Stop Worrying! - Page 3

On September 27 2010 12:40 zenMaster wrote:

Or just FBH's hip thrusts.
Honesty, just wait a month for the start of the new Proleague season, it will be epic awesomeness.

On September 27 2010 12:14 dukethegold wrote:
I say the lack of innovation and competition would kill the brood war scene. There are very few innovators left in pro-gaming scene and most just play standard - which is boring. There are only couple leaders, like Fantasy and Zero, and the rest are all imitators. The new generation of players are simply encouraged to follow the footsteps of the old without being encouraged to create new. Players are too concerned with winning and too afraid of losing to try anything new or be concerned with the desires of the fans.

Like Jaedong and Nada said, the skill gap between progamers are actually pretty close, so they do not dare to do anything creative/risky in fear of losses. The fans aren't helping either. They expect their champions to win against xxx or it's matchfixing rumor mill. If their champion does something gimmicky and loses, negative pressure would be exerted that cause the affected player to lose motivation in innovation. It's a vicious cycle.

For example, Fantasy. He is pretty much the ONLY player remaining in the scene who tries new stuff every other match. Look at all the hate he is getting from TL, for both victory and defeat.

Oh, and of course, it's basically Flash v.s. Jaedong fest right now. Without variation, it simply isn't entertaining.

I am pretty damn sure that the current e-sport scene is not gaining viewership, but rather steadily losing it. If you look at the current trend, most of those who attend a SC live-event are all teens or early 20s. For GSL, it's pretty much all young guys (not even girls). If you look back at the old vods, the age of Boxer and Nada, their fanbase is composed of fans of various generations and ages.

So yeah, I think it's dying.

What e-sport NEEDS is a leader, someone who truly shines, outspoken, charismatic, able to unite all e-sport fans and attract new fans across the generations by reaching out to the mainstream like Boxer once did. We need somebody with Flash's mentality, Stork's personality, Fantasy's creativity, and Bisu's face.

On September 27 2010 23:34 Gustav_Wind wrote:


I think we see as much innovation as much as we can realistically see. Besides the visibly innovative strategies that we often see from Fantasy (and also from Flash!), there are also lots of smaller tweaks and refinements that aren't as obvious.

No game is deep enough so that a new strategy can be developed almost every game and be better than the existing strategies. I hope you realize the work involved in developing and refining a brand new strategy and how random proleague games/prelims are not worth it.

In the later rounds of starleagues it's quite common to see innovation/heavily strategic play. I would argue this usually makes the series a lot less fun to watch.

On September 27 2010 16:04 Mortality wrote:
BW likely is dying, but many people wrongly assume that the death is here and now. It doesn't have to be and it probably won't be.

BW is dying because strategically the game is too thoroughly mapped out to invoke the same level of enjoyment that it did years ago, hence the gradual decline in popularity. We will likely never see the same level of popularity that we once did.

But who has left the progaming scene? Mostly older gamers who have been finding it difficult to compete due to changes in how the game is played and overall improvements in mechanics (guys like NaDa and July used to be considered blazing fast, but in today's gaming scene there are B-teamers who are notably faster), and also guys who couldn't make it -- guys like MVP who realized that they would never make a Starleague final.

I've seen a stream of names of retirements, but really, the only major upset in all of this was the loss of Effort. And I do realize that eStro is likely to disappear and that Woonjin was gutted, but let's face it: this isn't the first time eStro has been on the brink of getting disbanded and what Woonjin lost was it's string of snipers and back-ups, not the core line-up (yes, Kwanro left to SKT1, but Kwanro hasn't been performing very well for Woonjin).

The only thing that really worries me is the KeSPA/Gretech issue. But barring complications from that, I'd expect SC to continue having televised events for a few more years. Even if SC2 is capable of replacing SC, it will take a while before it develops to the point where it can fill daddy's shoes.

On September 28 2010 05:27 CurLy[] wrote:
SC2 is a pretty good game guys :D

On September 27 2010 22:39 ShadeR wrote:
Isn't it a pity that we'll have to settle with SC2....