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SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
August 28 2010 14:32 GMT
#41
On August 28 2010 23:27 ShcShc wrote:
On a random note: I don't think 180M won would equal 150k U.S$ because things in Korea is cheaper than U.S (in terms of cost of living). 180M won feels like 180K U.S$.

Isn't the opposite?

At least I thought Seoul was supposed to be one of the most expensive cities in the world, and it's a pretty small country, so it seems unlikely to vary drastically across the nation.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 28 2010 14:35 GMT
#42
Wow, all of Flash's wins were just retarded and abusing Zerg's lack of scouting info vs Terran. 2 Timing pushes and goddamn gay 14CC win the last game. Even he admitted Jaedong outplayed him in the one game that actually came down to raw skill. Flash I love you and you're still my favorite player, but blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
August 28 2010 14:41 GMT
#43
On August 28 2010 23:35 SubtleArt wrote:
Wow, all of Flash's wins were just retarded and abusing Zerg's lack of scouting info vs Terran.

i believe that is called strategy no? ._.
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
oN_Silva
Profile Joined October 2009
197 Posts
August 28 2010 14:50 GMT
#44
jaedong is the only person my gf could cheat with and i would understand xD
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3126 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 14:57:46
August 28 2010 14:57 GMT
#45
Man, as much as I love Flash and Jaedong...I really hope Stork or free (preferably Stork) manages to break through in the OSL. Do we really need another season of dual Flash/Jaedong finals?

But, of course, congratulations to Flash and well-played, Jaedong! If it wasn't obvious before, then now it is that Flash is THE best player of this generation.
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nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
August 28 2010 15:01 GMT
#46
Go Flash!

thanks for the translation.
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
August 28 2010 15:05 GMT
#47
Will this end the discussion of Flash > Jaedong, at least in T v Z? lol...
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Bair
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
August 28 2010 15:21 GMT
#48
<3 Jaedong

I will always believe in you! This was just a setback
In Roaches I Rust.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 15:26:15
August 28 2010 15:25 GMT
#49
On August 28 2010 23:41 Katsuge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 23:35 SubtleArt wrote:
Wow, all of Flash's wins were just retarded and abusing Zerg's lack of scouting info vs Terran.

i believe that is called strategy no? ._.


I believe it is too, but as a fan of Flash and as somebody who wants to see good games, I really wish he didn't do something that abuses an inherent weakness (dare I say....imbalance?) in ZvT, and something that doesn't rely on actual skill as much.

Man, this rivalry reminds me of Federer vs Nadal. If one of them didn't exist, the other would comfortably sweep all leagues for a long time.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
August 28 2010 15:37 GMT
#50
On August 29 2010 00:25 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 23:41 Katsuge wrote:
On August 28 2010 23:35 SubtleArt wrote:
Wow, all of Flash's wins were just retarded and abusing Zerg's lack of scouting info vs Terran.

i believe that is called strategy no? ._.


I believe it is too, but as a fan of Flash and as somebody who wants to see good games, I really wish he didn't do something that abuses an inherent weakness (dare I say....imbalance?) in ZvT, and something that doesn't rely on actual skill as much.



what did he abuse, silly man?
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 28 2010 15:42 GMT
#51
On August 29 2010 00:25 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 23:41 Katsuge wrote:
On August 28 2010 23:35 SubtleArt wrote:
Wow, all of Flash's wins were just retarded and abusing Zerg's lack of scouting info vs Terran.

i believe that is called strategy no? ._.


I believe it is too, but as a fan of Flash and as somebody who wants to see good games, I really wish he didn't do something that abuses an inherent weakness (dare I say....imbalance?) in ZvT, and something that doesn't rely on actual skill as much.

Man, this rivalry reminds me of Federer vs Nadal. If one of them didn't exist, the other would comfortably sweep all leagues for a long time.

I believe game 5 was the so called "mind fuck".
Flash recently (didnt see game one so i dont know,) but JD's build was intended to SMASH a mech build on PR. Flash's build was a old and well known strat named 4 raxx +1 play. Later flash added it to 7 raxx i believe with tank and vessel support.
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Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
August 28 2010 15:43 GMT
#52
On August 29 2010 00:37 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:what did he abuse, silly man?


He's (I think) referring to the disparity in ability to scout / prevent scouting, where the Zerg player is unable to make his way into the Terran base to see a tech switch or prepare for a weird timing push, while the Terran player has an easier time making that initial scout and continuing to be aware of changes in tech through that early game period.

I don't know how accurate this is, or whether this is just an issue with certain maps, and not an issue inherent to the match-up (it being a map dependent problem would make sense to me, at least) but I think it is what he meant.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
August 28 2010 15:47 GMT
#53
On August 29 2010 00:25 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 23:41 Katsuge wrote:
On August 28 2010 23:35 SubtleArt wrote:
Wow, all of Flash's wins were just retarded and abusing Zerg's lack of scouting info vs Terran.

i believe that is called strategy no? ._.


I believe it is too, but as a fan of Flash and as somebody who wants to see good games, I really wish he didn't do something that abuses an inherent weakness (dare I say....imbalance?) in ZvT, and something that doesn't rely on actual skill as much.

Man, this rivalry reminds me of Federer vs Nadal. If one of them didn't exist, the other would comfortably sweep all leagues for a long time.


Games 3 and 5 were quite good. And Flash wasn't "abusing" some inherent imbalance, just as Jaedong wasn't on Triathlon when he went mass lings. They just predicted/scouted greedy play by their opponents and reacted accordingly.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
August 28 2010 15:47 GMT
#54
On August 28 2010 23:50 oN_Silva wrote:
jaedong is the only person my gf could cheat with and i would understand xD
Haha I know what you mean!

Aww he sounded so magnanimous in the interview! "I wanted to be the first to greet him afterwards for a good game but after seeing how disappointed he was, I couldn’t approach him." So adorable...
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
August 28 2010 15:49 GMT
#55
Nice shoes, Flash!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 28 2010 15:51 GMT
#56
Fervor for LeeSsangRok has DROPPED? What? That's insane.

Thanks for translation.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
August 28 2010 16:17 GMT
#57
His parents must be really happy.
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
August 28 2010 17:20 GMT
#58
On August 29 2010 00:25 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 23:41 Katsuge wrote:
On August 28 2010 23:35 SubtleArt wrote:
Wow, all of Flash's wins were just retarded and abusing Zerg's lack of scouting info vs Terran.

i believe that is called strategy no? ._.


I believe it is too, but as a fan of Flash and as somebody who wants to see good games, I really wish he didn't do something that abuses an inherent weakness (dare I say....imbalance?) in ZvT, and something that doesn't rely on actual skill as much.

Man, this rivalry reminds me of Federer vs Nadal. If one of them didn't exist, the other would comfortably sweep all leagues for a long time.

what the...??? When the hell did bio + tank + vessel (standard TvZ) = "not rely on actual skill"???
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 28 2010 18:02 GMT
#59
On August 29 2010 02:20 Wings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 00:25 SubtleArt wrote:
On August 28 2010 23:41 Katsuge wrote:
On August 28 2010 23:35 SubtleArt wrote:
Wow, all of Flash's wins were just retarded and abusing Zerg's lack of scouting info vs Terran.

i believe that is called strategy no? ._.


I believe it is too, but as a fan of Flash and as somebody who wants to see good games, I really wish he didn't do something that abuses an inherent weakness (dare I say....imbalance?) in ZvT, and something that doesn't rely on actual skill as much.

Man, this rivalry reminds me of Federer vs Nadal. If one of them didn't exist, the other would comfortably sweep all leagues for a long time.

what the...??? When the hell did bio + tank + vessel (standard TvZ) = "not rely on actual skill"???


I'm talking about 2 all in timing pushes (which are not "actual skill", im sorry), and riding a 14CC advantage
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 28 2010 18:04 GMT
#60
Btw, is there a jaedong interview? I really wanna hear wat he had to say about it (and 14CC). If not, guess we'll just have to wait for a winners interview after he tears stork a new asshole
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
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