EPTLet the fun begin. Activision Blizzard suing MBC - Page 3
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Meriones
43 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7500 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:44 StatiC)Ex( wrote: I'm laughing at the people who think the death of BW, will be the death of E-sports. Unless Blizzard goes on and sponsors the players in GSL, e-Sport is over. And Koreans progamers will probably lose all their jobs and thousands of people will lose jobs. Korea will probably ban all Blizzard's product this way. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3629 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:47 Meriones wrote: Korean BW leagues gave Blizzard 250 million of game sales. That's half of all the sales they made. It is this free advertising they are sueing now. One in every 10 Koreans owns a copy of SC BW. But Koreans pirate too much, so they get sued.. Those game sales barely mean anything when they have WoW profits, what Blizzard really wants is a chunk of the E-Sports scene. | ||
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Zona
40425 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:46 Hrrrrm wrote: I could understand this argument but, then again before SC2, Korean BW leagues really didn't affect Blizzard's revenue. With the release of SC2 sadly now broadcasting of Proleague DIRECTLY affects viewers watching GSL for example. If the people watching Proleague would watch GSL is another argument but, now you basically have one companies products directly competing against each other. While Blizzard could deal with that if they were getting money from BW, since they aren't, they feel their only option is to stop the broadcasting. I don't blame them and we'll see the fallout. Except one of the main reasons why sponsors see potential in SC2 is because of Korean BW success? If the BW scene is prematurely destroyed, then people involved in the SC2 scene need to really take some time to consider what Blizzard will do once it feels it cannot profit from SC2 anymore. Especially since Blizzard won't need to go through the slow court process to shut down SC2. | ||
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Noxide
United States2763 Posts
So many misinformed people it's not even funny. Liquibetting MBC on this one. | ||
Antoine
United States7357 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:46 syllogism wrote: On PlayXP they seem to be hoping that Kespa dies Also, ahaha so many korean legal experts here playxp is definitely in my experience more sc2-focused so that's not very surprising tbh | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
MBC fighting. | ||
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BigBadSkathe
United States234 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:46 syllogism wrote: On PlayXP they seem to be hoping that Kespa dies I feel like this is the general consensus even on TL among people who don't just blindly hate Blizzard because they're owned by Activision or w/e. If this lawsuit leads to the downfall of KeSPA I'm all for it. BW can and will survive without them. Every time a new detail comes out about KeSPA's actions it just makes them look less and less professional, and more and more like slime ball capitalists who could care less about the hard work that was put into making the game they make their living off of. Sure they did a lot for esports at a time when Korea needed a distraction, but a little humility would go a long way. Without Blizzard, BW wouldn't exist, and somehow they want to pretend they don't owe their livelihoods to that company. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1734 Posts
 edit: oh wait it's ACTIVISION Blizzard | ||
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carebear91
Singapore225 Posts
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leakingpear
United Kingdom302 Posts
That said FUCK BLIZZARD THEY ATE MY CHILDREN WHILE KESPA RAPED MY EAR | ||
mustaju
Estonia4431 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:49 Zona wrote: Except one of the main reasons why sponsors see potential in SC2 is because of Korean BW success? If the BW scene is prematurely destroyed, then people involved in the SC2 scene need to really take some time to consider what Blizzard will do once it feels it cannot profit from SC2 anymore. Especially since Blizzard won't need to go through the slow court process to shut down SC2. Seeing the mindless agreement of the majority of SC2 fans to whatever Blizzard is doing (except for balance and chat channels, of course), I don't see that as a surfacing concern until it is too late. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7500 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:53 BigBadSkathe wrote: I feel like this is the general consensus even on TL among people who don't just blindly hate Blizzard because they're owned by Activision or w/e. If this lawsuit leads to the downfall of KeSPA I'm all for it. BW can and will survive without them. Every time a new detail comes out about KeSPA's actions it just makes them look less and less professional, and more and more like slime ball capitalists who could care less about the hard work that was put into making the game they make their living off of. Sure they did a lot for esports at a time when Korea needed a distraction, but a little humility would go a long way. Without Blizzard, BW wouldn't exist, and somehow they want to pretend they don't owe their livelihoods to that company. If Kespa dies, BW DEFINITELY CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT IT! | ||
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:41 wishbones wrote: with 2 weeks worth of profit from wow, they will win the trial. lol Wow, you're an idiot. Go look up the word "Chaebol." Then, go look up how many of them sponsor Proleague teams. "WoW profits" aint shit. | ||
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Meriones
43 Posts
Now they are world leaders in esports thanks to their government, corporations and professional teams. They together form Kespa. We have laughed and ridiculed Blizzard and WCG all these years for being clueless how to run a tournament. We even laughed at Gretech and their money begging. But now suddenly Kespa is unprofessional? People need to get a grip. And all this time the only real bad thing Kespa has ever done was enforce a rule that wasn't a very good one. But hey, if you have it, you need to enforce it. And it was changed right away. Yeah, what a failure Kespa is. Also, there's no money in esports. Only advertising. And Blizzard got the best advertising but now they are ruining it by the backlash they will get from this case. | ||
infinitestory
United States3708 Posts
To those saying Blizzard is autowin ezmode because it's their game, the crux of the case (to my knowledge, which may be incomplete) isn't who owns the game. It's who owns the matches played on the game. Blizz and Kespa are fighting over the right to broadcast the matches played, not ownership of the software. Kespa does have a very legitimate argument that broadcasting should be free, namely that the games are the creative work of the players and that Starcraft is just a medium for expression. Or so I think. On October 23 2010 09:44 StatiC)Ex( wrote: I'm laughing at the people who think the death of BW, will be the death of E-sports. I'm laughing at the people who think SC2 is completely ready to take over from BW. BW is the first eSport that has truly taken hold in a culture and become accepted. Right now, SC2 might be big in Korea, but it's not yet ubiquitous. At the moment, if BW dies, then eSports will suffer greatly. | ||
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xxpack09
United States1978 Posts
MBC FIGHTINGGG | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5902 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:59 infinitestory wrote: i read the neoGAF forums (where the OP got the article), and wow they are all for Blizzard and GOM and yet they don't want the individual leagues to go. i'm glad TL is a bastion of logic To those saying Blizzard is autowin ezmode because it's their game, the crux of the case (to my knowledge, which may be incomplete) isn't who owns the game. It's who owns the matches played on the game. Blizz and Kespa are fighting over the right to broadcast the matches played, not ownership of the software. Kespa does have a very legitimate argument that broadcasting should be free, namely that the games are the creative work of the players and that Starcraft is just a medium for expression. Or so I think. I'm laughing at the people who think SC2 is completely ready to take over from BW. BW is the first eSport that has truly taken hold in a culture and become accepted. Right now, SC2 might be big in Korea, but it's not yet ubiquitous. At the moment, if BW dies, then eSports will suffer greatly. It'd be interesting what the results of this case will do to WIPO and international law. | ||
Spazer
Canada7958 Posts
On October 23 2010 09:40 StatiC)Ex( wrote: Funny thing is, blizzard will probably win. I wouldn't be so sure. International IP isn't that cut and dry, and this case in particular is pretty iffy. I mean, yeah, Blizzard made the game, but does that mean they have ownership of the esport itself? Bear in mind that they've also let BW broadcast on TV for years. They've had plenty of time to make their move. This case could go either way, imo. Still sucks though. On October 23 2010 09:44 StatiC)Ex( wrote: I'm laughing at the people who think the death of BW, will be the death of E-sports. BW is the only game being broadcast on TV right now. Everything else is small fries in comparison. The death of BW might not mean the end of esports as a whole, but it'll sure be a damn big blow. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2006 Posts
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