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On June 21 2004 18:55 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:


Also a HUGE SHUT THE FUCK UP goes to the people who say he was using the goons to kill the turret because of scouts or dts. First of all, when the four goons were UNDER the barracks, Kingdom didn't even HAVE scouts, hell he probably didn't even warp his Stargate halfway by then.

On June 21 2004 20:33 Milzo wrote:


Hum, no. Just after the "battle of the four goons", focus changes to Kingdom's base, and we can see a fully completed Stargate with a Scout on top of it, + another one being researched (8'30" in the VOD).

I think that Kingdom had a quick decision to make, it's that simple. Maybe he could have entered Control's base but he backed off seeing a dozen SCVs ready to pwn the four goons' asses with the support of a fresh tank just popping out of the factory closest to the wall-in. I don't think that Kingdom would have dealt much damage with these four goons, and an additionnal force of five goons was indeed "on the way" but still far from Control's base. Kingdom's decision seems all the more reasonable since he had invested a lot of money in Stargate+Scouts, so he needed to keep his units alive, in order to keep delaying Control's expansion and macro (he's late on his expanding and knows he has to warp in two expansions and make a lot of probes in the next few minutes).

Kingdom lost because he didn't research speed for his zealots / didn't have enough zealots when Control pushed, not because he didn't try to push his advantage with those four goons.

I rest my case.

On June 21 2004 18:55 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:
First of all, sorry to Chobopeon, I wasn't really informed previously on Mensrea identification attempts.

Second of all, wow I just want to say stfu plz to all the people who were talking about those other games. Those were definitely not * helped * [ I'm going to avoid using the word rigged here ] I've watched those games and they were all reasonable mistakes.

Also a HUGE SHUT THE FUCK UP goes to the people who say he was using the goons to kill the turret because of scouts or dts. First of all, when the four goons were UNDER the barracks, Kingdom didn't even HAVE scouts, hell he probably didn't even warp his Stargate halfway by then.

I'm telling you if you fucking watch it and have a open mind you will see that it's FUCKING suspicious for him to move 4 goons away from victory. The SCOUTS if you were fucking watching and not saying, omfg bullshit no rigging, came AFTER the initial block harass. They heleped prevent Control from expanding to his nat.

Rebanned, your post was so fucking stupid, here it is.

Alright, He goes Scouts and Dts... So everyone is freaking out over him killing a TURRET? Hmm it would seem to me that turrets are a pain in the ass against both of those things.

Woot

Um, wtf you moron. Did you even watch the VOD? The dts came during the last 2-3 minutes of the game in a desparate attempt by Kingdom to save himself. Control was halfway up the fucking map. The turret that I was talking about before was the one Control built at his BLOCK I.E. ENTRANCE when the only attacking units on the map were tanks and goons.

On June 21 2004 05:12 hasuwar wrote:
What do you guys think, Kingdom is going to be laughing or something at the end, if they rigged the game?

On June 21 2004 21:35 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:

It's funny how you know what he was thinking.

There is no excuse that you can come up with that will make me change my thoughts on the 4 goon situation.

As you said, the first scout was finished, I admit that. But what you failed to see was that with 4 goons under a barracks vs a tank with only 4 scvs CLOSE enough to start repairing it [ The other 6-8 scvs being a little behind, still well in Control's base ]

If he really needed to kill the turret, because of his coming ' Scout ' the 5 dragoons that you say you saw COMING were way ahead of the scout, and as well all know dragoons are much faster than scouts. Kingdom easily could have destroyed the turret in time for the scout to come and ' Harass '. The four goons under the barrack by then would've targted the tank only, killing it, losing a maximum of 2-3 goons, still leaving AT LEAST one under the barrack, then soon after the 5 goons destroy the turret, they would come and relieve any more opposition at Controls entrance, The scout[s], then without any turret problems could go freely.

That is what I would have done, and I gurantee you it would've worked. I'm not going to sit here and type like you and 4 others who think you know how Kingdom thought/played.