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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 19 2010 11:00 GMT
#61
Bisu sucks now .. Bisu was good back then .. just like all the other 'bonjwa' before him ..

whats there to argue?? stop hating the player .. hate the fans

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I STILL BELIEVE! HATERS/NONBELIEVERS MUST DIE!
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Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
August 19 2010 11:48 GMT
#62
On August 19 2010 18:48 Metalwing wrote:
Actually, unlike ZvZ and TvT, PvPs can measure protosses really well. And let's check out (P)Bisu:

[snip]

This is enough to explain that (P)Bisu is in a slump.


If PvP is that good a measure of Protossness, then does this make (P)Shuttle and (P)Horang2 top-tier toss?

Also, (P)Bisu's PvP ELO is still fourth after (P)Kal, (P)Shuttle and (P)Horang2. Maybe what you mean is that (P)Bisu slumping seems to be only slightly better than most other protosses playing normally.

kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
August 19 2010 11:54 GMT
#63
So what you're saying is you can predict the future from the past.

Are you rich yet?
Like a G6
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
August 19 2010 12:00 GMT
#64
On August 19 2010 16:10 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 16:00 nttea wrote:
Bye bye bisu! will miss you but not your fans <3.

Do you realize how annoying it is to be a protoss fan?
(ranting)
/end rant.

I hate being a protoss fan sometimes, and I completely agree with you, people hate on the protoss stars a lot more than is necessary. I mean, Bisu AND Stork are on a downhill slide, and who's left to keep the newbie 'tosses even with the big boys in matchup evolutions? Kal? free? Mmmph.
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DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
August 19 2010 12:21 GMT
#65
Maybe the statistics isn't on his side, but the fans are.
We will witness the rise of Bisu!
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 19 2010 12:30 GMT
#66
On August 19 2010 21:00 hp.Shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 16:10 Lightwip wrote:
On August 19 2010 16:00 nttea wrote:
Bye bye bisu! will miss you but not your fans <3.

Do you realize how annoying it is to be a protoss fan?
(ranting)
/end rant.

I hate being a protoss fan sometimes, and I completely agree with you, people hate on the protoss stars a lot more than is necessary. I mean, Bisu AND Stork are on a downhill slide, and who's left to keep the newbie 'tosses even with the big boys in matchup evolutions? Kal? free? Mmmph.

Stork is gonna win this osl =]
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
August 19 2010 12:38 GMT
#67
On August 19 2010 20:48 Aim Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 18:48 Metalwing wrote:
Actually, unlike ZvZ and TvT, PvPs can measure protosses really well. And let's check out (P)Bisu:

[snip]

This is enough to explain that (P)Bisu is in a slump.


If PvP is that good a measure of Protossness, then does this make (P)Shuttle and (P)Horang2 top-tier toss?

Also, (P)Bisu's PvP ELO is still fourth after (P)Kal, (P)Shuttle and (P)Horang2. Maybe what you mean is that (P)Bisu slumping seems to be only slightly better than most other protosses playing normally.



Nope, but when (P)Bisu was on his peak, his PvP record was much better than (P)Kal, (P)Horang2 and (P)Shuttle.

But mostly when a protoss player is hot or not, his PvPs act in the same way. Unlike ZvZ and TvT.
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Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
August 19 2010 12:43 GMT
#68
Man, I've always loved Bisu for providing the comedy moment that was game 5 of the GOM special match.
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 19 2010 12:54 GMT
#69
So your premise is he sucks because he's slumping badly? That just means he's slumping badly, not that he'll never come back..

Btw I'm really curious to see a comparison of Savior's ELOs when he was at his peak and during his slump
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 19 2010 13:29 GMT
#70
Tell me ANY player that does play better PvZ than Kim Taek Yong right now.
Yes, Bisu is slumping and even most fanboys will admit that - his undefeatable PvP which was like 6 months ago is gone - and PvT never was his biggest strenght except winning Flash a few times due to being able to spot the holes in his play.

But your comparison doesn't make any sense at all since Bisu has the 3rd highest elo peak ever - guess what, he was even down to less than 2100 pts - means despite not being a Top10 player right now he's by no means a bad player.
Also you call ForGG hotter since he is closer to his - way worse - ELO peak than Bisu, but Bisu having a higher current elo.
Yes, ForGG >>>> Bisu.
Less > more.
Same with "soulkey" etc etc, yes they're up and comers but in YOUR book someone with 2050 elo high and 2050 elo current would be the "hottest player in the world right now" even if he only 3-0'ed Frozen to do so...
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
August 19 2010 14:00 GMT
#71
On August 19 2010 22:29 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Tell me ANY player that does play better PvZ than Kim Taek Yong right now.
Yes, Bisu is slumping and even most fanboys will admit that - his undefeatable PvP which was like 6 months ago is gone - and PvT never was his biggest strenght except winning Flash a few times due to being able to spot the holes in his play.

But your comparison doesn't make any sense at all since Bisu has the 3rd highest elo peak ever - guess what, he was even down to less than 2100 pts - means despite not being a Top10 player right now he's by no means a bad player.
Also you call ForGG hotter since he is closer to his - way worse - ELO peak than Bisu, but Bisu having a higher current elo.
Yes, ForGG >>>> Bisu.
Less > more.
Same with "soulkey" etc etc, yes they're up and comers but in YOUR book someone with 2050 elo high and 2050 elo current would be the "hottest player in the world right now" even if he only 3-0'ed Frozen to do so...


Those are exactly my thoughts, Bisu's peak is higher than Jaedong's, and how many players can consistently play at a higher level than Jaedong? One.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 19 2010 14:47 GMT
#72
On August 19 2010 15:53 Roffles wrote:
Yet another reason why Bisu has fallen from his mantle as the King Acorn.

I pointed this out months ago, but no one would believe me. The truth does hurt, doesn't it?

Long gone. Cya Kim Taek Yong.


I had the same feeling. Was hoping he was back after his vacation but nope... He's done.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
August 19 2010 15:25 GMT
#73
Bisu is the bestest progamer ever to play SC:BW. What Flash and his fans have in common is that they are all virgin
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
trevabob
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom350 Posts
August 19 2010 15:42 GMT
#74
I read the title and assumed the post was about how attractive bisu was and was about to come and flame you for it.
Given it's actually about performance... fair enough :p
Ocular
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada141 Posts
August 19 2010 15:52 GMT
#75
I don't know who's nuts your on but I suggest you get off asap.
What has Bisu done to you? Cause your whining about him like he stole your favourite teddy bear.
Instead of bitching about a toss who forever changed the gameplay of sc you should go cry more about how you have no friends and reasons like this are more then likely the reason for which.

Lol I'm only playing.
But on a serious note no matter how hard he's slumping or whether he's back or not he was still a toss innovator and inspiration and people only remember players in their peak regardless. And bisu's peak was quite noteworthy.
In the land of make believe you are mine, in the land of make believe I'm doing fine...
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 19 2010 16:07 GMT
#76
Yeah, but Bisu is still great looking. I'm a guy, not gay, and i will admit that Bisu looks very attractive.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 19 2010 16:08 GMT
#77
On August 19 2010 15:53 Roffles wrote:
Yet another reason why Bisu has fallen from his mantle as the King Acorn.

I pointed this out months ago, but no one would believe me. The truth does hurt, doesn't it?

Only if you're a Bisu fanboy. Me, I'm just happy BeSt is on the rise again :D
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prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
August 19 2010 16:18 GMT
#78
It's not bisu... it's the horrible maps
( ・´ー・`)
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 19 2010 17:18 GMT
#79
On August 20 2010 01:18 prototype. wrote:
It's not bisu... it's the horrible maps

For Bisu haha. Even some of the Protoss favored maps, like Match Point, Bisu doesn't do very well on. They just don't work for Bisu's style. They'll need super harass friendly maps like Destination and Medusa again for Bisu lol..
Writerptrk
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 19 2010 18:25 GMT
#80
Why do people get annoyed with Bisu fans? They like the guy and cheer for him, what pissed you off about that?
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
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