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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
On April 03 2011 07:28 Milkis wrote: don't see why that allows them the right to copy paste without permission. Nonono I wasn't talking about copy paste issue, I was referring to translating DES articles. Unless the Chinese website also translate DES articles. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On April 03 2011 05:05 Too_MuchZerg wrote: Well article is Fomos property... Did translator ask permission to translate it? if not then they could use it. Unethical though. Well, the ethics of TL getting hits from their interviews is kind of questionable too, even if we do link to the source. The only thing that is weird, is why the hell would they want to be dependent on a bunch of people who do this for free and could burn out/randomly decide they don't feel like it. I get the feeling maybe someone who was supposed to do the translation for them just took the easy way out, and will do translations for things he can't just steal. Maybe. Pure inane speculation. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Love awkward interview of s2 who win one and lost one. They call it assist. I call it a trade off. | ||
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
Here's hoping Coach Park does have a master plan, though as he noted, KT is looking solid on most fronts atm. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
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cabarkapa
United States1011 Posts
On April 03 2011 09:26 Louuster wrote: Lol Bisu saying my PVZ is terrible.. Happens to anyone who practices with HyuK | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
If Hyuk and Bisu are on a team kill collision in the individual leagues, I'm rooting for Hyuk. :D | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On April 03 2011 06:35 disciple wrote: oh, coach park so mysterious. a weapon to take out flash, jeez who could that be. best is mia for so long could it be him? :X Not quite. The correct answer is + Show Spoiler + valkyries | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
 or maybe best ALL KILL would be fantastic. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
What Daniel could have done, was copy/paste the translations, and add a line in the bottom along the lines of "Content by fomos, translations by ____ of tl.net" (or similar). Everybody wins. He gets free translations to post, translators would be reaching a bigger base, and fomos establishes a better relationship with TL. Instead, he posts this: lol everybody's been stealing material from fomos for years without permission, read the bottom of every article,not legal and the pics being used everywhere as their content, highly illegal lol. if I see fomos content being used anywhere other than fomos, pics too, it's gonna come back right where it's supposed to,translations,etc. Don't take fomos content without permission,its illegal. Don't bitch at me for bringing back wut is rightfully fomos's property to begin With, that includes pics as well Actions will be taken especially if someone is profiting from it So instead of thanking the people who volunteer their time to bring these interviews to the rest of the world, he prefers to call them thieves and threaten them with 'actions', thus alienating parts of a community instead of unifying it. So if translators stop translating (or move to DES sources instead), Daniel loses out on translations. This means either doing all the translations himself, finding his own staff of volunteers or not have english translations on fomos. And for what? ego? I don't see the logic. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On April 03 2011 07:20 supernovamaniac wrote: @Milkis: The thing is, infinitestory translates from chinese source, which only translates fomos articles... I think. Not true. | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
All the translations wiil be reposted on fomos, send me ur full name and intentions I will post ur names along with it. So translators will get credits  | ||
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GoodRamen
United States713 Posts
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GoodRamen
United States713 Posts
On April 03 2011 11:36 Cambium wrote: Just read this on SDM's twitter: So translators will get credits i thought it will be their own translation but w/e, they should post name and the link from teamliquid | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
I might be something like milkis@TL | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
On April 03 2011 11:20 moopie wrote: While Daniel Lee has the right to do and say what he did, I feel that his actions are really counterproductive to the community. Since his eSTRO days he has been trying to "bring e-sports to the west" and now he is helping fomos set up an english site, thats great. Similarly, TL translators have put time and effort for a long time now to translate and bring interviews/articles to the non-korean speaking population, and a source is always included in the translation (so credit is given). What Daniel could have done, was copy/paste the translations, and add a line in the bottom along the lines of "Content by fomos, translations by ____ of tl.net" (or similar). Everybody wins. He gets free translations to post, translators would be reaching a bigger base, and fomos establishes a better relationship with TL. Instead, he posts this: So instead of thanking the people who volunteer their time to bring these interviews to the rest of the world, he prefers to call them thieves and threaten them with 'actions', thus alienating parts of a community instead of unifying it. So if translators stop translating (or move to DES sources instead), Daniel loses out on translations. This means either doing all the translations himself, finding his own staff of volunteers or not have english translations on fomos. And for what? ego? I don't see the logic. What's with this sense of entitlement you guys have? You guys pissed him off by bitching at him. Talk about double standards. Shit from fomos is taken all the time, it doesnt matter if you cite the source, people been doing w/e they want for years. Few translations of their original interviews are taken and people are outraged? | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On April 03 2011 12:01 FakePlasticLove wrote: What's with this sense of entitlement you guys have? You guys pissed him off by bitching at him. Talk about double standards. Shit from fomos is taken all the time, it doesnt matter if you cite the source, people been doing w/e they want for years. Few translations of their original interviews are taken and people are outraged? Translators a) always cite the source, and b) actually do something other than copy/paste (and spend a good deal of time to do the translation; average post-Proleague translation is around 15-30 minutes/interview at least.) I guess TL doesn't have much right to rage at him, but I think Fomos/SDM should have the decency to thank the translator. | ||
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