don't think he'll ever win an individual league ever again as long as Flash and Jaedong are around. really? i feel as if the only players that bisu cant beat in a bo5 are flash and stork(minus finals). so as long as someone eliminates flash, such as jd, bisu has a real chance. oh well, it seems bisu is really motivated i hope he can win another title, osl preferably, but ill take anything =D
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On April 24 2011 10:19 Tempest[OEC] wrote:
I am interested to see the Korean netizen reaction to this interview. Can anyone post some of the comments?
There's rather a lot of comments on the fomos interview, like 1000+ and counting. Looks like this is gonna generate a LOT of controversy. Here's the link to the fomos interview, if anyone could translate some of the comments?
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=116583&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
Also, thanks for the translation. I hope the coach gives Bisu more time to practice for individual leagues.
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Poor Bisu. Coach Park needs to know that players have their own aspirations for becoming a progamer.
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awww... bisu... you definitely deserve fan support even if you lost to flash twice.
i feel for bisu's sadness  i hope he'll do well in r5 and r6.
ps: thanks for the interview translation.
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I hope someone can tell us some of the comments.
But it is true, when was the last time we seen Bisu make it very far in the solo leagues? He plays smart and brilliant in team leagues but when it comes to MSL/OSL he tends to hold back a lot as it seems.
What are the korean netizens saying at this point? Are they against Bisu's comments? I can understand if they are mad at Bisu for calling out his Coach though. It's something I can see without any translation.
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On April 24 2011 10:44 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 10:19 Tempest[OEC] wrote:
I am interested to see the Korean netizen reaction to this interview. Can anyone post some of the comments? There's rather a lot of comments on the fomos interview, like 950 and counting. Looks like this is gonna generate a LOT of controversy. Here's the link to the fomos interview, if anyone could translate some of the comments? http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=116583&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=Also, thanks for the translation. I hope the coach gives Bisu more time to practice for individual leagues.
I'd love to know as well! Someone translate a little pretty please? =]
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As I remember for his 30Q&A, I feel rather nervous to approach to practicing for individual leagues. Since the match-ups for Proleague come hard and fast, and it's almost impossible to predict for certain who you're going to play, having strong fundamentals is what allows in-form Bisu to dominate.
I think the problem right now is two-fold. We know from interviews that he practices more than anyone, but he might be overburdened now more than ever, especially since I suspect that Coach Park puts great emphasis on the team leagues, and I sense hesitation to help accommodate player's practice. I can also understand his frustration: nobody can deny he is a strong player, but he just doesn't seem to be able to produce in the individual leagues ever since Avalon...
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Seems to be a mix, but mostly in favor of Bisu. I'll put a few common excerpts below
Pro-Bisu:
I've never seen him go this far, he must have been really frustrated...
He should switch teams, even if he does get paid less...
His last line made me so sad. TT
Please keep your spirits up! We believe in you Taekshin!
Anti-Bisu:
What an excuse.
He should have practiced the two days he had between SWL finals and MSL instead of resting.
Other players like Flash and Jaedong have had it much worse in the past.
Look at Fantasy, he doesn't blame the team, just says he didn't practice enough and it was him playing badly.
In general though, most are being sympathetic to Bisu. I think because alot are Bisu fans. Apparently Fantasy had said in the past he had to secretly practice as well. But alot of people are surprised Bisu would bring it up in an interview.... ALOT. Bisu fans being shocked and worried for Bisu; T1 fans saying he's paid for a reason and blaming the team is a poor excuse. There are as of now 1038 replies on that interview... compare with 39 for Fantasy's interview and 177/168 for the people who advance from Group D.
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Where's the Fantasy interview?
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I can't stop coming back here. It's just so sad...
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He REALLY needs a SL...
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Well I am not sure whether it is a good idea for Bisu to bring it to public. b/c these words might sound like offense to the coaches and team leaders. Plus, Fantasy asserted he got enough time to practise for MSL, although eliminated, in the interview after the match with ACE. So.... I bet it is a two-fold problem, but at least this is not a good timing for Bisu to talk about it in the interview.
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Although that's true, his frustration and sadness about the fans still hurt
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