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Jaester88
Profile Joined September 2009
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 00:39:33
January 27 2011 19:09 GMT
#1
Comments and criticisms are welcome.

Sources:
www.fomos.kr
www.dailyesports.com

Lee Je Dong (Jaedong), “I think I may have let my guard down a bit.”
I may have advanced partly due to maps

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Q: You advanced to the Semifinals after a hard fought full-set Bo5.
A: I fought a much harder battle than I had expected. Even though I won, it was a really difficult set of games. Snow seems to have prepared extremely well, and I was surprised at how good his harassment play was.

Q: What did you think of Snow’s play today?
A: I do think I let my guard down a bit, and that’s something I need to reflect on and try not to repeat. To be honest, I’ve been losing a lot since this morning in practice, and I did kind of have a bad feeling about this series. And accordingly, coming into the series today I didn’t play as well as I could have. I did win, but I feel iffy about it.

Q: Snow’s High Templar harassment was top-notch.
A: With my style, I’m usually not very vulnerable to harassment. So I was pretty confident in that regard, but I ended up getting harassed at almost a dizzying pace. Because of that, I ended up even allowing a comeback in a game I was ahead in (*sigh*).

Q: Which game was the most difficult?
A: Set 4 on Benzene was the hardest. Snow came prepared with a build that I did not anticipate. Combined with that, getting harassed just once I couldn’t really focus that well. I was really disappointed with that game partly because Benzene was my most confident map. It even made me think to myself that I may lose the last set; I entered the last set with a ‘we'll see what happens’ sort of attitude.

Q: You’ve made it to the semi-finals 5 seasons in a row now. This is a chance to wash away the unpleasant memories of two silvers in an MSL in a row. I feel like you’ll be confident because the semi-final will be against a Zerg.
A: It is quite amazing. It is quite satisfying that I’ve been in the semi-finals for almost a year now. [T/N: This is not a translation error; I realize that 5 seasons is more than a year and almost approaching two years. That’s just what the interview says.] Firstly my goal is a gold, and I am confident in meeting a Zerg in the semi-final, but as long as I don’t underestimate my opponent and play to the best of my abilities I feel like I could win.

Q: What do you think were the major factors involved in winning this series?
A: I didn’t think I’d win on Triathlon. I was so confident in winning on Benzene and Circuit Breaker that I hardly practiced at all for Triathlon. So I thought ‘I should try to win the rest of maps as much as I can’ but winning set 3 was really the winning point for me, I think.

Q: Any last words?
A: Thanks for the teammates that helped me practice and thanks to Killer for giving me advice on builds. Yesterday and today, the coach and the manager both gave me lots of support, and I think that helped. I do feel like my fans will be a little worried about my play recently. I feel like Snow played extremely well, but I advanced at least partly because of maps. I had a good experience today, and I learned something too, so I’d like to take home the winning trophy without causing too much distress to my fans.




Kim Myung Woon (Zero), “This is my prime chance for a championship.”
I want to face Kal in the semi-finals

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Q: This is the first semi-finals in five seasons.
A: I’ve had this quarterfinals jinx for a while now. I think this is because of the mental pressure I face before really important games. Today I think I advanced without those sort of pressures. I’m still having a kind of difficult time appreciating the fact that I am in the semi-finals.

Q: Your advancement to the semi-finals was easier than expected.
A: I did come to the stadium aiming for a 3-0. I won with some luck in set 2, so I feel like that helped me solve set 3 patiently.

Q: There is a prevailing opinion that the maps are favored for Zergs.
A: I don’t think it really favors Zergs that much. There are certainly maps good for Protoss. I personally think that just as much as there are maps that favor Zergs, there are two maps that favor Protoss as well. Luckily, I think the order of the maps favored me in this series though. I thought the maps that favored Zergs over Protoss were positioned at the beginning of the series, giving me an advantage to win.

Q: After a 2-0 lead, I feel like you would have felt that you had a good chance at taking the series with Dante’s Peak as the third set.
A: I did think that, but I shook off the thought immediately considering such thoughts could lead to my defeat. I tried to focus on the game immediately.

Q: You are now the team captain.
A: It was actually decided before announcement within our team. Even in yesterday’s game I was taking on the role of captain of our team. I have seniority over most members of my team, and even in age I am older than most other members as well. As a team leader, I need to show leadership, so I feel that my ambition for winning my matches has grown as well. I will take the position of team leader with good responsibility.

Q: Did your loss streak in Proleague affect your games today?
A: It’s been kind of hard for me recently because of my stagnant results in Proleague. But the games I need to play are there, so I tried to focus my best on the games that were right in front of me. It would be a lie to say that the losses didn’t affect me at all, but I thought that I needed to work my hardest for the upcoming sets.

Q: Who do you want to face in the semi-finals?
A: Honestly, it is more comfortable for me to face Kal. Not only is he a Protoss, but I am ahead in head-to-head statistics, so I think I’ll be more comfortable if he makes it to the semi-finals.

Q: You must be ambitious about a championship.
A: I think this is my prime time for a championship. With me gaining some age, I feel like my hand movements have slowed down a bit, so I think I need to win right now (laughs). I really do want to win.

Q: Any last words?
A: There is a Proleague match on Sunday. It’s the last match before the Lunar New Year, and our team’s been kind of in the dumps recently due to us not been doing so well recently, but I really want us to win, and go into the holiday with a relaxed mind.


Congratulations to Jaedong for taking the series after a well-fought, extremely awesome set of games!

Kudos to Snow, my favorite rookie, for putting up the games of your life, and showing us that you are capable of great things

Congrats to Zero, for getting a well-deserved advancement far into the leagues after a long time!

As for Stork, dual-leaguing is hard, and I wish you the best in the OSL Finals anyway.

Also, totally unrelated to this topic, but best of luck to Violet; get well soon.

prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
January 27 2011 19:13 GMT
#2
YAAAY I am so happy!
Thx for translating !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
January 27 2011 19:14 GMT
#3
Thanks for translating, can't wait to see JD finally take the MSL!
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
January 27 2011 19:21 GMT
#4
so close snow, so close



oh well. gogo JD!
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
January 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#5
Man when I heard that JD was fighting Snow I never would have guessed it would have been such an intense and impressive series. I was staying up mainly for stork vs zero (which I will not comment on in order to avoid spoiling it)


thanks to Killer for giving me advice on builds


This was my favorite part
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
January 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#6
Thx alot for translations Jaester!

Jaedong taking this in a very good way: as a sportsman and as a champion.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
January 27 2011 19:38 GMT
#7
Thanks a bunch for the interview, been waiting for this!! Dang major props to Snow he seriously played his heart out this series.

And lol @ JD taking BO advice from killer o_O
Jaedong :D
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 27 2011 19:38 GMT
#8
Wonder if Flash will ever admit his dual golds were probably helped by maps

Anyhow, quality interview...I just feel like nowadays JD is always apologizing for shaky play, and it never seems like he's playing 100% to me at least.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
January 27 2011 19:40 GMT
#9
Thanks for the interview.

Jaedong is such a good sport. When maps favor zerg, he's willing to acknowledge it (unlike Flash) but when maps are terrible for zerg (last 3 MSLs), he never complains or tries to use that as an excuse. Also, I'm glad he acknowledged Snow's amazing play rather than just putting himself down for letting it get that close.
dras
Profile Joined August 2010
Kazakhstan376 Posts
January 27 2011 19:43 GMT
#10
jd is the man <3
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 27 2011 19:48 GMT
#11
On January 28 2011 04:22 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
thanks to Killer for giving me advice on builds


This was my favorite part


Killer destroyed Snow on Circuit Breaker. Jaedong should have used his turtle hive tech style instead of going for lair play on that map.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
January 27 2011 19:52 GMT
#12
Amazing series... Too bad for snow
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
January 27 2011 19:55 GMT
#13
On January 28 2011 04:40 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Thanks for the interview.

Jaedong is such a good sport. When maps favor zerg, he's willing to acknowledge it (unlike Flash) but when maps are terrible for zerg (last 3 MSLs), he never complains or tries to use that as an excuse. Also, I'm glad he acknowledged Snow's amazing play rather than just putting himself down for letting it get that close.


He'd have to be delusional not to acknowledge that Snow played much better in that series than he did in their first game in the MSL Group B Winner's Match:



The difference between Snow in this game and Snow in their quarterfinals matches is really striking, I thought.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 27 2011 20:03 GMT
#14
thanks so much for the translation!
Writer
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
January 27 2011 20:05 GMT
#15
So disappointed
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 27 2011 20:12 GMT
#16
Just glad to see Jaedong advance man did that have my pumping last night :D.

Was surprised to see a Zero 3-0 sweep I expected Stork to take at least one game
When I think of something else, something will go here
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
January 27 2011 20:20 GMT
#17
Yes, great job ZerO.. can't wait to watch those games.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
January 27 2011 20:29 GMT
#18
wow the JD vs Snow series was soooo fuckin awesome. The quality of games was much higher than I anticipated.

and quite the opposite for the zero/stork series IMO...
jaedong imba
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 27 2011 20:32 GMT
#19
JD vs. Stork was defintely awesome. Go JD!
Jaedong :3
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
January 27 2011 20:33 GMT
#20
Watch as either Stork himself or his fans make more drama out of this.

Anyways, I'll be watching game 4 of Snow vs Jaedong, it sounds really good. Thanks for the translation!
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 27 2011 20:38 GMT
#21
I'm glad the series with JD and Snow went 3-2, even though Snow didn't win he is showing that he has the ability to become a champion sometime down the road with his continued improvement.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
barkles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States285 Posts
January 27 2011 20:48 GMT
#22
The games between Jaedong and Snow were an awesome, amazing, totally baller series. Props to JD for winning it, but I was rooting for Snow
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 27 2011 20:53 GMT
#23
The only person who could stop JD was just knocked out by Zero.

EZ gold!
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States405 Posts
January 27 2011 20:55 GMT
#24
wowow Snow was so on-point today but unfortunately there could only be one winner

definitely gonna root for Snow now, if he keeps this up, he could become the next protoss to get a gold
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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 21:05:29
January 27 2011 21:04 GMT
#25
Like many others, I was amazed at how much Snow put up a fight against Jaedong. Everyone was saying that Jaedong would easily 3-0 Snow, but Snow proved us all wrong. Had Jaedong slipped up a bit more, we could have seen Snow advancing to the semi-finals. I am thoroughly impressed with Snow's performance; he definitely has a lot of potential in the future and may advance even farther next time. I'll have to watch this guy more often now.

Great translation, thanks for your hard work and effort! It's very appreciated!
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 27 2011 21:08 GMT
#26
Zero is too cute :3
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
January 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#27
Such a nice and honest interviews of my favorite zergs. I'm so happy today.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
January 27 2011 21:16 GMT
#28
Zero such a baller, aiming for 3-0 already before the matches
Aah thats the stuff..
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
January 27 2011 21:22 GMT
#29
Storks Momentum was flopped in this series he barely looked like he was trying.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 27 2011 21:27 GMT
#30
Nice, thanks!

Lee Jaedong fighting!!
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#31
zero wants kal for semis so he doesn't get eliminated by JD, lulz

i was disappointed by JD's form at the start, but he really picked up through the series. that last game was just amazing
Hey! Listen!
HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 21:59:51
January 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#32
I'm laughing at the fact that snOw's PvZ looked a hell of a lot better than Stork's.

Not to say that snOw's a bad player but isn't he (still somewhat) a rookie? Stork's had a lot of time to perfect each of his match-ups but I can only see him as an S-Class PvT player and a B-Class PvZer....

Getting over Stork's terrible results, I think Jaedong needs to start changing his perspective on how to play out ZvP; Protoss players are starting to get better at countering the presently standard greedy macro style that Zerg's are used to abusing against Protoss players, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jaedong's greedy playstyle get punished by a decent PvZ player during an important match.

While it doesn't have to be necessarily Jaedong, I think it's somewhat necessary for a Zerg to change things up to counter the Speedlot movement that's taking place these days.

EDIT: I'm looking forward to good things from snOw; that's twice now where he has pulled off a stunning performance against an S-Class player (FlaSh in an Ace Match in last season's Proleague, now in this series vs. Jaedong). I'm hoping he won't burn and fade out like mOvie did though.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#33
On January 28 2011 04:09 Jaester88 wrote:
Q: What do you think were the major factors involved in winning this series?
A: I didn’t think I’d win on Triathlon. I was so confident in winning on Benzene and Circuit Breaker that I hardly practiced at all for Triathlon. So I thought ‘I should try to win the rest of maps as much as I can’ but winning set 3 was really the winning point for me, I think.
Jaedong wins when he thinks he'll lose and loses when he thinks he'll win

He completely dismantled Snow on Triathon, so I'm wondering why he felt that way. I guess it's just due to Snow's incredible Sair/Reaver play that was completely countered by going super fast muta, iirc.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
January 27 2011 22:39 GMT
#34
On January 28 2011 06:56 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
I'm laughing at the fact that snOw's PvZ looked a hell of a lot better than Stork's.

Not to say that snOw's a bad player but isn't he (still somewhat) a rookie? Stork's had a lot of time to perfect each of his match-ups but I can only see him as an S-Class PvT player and a B-Class PvZer....

Getting over Stork's terrible results, I think Jaedong needs to start changing his perspective on how to play out ZvP; Protoss players are starting to get better at countering the presently standard greedy macro style that Zerg's are used to abusing against Protoss players, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jaedong's greedy playstyle get punished by a decent PvZ player during an important match.

While it doesn't have to be necessarily Jaedong, I think it's somewhat necessary for a Zerg to change things up to counter the Speedlot movement that's taking place these days.

EDIT: I'm looking forward to good things from snOw; that's twice now where he has pulled off a stunning performance against an S-Class player (FlaSh in an Ace Match in last season's Proleague, now in this series vs. Jaedong). I'm hoping he won't burn and fade out like mOvie did though.

well if stork would play against any Zerg like he does vs Jaedong he would easily be a P bonjwa!^^
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 27 2011 22:51 GMT
#35
Thanks a lot for the translations. Zero is such a cutie-pie. Best of luck in the semi-finals against Great (the games on Saturday are just a formality)
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 27 2011 22:57 GMT
#36
On January 28 2011 06:56 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
I'm laughing at the fact that snOw's PvZ looked a hell of a lot better than Stork's.

Not to say that snOw's a bad player but isn't he (still somewhat) a rookie? Stork's had a lot of time to perfect each of his match-ups but I can only see him as an S-Class PvT player and a B-Class PvZer....

Getting over Stork's terrible results, I think Jaedong needs to start changing his perspective on how to play out ZvP; Protoss players are starting to get better at countering the presently standard greedy macro style that Zerg's are used to abusing against Protoss players, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jaedong's greedy playstyle get punished by a decent PvZ player during an important match.

While it doesn't have to be necessarily Jaedong, I think it's somewhat necessary for a Zerg to change things up to counter the Speedlot movement that's taking place these days.

EDIT: I'm looking forward to good things from snOw; that's twice now where he has pulled off a stunning performance against an S-Class player (FlaSh in an Ace Match in last season's Proleague, now in this series vs. Jaedong). I'm hoping he won't burn and fade out like mOvie did though.

B-class PvZer? You must not have seen many of Stork's games this season.
And "greedy macro syle" wasn't the reason why Jaedong dropped those 2 games against Snow.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
January 27 2011 23:34 GMT
#37
On January 28 2011 05:33 newvsoldschool wrote:
Watch as either Stork himself or his fans make more drama out of this.

Anyways, I'll be watching game 4 of Snow vs Jaedong, it sounds really good. Thanks for the translation!


Watch game 3,4,5. I mean it. Especially game 5 for that last minute pulling all the stops. And game 3 was nice, too, for the recklessness and ballsiness of it.

Basically, all 4 sets were must see's. Just look at those :

(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Snow
Poll: Recommend Set 2?

Yes (117)
 
94%

No (5)
 
4%

If you have time (2)
 
2%

124 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Set 3?

Yes (101)
 
87%

No (8)
 
7%

If you have time (7)
 
6%

116 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Set 4?

Yes (133)
 
96%

No (4)
 
3%

If you have time (1)
 
1%

138 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Set 5?

Yes (160)
 
98%

No (3)
 
2%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

163 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
January 28 2011 00:20 GMT
#38
thank you for the translation :D

and congratz to Jaedong and Zero !!!
Learn,live and love it.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 28 2011 00:28 GMT
#39
On January 28 2011 06:56 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
I'm laughing at the fact that snOw's PvZ looked a hell of a lot better than Stork's.

Not to say that snOw's a bad player but isn't he (still somewhat) a rookie? Stork's had a lot of time to perfect each of his match-ups but I can only see him as an S-Class PvT player and a B-Class PvZer....

Getting over Stork's terrible results, I think Jaedong needs to start changing his perspective on how to play out ZvP; Protoss players are starting to get better at countering the presently standard greedy macro style that Zerg's are used to abusing against Protoss players, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jaedong's greedy playstyle get punished by a decent PvZ player during an important match.

While it doesn't have to be necessarily Jaedong, I think it's somewhat necessary for a Zerg to change things up to counter the Speedlot movement that's taking place these days.

EDIT: I'm looking forward to good things from snOw; that's twice now where he has pulled off a stunning performance against an S-Class player (FlaSh in an Ace Match in last season's Proleague, now in this series vs. Jaedong). I'm hoping he won't burn and fade out like mOvie did though.


Well its kinda like how Zero's zvp looked a lot better then Jaedongs. He absolutely crushed stork in all 3 games (first game being my favorite ). Dunno its a good thing Jaedongs zvz is still god mode so hopefully he does win this msl :D

As for stork I am not going to lie I wanted Zero to win (2nd favorite player after Jaedong :D) but man I did not expect a 3-0 sweep especially with how dominating stork has been lately I thought zero would lose but zero just played phenomenal.
When I think of something else, something will go here
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
January 28 2011 00:33 GMT
#40
On January 28 2011 09:28 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2011 06:56 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
I'm laughing at the fact that snOw's PvZ looked a hell of a lot better than Stork's.

Not to say that snOw's a bad player but isn't he (still somewhat) a rookie? Stork's had a lot of time to perfect each of his match-ups but I can only see him as an S-Class PvT player and a B-Class PvZer....

Getting over Stork's terrible results, I think Jaedong needs to start changing his perspective on how to play out ZvP; Protoss players are starting to get better at countering the presently standard greedy macro style that Zerg's are used to abusing against Protoss players, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jaedong's greedy playstyle get punished by a decent PvZ player during an important match.

While it doesn't have to be necessarily Jaedong, I think it's somewhat necessary for a Zerg to change things up to counter the Speedlot movement that's taking place these days.

EDIT: I'm looking forward to good things from snOw; that's twice now where he has pulled off a stunning performance against an S-Class player (FlaSh in an Ace Match in last season's Proleague, now in this series vs. Jaedong). I'm hoping he won't burn and fade out like mOvie did though.


Well its kinda like how Zero's zvp looked a lot better then Jaedongs. He absolutely crushed stork in all 3 games (first game being my favorite ). Dunno its a good thing Jaedongs zvz is still god mode so hopefully he does win this msl :D

As for stork I am not going to lie I wanted Zero to win (2nd favorite player after Jaedong :D) but man I did not expect a 3-0 sweep especially with how dominating stork has been lately I thought zero would lose but zero just played phenomenal.
Not the same at all. Zero had some clever builds and props to him for that, but my overall impression from that series was that Stork just did not play very well. In Snow vs. Jaedong, on the other hand: game 1 was a little sloppy from both players and game 2 featured some awful decision-making by Jaedong (in retrospect; to be fair, Snow's defense was absolutely clutch that game and it's hard to fault JD for thinking he had it). With those two exceptions aside, the level of play from both players throughout that series was jaw-droppingly amazing.
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Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
January 28 2011 00:33 GMT
#41
Thanks for the translation! Interviews were awesome.
Snow really did play amazingly and had me really worried, luckily JD pulled through tho.

I'm pretty disappointed with Stork, I was hoping he'd pull through so we could have JD vs Stork finals
Zeros still my second fav Zerg after JD, but I just don't think his ZvZ is up to par compared to his other two matchups.

Anyway, looking forward to the future! JD BONJWA!

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Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
January 28 2011 00:34 GMT
#42
So would you guys say it was Stork played poorly, or Zero played well? Ratings for each player (for each set maybe? :3)

I was devastated to see Stork lose...I was also rooting for Federer and I woke up to see that both of them were 3-0'd hard. T_____T Both apparently(?) also came back strong in the 2nd "set" but lost anyway...ugh...disappointed in Stork and Federer equally as I thought it was both their time to shine in the finals... OSL won't even be that amazing because either Stork wins with SvT, or Fanta just pulls off an upset and Stork loses, which is terrible in and of itself.

GG Zero and Jaedong, but definitely Jaedong for MSL gold!! :D
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 28 2011 00:37 GMT
#43
Didn't see Stork vs ZerO, but here's what I think of Snow vs Jaedong:

Set 1:
Snow 1.5/5
Jaedong 3/5

Set 2:
Snow 4/5
Jaedong 2.5/5

Set 3:
Snow 2/5
Jaedong 3.5/5

Set 4:
Snow 4.5/5
Jaedong 3/5

Set 5:
Snow 4/5
Jaedong 5/5
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 28 2011 00:42 GMT
#44
+ Show Spoiler +

I disagree with the above post. The quality of last 4 games was ridicously high; both players might look up sloppy cause harras requires lots of multitask and obv trolles the zerg. Also haters saying jd just needed more scourges its nonsence; snow built many sairs on all games and always cleared the path with sairs before storming. On game 5 snow play ridicously well (harrass, good storms, reavers with main army) and would have won prolly on any smaller map. That said, JD played very good as well.

The only problem i'm having lately is that I finally like the progamers who are actually winning (Flash is losing) and i'm not sure who to root for. Hope either JD or Zero win this. Would love to watch more Zero vs P/T in bo5 =(.
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
January 28 2011 00:45 GMT
#45
"and thanks to Killer for giving me advice on builds."


HAHAHA, this one is priceless :D
I have to return some videotapes.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
January 28 2011 00:46 GMT
#46
I disagree with jalstar's rating for set three: I would rate that more like
Snow 2.5/5 (decent try, but could not avoid getting steamrolled)
JD 5/5 (dominated)

For the Stork/Zero games, some rough ratings:

Set 1:
Zero 5/5 (for clever build)
Stork 3/5 (played all right but was completely fooled by Zero)

Set 2:
Zero 3/5
Stork 1.5/5 (honestly hard to rate this; both had risky and utterly bizarre builds; Stork ended up getting crushed badly)

Set 3:
Zero 4/5 (opening didn't pan out the way he hoped; adapted and played very well all game)
Stork 2/5 (by this point Stork looked like he was just waiting to get out of the series)
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Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
January 28 2011 01:07 GMT
#47
So consensus is that last 4 games of JD vs Snow were very, very high quality, while Stork essentially played terribly throughout the series against Zero? :'(

So much for Stork not appearing in SPL because he wanted to practice...T_T
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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 01:12:20
January 28 2011 01:12 GMT
#48
I thought games 4 and 5 were really good. Games 2 and 3 were both decided by critical stupid mistakes though, i.e. JD's hyperaggression at the front instead of expanding behind a contain... Snow's repeated attempts to take his 3rd without any defense, and then overreaction with the 3rd stargate. I thought games 4 and 5 were some of the best play I've ever seen. Though the outcome of game 5 can arguably be said to have resulted from a poor choice by Snow to base trade on such a big map...
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Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
January 28 2011 01:21 GMT
#49
I have no idea how Snow lost game 5. Up 5 bases to 4, big roaming army. Every tech tree branch filled out.

Maybe Jaedong really does cheat.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 28 2011 01:27 GMT
#50
On January 28 2011 10:12 Gummy wrote:
I thought games 4 and 5 were really good. Games 2 and 3 were both decided by critical stupid mistakes though, i.e. JD's hyperaggression at the front instead of expanding behind a contain... Snow's repeated attempts to take his 3rd without any defense, and then overreaction with the 3rd stargate. I thought games 4 and 5 were some of the best play I've ever seen. Though the outcome of game 5 can arguably be said to have resulted from a poor choice by Snow to base trade on such a big map...

Game 2 was fine imo. His decision-making wasn't bad and he lost the game because of one single scarab. Even with Snow's awesome control and placement, Jaedong eventually broke the defense. Would have preferred a 3-0 sweep but at least he won.

Also, ignore jalstar.
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
January 28 2011 01:28 GMT
#51
I think it is often impossible to tell if a player wins because he played well, or the other player simply played badly. A good player playing well can make another player look bad with fantastic play. It really is all relative.

I do question Stork's decision to play such a risky build on Benzene though, being behind already and on a map that is good for Protoss he should have stuck to standard play to give himself the best chance in that series.

As for game 2 of JD vs Snow, it wasn't badly played by JD at all. His killer instinct and willingness to really go all-in when he goes all-in (not some half-hearted BS we sometimes see from pros) is one of the things that makes him such a strong player. He was very, very close to winning the game too, it was Snow's absolutely clutch reaver defence that won the game for him (mad props for that!). One dud scarab at the wrong time or one slightly to slow reactions pulling back the reaver and I think he would have lost that for sure.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
January 28 2011 01:33 GMT
#52
The dream of double silver, dashed by he has has zero.
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Agrajag
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden38 Posts
January 28 2011 10:47 GMT
#53
I agree with Lucumo and Goragoth. Maybe if JD was playing at his absolute peak, he would dominate with 3-0. But all the games were close, and they both played at an extremely high level. Maybe JD could have practiced harder, and I felt like he under rated Snow a bit. I can only assume that's why he was disappointed - he found himself at a disadvantage in the mind games, when Snow turned out to play better than ever.

But not practising hard for a match that you're by far the favourite to win is a natural, and often strategic thing to do. Almost everybody expected JD to have a much easier fight than he did, and Snow really was playing much better than anybody thought he would. If Snow hadn't played that well, not practising so much would have been the best strategy for JD. It's impossible to practise for every game as if it's going to be the OSL finals.

In regards to game 2, in retrospect the best option for JD would probably have been to snipe the nexus. But I remember as I was watching it that I thought JD was being clever for walking past the nexus and going for the kill - it looked to me like he had it. It would also have looked equally bad if JD had tried to kill the nexus, but failed, and there was no way of knowing in advance if that could happen.

And I think it's incredible that JD even managed to break the natural to begin with, because Snow showed some of the best reaver control that I've ever seen. I don't think it was JD's fault that he lost so much to the reaver, but rather skill on Snow's behalf, to make it turn out that way. His reaver play throughout the whole series was amazing. And had those reavers had 30 kills instead of 35, JD would have rolled right over him.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
January 28 2011 11:31 GMT
#54
On January 28 2011 09:37 jalstar wrote:
Didn't see Stork vs ZerO, but here's what I think of Snow vs Jaedong:

Set 1:
Snow 1.5/5
Jaedong 3/5

Set 2:
Snow 4/5
Jaedong 2.5/5

Set 3:
Snow 2/5
Jaedong 3.5/5

Set 4:
Snow 4.5/5
Jaedong 3/5

Set 5:
Snow 4/5
Jaedong 5/5

You think Jaedong should have expected the best reaver micro in the world in game 2? If he had broken Snow there, he would have looked very dominant. He did micro mistakes that cost him the game, but 2.5 is an very low rating imo. The same thing goes for Snow in game 1: he played great, but got his first shuttle killed by scourge. If the scourge wasn't exactly there at that exact moment, he would have had a good game. In conclusion: your rating is opportuistic imo.
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Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
January 28 2011 11:52 GMT
#55
Thanks for the translation!

I hope that Zero meets Kal in the semi-finals just so our Protoss giant can make the tiny Zerg swallow his words
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 28 2011 16:06 GMT
#56
snow played so damn good man i was so surprised. thoguht it would be 3-0 rape ez.

congrats zero and jd
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pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
January 28 2011 16:19 GMT
#57
GO KAL! please beat great and zero. and jaedong, please beat kal in the finals :p
yoyo!
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
January 28 2011 16:21 GMT
#58
On January 28 2011 10:07 Z3kk wrote:
So consensus is that last 4 games of JD vs Snow were very, very high quality, while Stork essentially played terribly throughout the series against Zero? :'(

So much for Stork not appearing in SPL because he wanted to practice...T_T


More than saying that Stork played badly, one should say that he prepared badly. Zero came in with three well-crafted, Stork-tailored builds, and Stork obliged by playing right into his expectations.

For all intents and purposes, Zero won the series all the way back in the practice house. Stork should've skipped more Proleague games because he was made to look very bad by Zero.
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polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1752 Posts
January 28 2011 16:24 GMT
#59
JD looked like he was disappointed that he actually won the series. I did feel like at parts of the game he was almost deliberately losing. Sending his drones straight into storms repeatedly? Sitting back in Game 5 while up 2 bases? No game face? This is one of the times I was really looking forward to the winners interview translation to explain what was going through his head. Now at least it explained a few of that. Thanks for the translation and JD go get that game face back!
Leee Jaee Doong
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
January 28 2011 16:51 GMT
#60
On January 28 2011 10:07 Z3kk wrote:
So consensus is that last 4 games of JD vs Snow were very, very high quality, while Stork essentially played terribly throughout the series against Zero? :'(

So much for Stork not appearing in SPL because he wanted to practice...T_T


Totally disagree.
Stork played his ass off and came with unique ideas and preps, his play was solid and he wasn't sloppy.
Zero just played and he played *hard* A case of getting outplayed, it happens sometimes and Zero isn't exactly mediocre, he just drops games awkwardly.

That first set he simply read him like a book and the way he used units instead of overlords to scout was a really slick move IMO since Protoss have taken the skies as a form of running away with the lead.

Also, every game in the Jaedong VS Snow was something I was not expecting and was surprised beautifully. I expected a walk over by the dong and Snow showed here was a reason why he made it that far in the first place.

Man, I love this season.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
January 28 2011 17:30 GMT
#61
On January 29 2011 01:24 polgas wrote:
JD looked like he was disappointed that he actually won the series. I did feel like at parts of the game he was almost deliberately losing. Sending his drones straight into storms repeatedly? Sitting back in Game 5 while up 2 bases? No game face? This is one of the times I was really looking forward to the winners interview translation to explain what was going through his head. Now at least it explained a few of that. Thanks for the translation and JD go get that game face back!

^ Did you see when he banged his fist against his knees after game 4 while talking to his coach? He looked so dejected and so beaten I thought he would lose... That's why I'm so proud that he actually made it. It is like Yellow says, Jaedong knows how to win:
In any given circumstance, he reads them all. He's not just good at playing the game... He knows how to win the game.
What I mean by that is, he has a way to win even in the most desperate situation. He's not just GREAT at game (like the rest of the progamers), he KNOWS how to WIN the game.
From the start to finish, everything he does is to WIN the game, heck, I don't even know how to describe this!
Watching him play, upsets me.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
January 28 2011 17:38 GMT
#62
GO! GO! GO!
JAEDONG!!! JEADONG!!! JEADONG!!!
GO! GO! GO!
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 28 2011 17:44 GMT
#63
Is it just me, or does Jaedong look "happier" nowadays? Sometimes, I just wished he looked scary all the time lol.

Nice to see Jaedong's views on his sets against Snow. Those were tense, fantastic games. Watching Jaedong getting drop-harassed like crazy while simultaneously getting pushed back to his expos was a very tense experience. Glad to see him pull out a very close and well-deserved win.
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kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 28 2011 17:47 GMT
#64
On January 29 2011 02:44 eviltomahawk wrote:
Is it just me, or does Jaedong look "happier" nowadays? Sometimes, I just wished he looked scary all the time lol.
There are actually two Jaedongs, the StarCraft Jaedong and the normal Jaedong. StarCraft Jaedong is scary as shit and isn't afraid of anybody, the normal Jaedong is happy and cute as a bunny.

I like both.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
CCGaunt
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States417 Posts
January 28 2011 18:37 GMT
#65
In before JvZ wooooo.


But SNOW, SNOW
Even JD admits that Snow is good.


mmmmmmm yeah
Take me to Korea
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
January 28 2011 18:54 GMT
#66
I feel like the "Win or Die" mentality JD used to have is gone these days and he's more playing with a relaxed mentality. That's not to say JD doesn't want to win, I just feel like he's not in rage mode anymore. I mean in interviews its been hinted at that he's not feeling competitive these days, and his play has kinda been showing that. I'm glad I got to see JD show some old school competitiveness in this Bo5.

All that said, I think that JD taking a break from rage mode is a good thing right now, he looks less tired, and I think he's enjoying his wins more. GoGo JD to tie Nade :D
Jaedong and Baby
judochopaction
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States533 Posts
January 28 2011 19:05 GMT
#67
zero vs kal pls ^^ and then zero vs jaedong i guess... more zvz final yuck. hoepfully it goes to hive at least once haha
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