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Who's hot? Bisu's not. - Page 4
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On August 19 2010 18:48 Metalwing wrote: Actually, unlike ZvZ and TvT, PvPs can measure protosses really well. And let's check out  Bisu:[snip] This is enough to explain that Bisu is in a slump.If PvP is that good a measure of Protossness, then does this make Shuttle and Horang2 top-tier toss?Also, Bisu's PvP ELO is still fourth after Kal, Shuttle and Horang2. Maybe what you mean is that Bisu slumping seems to be only slightly better than most other protosses playing normally. | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
Are you rich yet? | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
On August 19 2010 16:10 Lightwip wrote: Do you realize how annoying it is to be a protoss fan? (ranting) /end rant. I hate being a protoss fan sometimes, and I completely agree with you, people hate on the protoss stars a lot more than is necessary. I mean, Bisu AND Stork are on a downhill slide, and who's left to keep the newbie 'tosses even with the big boys in matchup evolutions? Kal? free? Mmmph.  | ||
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DemiSe
883 Posts
We will witness the rise of Bisu! | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On August 19 2010 21:00 hp.Shell wrote: I hate being a protoss fan sometimes, and I completely agree with you, people hate on the protoss stars a lot more than is necessary. I mean, Bisu AND Stork are on a downhill slide, and who's left to keep the newbie 'tosses even with the big boys in matchup evolutions? Kal? free? Mmmph. Stork is gonna win this osl =] | ||
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Metalwing
Turkey1038 Posts
On August 19 2010 20:48 Aim Here wrote: If PvP is that good a measure of Protossness, then does this make Shuttle and Horang2 top-tier toss?Also, Bisu's PvP ELO is still fourth after Kal, Shuttle and Horang2. Maybe what you mean is that Bisu slumping seems to be only slightly better than most other protosses playing normally.Nope, but when Bisu was on his peak, his PvP record was much better than Kal, Horang2 and Shuttle.But mostly when a protoss player is hot or not, his PvPs act in the same way. Unlike ZvZ and TvT. | ||
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
Btw I'm really curious to see a comparison of Savior's ELOs when he was at his peak and during his slump | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Yes, Bisu is slumping and even most fanboys will admit that - his undefeatable PvP which was like 6 months ago is gone - and PvT never was his biggest strenght except winning Flash a few times due to being able to spot the holes in his play. But your comparison doesn't make any sense at all since Bisu has the 3rd highest elo peak ever - guess what, he was even down to less than 2100 pts - means despite not being a Top10 player right now he's by no means a bad player. Also you call ForGG hotter since he is closer to his - way worse - ELO peak than Bisu, but Bisu having a higher current elo. Yes, ForGG >>>> Bisu. Less > more. Same with "soulkey" etc etc, yes they're up and comers but in YOUR book someone with 2050 elo high and 2050 elo current would be the "hottest player in the world right now" even if he only 3-0'ed Frozen to do so... | ||
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drlame
Sweden574 Posts
On August 19 2010 22:29 iNfeRnaL wrote: Tell me ANY player that does play better PvZ than Kim Taek Yong right now. Yes, Bisu is slumping and even most fanboys will admit that - his undefeatable PvP which was like 6 months ago is gone - and PvT never was his biggest strenght except winning Flash a few times due to being able to spot the holes in his play. But your comparison doesn't make any sense at all since Bisu has the 3rd highest elo peak ever - guess what, he was even down to less than 2100 pts - means despite not being a Top10 player right now he's by no means a bad player. Also you call ForGG hotter since he is closer to his - way worse - ELO peak than Bisu, but Bisu having a higher current elo. Yes, ForGG >>>> Bisu. Less > more. Same with "soulkey" etc etc, yes they're up and comers but in YOUR book someone with 2050 elo high and 2050 elo current would be the "hottest player in the world right now" even if he only 3-0'ed Frozen to do so... Those are exactly my thoughts, Bisu's peak is higher than Jaedong's, and how many players can consistently play at a higher level than Jaedong? One. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On August 19 2010 15:53 Roffles wrote: Yet another reason why Bisu has fallen from his mantle as the King Acorn. I pointed this out months ago, but no one would believe me. The truth does hurt, doesn't it? Long gone. Cya Kim Taek Yong. I had the same feeling. Was hoping he was back after his vacation but nope... He's done. | ||
disciple
9070 Posts
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trevabob
United Kingdom350 Posts
Given it's actually about performance... fair enough :p | ||
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Ocular
Canada141 Posts
What has Bisu done to you? Cause your whining about him like he stole your favourite teddy bear. Instead of bitching about a toss who forever changed the gameplay of sc you should go cry more about how you have no friends and reasons like this are more then likely the reason for which. Lol I'm only playing. But on a serious note no matter how hard he's slumping or whether he's back or not he was still a toss innovator and inspiration and people only remember players in their peak regardless. And bisu's peak was quite noteworthy. | ||
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 19 2010 15:53 Roffles wrote: Yet another reason why Bisu has fallen from his mantle as the King Acorn. I pointed this out months ago, but no one would believe me. The truth does hurt, doesn't it? Only if you're a Bisu fanboy. Me, I'm just happy BeSt is on the rise again :D | ||
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On August 20 2010 01:18 prototype. wrote: It's not bisu... it's the horrible maps For Bisu haha. Even some of the Protoss favored maps, like Match Point, Bisu doesn't do very well on. They just don't work for Bisu's style. They'll need super harass friendly maps like Destination and Medusa again for Bisu lol.. | ||
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night terrors
China1284 Posts
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