|
On December 25 2010 11:33 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 11:17 Seide wrote:On December 25 2010 07:21 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 06:36 Saechiis wrote:On December 25 2010 05:57 frodoguy wrote:
thanks alot, now i will study his replays to learn how to marine micro as good as him. Broodwar, dummy. BW still requires micro im sure, actually alot more micro than sc2. This way i can analyse his micro in BW and try to implement it in sc2 for marines. And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW. I'll say this in the most respectful way I can: Either you have massive problems admitting your own mistakes, or you are an idiot. Thanks for these replays, will be interesting to watch for kicks and quick entertainment. Hey you can't talk to him like that, he's probably a 2k diamond player!
Yes thank you for standing up for me, was real nice of you, and yes I am 2.1k diamond player ( your pretty accurate about my points and league even though I don't know you).
I am merely just theorycrafting about marineking's micro origins. My theory has good chance considering how other players who played Terran in bw and sc2 doesn't have near good micro as marineking. Idra played Terran in bw no jokes and now his a top Zerg. You guys are too superficial thinking that playing race x for bw will help you in sc2 for race x. Well stats show it's not like that all the time.
|
Hrm...a Pro replay pack that contains all protoss games. This is definitely something I could use. Time to install sc on my laptop and watch these replays everywhere I go! =P (I'm kidding about the "Everywhere I go" part, of course)
|
Just curious, what happened to the supposed "Optimus" tag he was going for [OptimusPrime] instead of now MarineKing?
|
On December 25 2010 12:45 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Just curious, what happened to the supposed "Optimus" tag he was going for [OptimusPrime] instead of now MarineKing?
He said that since he didn't win the GSL, that he did not want to use it since he was not the best.
|
On December 25 2010 12:33 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 11:33 seRapH wrote:On December 25 2010 11:17 Seide wrote:On December 25 2010 07:21 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 06:36 Saechiis wrote:On December 25 2010 05:57 frodoguy wrote:
thanks alot, now i will study his replays to learn how to marine micro as good as him. Broodwar, dummy. BW still requires micro im sure, actually alot more micro than sc2. This way i can analyse his micro in BW and try to implement it in sc2 for marines. And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW. I'll say this in the most respectful way I can: Either you have massive problems admitting your own mistakes, or you are an idiot. Thanks for these replays, will be interesting to watch for kicks and quick entertainment. Hey you can't talk to him like that, he's probably a 2k diamond player! Yes thank you for standing up for me, was real nice of you, and yes I am 2.1k diamond player ( your pretty accurate about my points and league even though I don't know you). I am merely just theorycrafting about marineking's micro origins. My theory has good chance considering how other players who played Terran in bw and sc2 doesn't have near good micro as marineking. Idra played Terran in bw no jokes and now his a top Zerg. You guys are too superficial thinking that playing race x for bw will help you in sc2 for race x. Well stats show it's not like that all the time.
Is English your first language? Your 2nd? your 3rd? I have trouble believing it is even top 5
Earlier you said:
"And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW."
Then you say:
"You guys are too superficial thinking that playing race x for bw will help you in sc2 for race x."
...............................
Literally, NOTHING you have said makes any sense at all, and if english is truly your first language I'm wondering how your school has failed you so triumphantly badly
User was temp banned for this post.
|
ok i typed it wrong, i did not mean that. I don't want this to end up with flaming so i will just say it straight:
1. How did MarineKing get his micro to be what it is today?
2. If he just obtained this skill after practicing sc2 long, how come the other terrans can't follow suite?
3. This is a really interesting case so should i make a thread about this?
4. Does practicing micro with any units apart from marines in BW help me micro marines better?
5. Bottom line: i want to practice to micro marines like MarineKing
|
On December 25 2010 08:46 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 08:22 .Aar wrote:On December 25 2010 07:21 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 06:36 Saechiis wrote:On December 25 2010 05:57 frodoguy wrote:
thanks alot, now i will study his replays to learn how to marine micro as good as him. Broodwar, dummy. BW still requires micro im sure, actually alot more micro than sc2. This way i can analyse his micro in BW and try to implement it in sc2 for marines. And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW. Now bear with me - this might sound crazy, but just give me a moment - maybe he learned to micro marines in SC2 by.. microing marines in SC2. OT: Thanks, these should be an interesting curiosity, but honestly I don't expect much.. But no one is as good as he is in marine micro. If they were somewhere near his micro skills, you would think they would do what marineking would do. But no, they don't because they can't even though they want to, hence his 5 kills in gisado stream.
Actually oGsTheStC have better micro than Foxer.
|
On December 25 2010 12:54 frodoguy wrote:
ok i typed it wrong, i did not mean that. I don't want this to end up with flaming so i will just say it straight:
1. How did MarineKing get his micro to be what it is today?
2. If he just obtained this skill after practicing sc2 long, how come the other terrans can't follow suite?
3. This is a really interesting case so should i make a thread about this?
4. Does practicing micro with any units apart from marines in BW help me micro marines better?
5. Bottom line: i want to practice to micro marines like MarineKing
practice
skill
no
no
too bad
All you really have to know about it.
|
On December 25 2010 13:03 whitelynx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 12:54 frodoguy wrote:
ok i typed it wrong, i did not mean that. I don't want this to end up with flaming so i will just say it straight:
1. How did MarineKing get his micro to be what it is today?
2. If he just obtained this skill after practicing sc2 long, how come the other terrans can't follow suite?
3. This is a really interesting case so should i make a thread about this?
4. Does practicing micro with any units apart from marines in BW help me micro marines better?
5. Bottom line: i want to practice to micro marines like MarineKing practice skill no no too bad All you really have to know about it.
"too bad"
Thats not very nice seeing as how you don't even know my skills and determination and passion to become a good marine micro guy. And you should put some effort into your post.
|
On December 25 2010 13:06 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 13:03 whitelynx wrote:On December 25 2010 12:54 frodoguy wrote:
ok i typed it wrong, i did not mean that. I don't want this to end up with flaming so i will just say it straight:
1. How did MarineKing get his micro to be what it is today?
2. If he just obtained this skill after practicing sc2 long, how come the other terrans can't follow suite?
3. This is a really interesting case so should i make a thread about this?
4. Does practicing micro with any units apart from marines in BW help me micro marines better?
5. Bottom line: i want to practice to micro marines like MarineKing practice skill no no too bad All you really have to know about it. "too bad" Thats not very nice seeing as how you don't even know my skills and determination and passion to become a good marine micro guy. And you should put some effort into your post.
at number 4. as IRRC BW progamers have a ton of UMS micro maps that they practice for 1 to 2 hours day to make their micro gosu
|
On December 25 2010 12:48 xxpack09 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 12:33 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 11:33 seRapH wrote:On December 25 2010 11:17 Seide wrote:On December 25 2010 07:21 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 06:36 Saechiis wrote:On December 25 2010 05:57 frodoguy wrote:
thanks alot, now i will study his replays to learn how to marine micro as good as him. Broodwar, dummy. BW still requires micro im sure, actually alot more micro than sc2. This way i can analyse his micro in BW and try to implement it in sc2 for marines. And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW. I'll say this in the most respectful way I can: Either you have massive problems admitting your own mistakes, or you are an idiot. Thanks for these replays, will be interesting to watch for kicks and quick entertainment. Hey you can't talk to him like that, he's probably a 2k diamond player! Yes thank you for standing up for me, was real nice of you, and yes I am 2.1k diamond player ( your pretty accurate about my points and league even though I don't know you). I am merely just theorycrafting about marineking's micro origins. My theory has good chance considering how other players who played Terran in bw and sc2 doesn't have near good micro as marineking. Idra played Terran in bw no jokes and now his a top Zerg. You guys are too superficial thinking that playing race x for bw will help you in sc2 for race x. Well stats show it's not like that all the time. Is English your first language? Your 2nd? your 3rd? I have trouble believing it is even top 5 Earlier you said: "And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW." Then you say: "You guys are too superficial thinking that playing race x for bw will help you in sc2 for race x." ............................... Literally, NOTHING you have said makes any sense at all, and if english is truly your first language I'm wondering how your school has failed you so triumphantly badly
Jeez, frod seems to be such an epic troll, even if it was on accident.
OT: Great find, although he wasn't exactly the top tier of pro gamers, he was a progamer nontheless. Can't wait to check these reps out.
|
On December 25 2010 13:06 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 13:03 whitelynx wrote:On December 25 2010 12:54 frodoguy wrote:
ok i typed it wrong, i did not mean that. I don't want this to end up with flaming so i will just say it straight:
1. How did MarineKing get his micro to be what it is today?
2. If he just obtained this skill after practicing sc2 long, how come the other terrans can't follow suite?
3. This is a really interesting case so should i make a thread about this?
4. Does practicing micro with any units apart from marines in BW help me micro marines better?
5. Bottom line: i want to practice to micro marines like MarineKing practice skill no no too bad All you really have to know about it. "too bad" Thats not very nice seeing as how you don't even know my skills and determination and passion to become a good marine micro guy. And you should put some effort into your post.
Oh gosh. I really meant that for #4, marines don't help with your marine micro at all either simply because no unit in the entire game behaves like marines in SC2. In BW, marine micro was more about paying attention to them and knowing when to attack and run away because macro was much harder. No point talking about SC2 at all...
|
I think people are a tad too harsh with the new kids. Argumentativeness is probably a survival mechanism on the SC2 forum. That said, this thread delivers 
Also, thanks for the replays, OP!
@frodo: BW micro, as people have pointed out, can be honed on specialized custom maps. And if you want to watch it in games, you probably want Boxer (i.e. real Boxer) replays - MnM was his thing (there are, of course, many other examples out there)
|
On December 25 2010 12:33 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 11:33 seRapH wrote:On December 25 2010 11:17 Seide wrote:On December 25 2010 07:21 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 06:36 Saechiis wrote:On December 25 2010 05:57 frodoguy wrote:
thanks alot, now i will study his replays to learn how to marine micro as good as him. Broodwar, dummy. BW still requires micro im sure, actually alot more micro than sc2. This way i can analyse his micro in BW and try to implement it in sc2 for marines. And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW. I'll say this in the most respectful way I can: Either you have massive problems admitting your own mistakes, or you are an idiot. Thanks for these replays, will be interesting to watch for kicks and quick entertainment. Hey you can't talk to him like that, he's probably a 2k diamond player! Yes thank you for standing up for me, was real nice of you, and yes I am 2.1k diamond player ( your pretty accurate about my points and league even though I don't know you). I am merely just theorycrafting about marineking's micro origins. My theory has good chance considering how other players who played Terran in bw and sc2 doesn't have near good micro as marineking. Idra played Terran in bw no jokes and now his a top Zerg. You guys are too superficial thinking that playing race x for bw will help you in sc2 for race x. Well stats show it's not like that all the time.
Is 2k diamond....a big deal?
And I'm pretty sure terrans micro just as hard as zergs do in bw. Their units are fragile as hell. It's protoss that usually don't require the intense micro. Just putting it out there.
|
On December 25 2010 14:11 MageKirby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 12:33 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 11:33 seRapH wrote:On December 25 2010 11:17 Seide wrote:On December 25 2010 07:21 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 06:36 Saechiis wrote:On December 25 2010 05:57 frodoguy wrote:
thanks alot, now i will study his replays to learn how to marine micro as good as him. Broodwar, dummy. BW still requires micro im sure, actually alot more micro than sc2. This way i can analyse his micro in BW and try to implement it in sc2 for marines. And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW. I'll say this in the most respectful way I can: Either you have massive problems admitting your own mistakes, or you are an idiot. Thanks for these replays, will be interesting to watch for kicks and quick entertainment. Hey you can't talk to him like that, he's probably a 2k diamond player! Yes thank you for standing up for me, was real nice of you, and yes I am 2.1k diamond player ( your pretty accurate about my points and league even though I don't know you). I am merely just theorycrafting about marineking's micro origins. My theory has good chance considering how other players who played Terran in bw and sc2 doesn't have near good micro as marineking. Idra played Terran in bw no jokes and now his a top Zerg. You guys are too superficial thinking that playing race x for bw will help you in sc2 for race x. Well stats show it's not like that all the time. Is 2k diamond....a big deal? And I'm pretty sure terrans micro just as hard as zergs do in bw. Their units are fragile as hell. It's protoss that usually don't require the intense micro. Just putting it out there.
No, 2.1 k means you're not so terrible that people can spit on you, but not even approaching good yet. It is the very definition of a mediocre player currently. 2.1k diamond here.
[B]It's protoss that usually don't require the intense micro. Just putting it out there.
Yup, toss units are the ones that dont require micro, definitely.
Maybe upto gold league dude. At the highest level, protoss benefits the most from proper unit micro (especially FF)
|
On December 25 2010 13:06 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 13:03 whitelynx wrote:On December 25 2010 12:54 frodoguy wrote:
ok i typed it wrong, i did not mean that. I don't want this to end up with flaming so i will just say it straight:
1. How did MarineKing get his micro to be what it is today?
2. If he just obtained this skill after practicing sc2 long, how come the other terrans can't follow suite?
3. This is a really interesting case so should i make a thread about this?
4. Does practicing micro with any units apart from marines in BW help me micro marines better?
5. Bottom line: i want to practice to micro marines like MarineKing practice skill no no too bad All you really have to know about it. "too bad" Thats not very nice seeing as how you don't even know my skills and determination and passion to become a good marine micro guy. And you should put some effort into your post.
If you want to get better at microing your marines, go practice microing your marines. It is the best way to get better at it.
anyway, I'm pretty sure he also used the id Rex.IU for a while.
|
On December 25 2010 07:21 frodoguy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 06:36 Saechiis wrote:On December 25 2010 05:57 frodoguy wrote:
thanks alot, now i will study his replays to learn how to marine micro as good as him. Broodwar, dummy. BW still requires micro im sure, actually alot more micro than sc2. This way i can analyse his micro in BW and try to implement it in sc2 for marines. And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW.
Didn't know it was that easy to micro marines in SC2 (didn't play much, sorry)
|
On December 25 2010 15:15 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2010 14:11 MageKirby wrote:On December 25 2010 12:33 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 11:33 seRapH wrote:On December 25 2010 11:17 Seide wrote:On December 25 2010 07:21 frodoguy wrote:On December 25 2010 06:36 Saechiis wrote:On December 25 2010 05:57 frodoguy wrote:
thanks alot, now i will study his replays to learn how to marine micro as good as him. Broodwar, dummy. BW still requires micro im sure, actually alot more micro than sc2. This way i can analyse his micro in BW and try to implement it in sc2 for marines. And Yes, he did play protoss in BW, which leads to the conclusion that he learned to micro marines in sc2 from playing protoss in BW. I'll say this in the most respectful way I can: Either you have massive problems admitting your own mistakes, or you are an idiot. Thanks for these replays, will be interesting to watch for kicks and quick entertainment. Hey you can't talk to him like that, he's probably a 2k diamond player! Yes thank you for standing up for me, was real nice of you, and yes I am 2.1k diamond player ( your pretty accurate about my points and league even though I don't know you). I am merely just theorycrafting about marineking's micro origins. My theory has good chance considering how other players who played Terran in bw and sc2 doesn't have near good micro as marineking. Idra played Terran in bw no jokes and now his a top Zerg. You guys are too superficial thinking that playing race x for bw will help you in sc2 for race x. Well stats show it's not like that all the time. Is 2k diamond....a big deal? And I'm pretty sure terrans micro just as hard as zergs do in bw. Their units are fragile as hell. It's protoss that usually don't require the intense micro. Just putting it out there. No, 2.1 k means you're not so terrible that people can spit on you, but not even approaching good yet. It is the very definition of a mediocre player currently. 2.1k diamond here. Show nested quote +[B]It's protoss that usually don't require the intense micro. Just putting it out there.
Yup, toss units are the ones that dont require micro, definitely. Maybe upto gold league dude. At the highest level, protoss benefits the most from proper unit micro (especially FF)
He was refering to BW in the sense that Protoss doesn't require much micro to do well.
|
-_- ugh...
This is really cool, and I'll be DL-ing this later when I have more time, but some of the replies in this thread make my head hurt.
|
gimmicky just like his sc2 play
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
